wonder if Gruden lasts the year
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They must have quit on him. Fields throws for 111 yards and the Raiders can’t win that game. That must have been one exciting and entertaining game to watch.
Yeah. Some attorneys will be getting rich over the resolution of his $100 million contract buyout…
Right? If Vegas wants him out they have every excuse to walk away now.
while I hate the comments, I also think that ruining careers over statements in the past is beyond brutal. What happened to being allowed to learn from our missteps?
Ten years ago Gruden was living in a time where men were men and people spoke their minds without concern for feelings. Unfortunately today the pussies are in charge and the only celebrity whose emails haven't been obtainable is Hillary. I'm betting if tou dig deep enough you'd find questionable comments in Smith's emails from the same time frame but that doesn't count. Gruden will likely be canceled.
Just saw the breaking news. Cancellation culture wins. Gruden is out. Ugh! I don’t care for Jon, but dig up dirt and he’ll most of us would be fired. Shit has to stop.
Eh, the De Smith lips comment was bad.
Now the Goodell and Biden blasts, those I can understand…
Those comments were completely inappropriate and lots of coaches and GMs have lost jobs for less (Hawks GM Danny Ferry for one). They create a hostile work environment that undermines trust. It's bad management, and especially bad because he was unwise enough to type those comments in emails that could easily be shared.
If we went back ten years, would you have a job?
I didn’t read or hear his comments till after the game. Someone going after Jon and reaching back 10 yrs. That’s a hit job and someone wanted revenge.
How do you know it wasn't? Apologies only are accepted in this country anymore based on your Party affiliation!!!!
lol all of a sudden , what someone said 10 years ago is bad, never seen such BS, lets go back in everyone's history that we don't like and find something to get them fired, no one would be working. What a bunch of wimps and crybaby's.
I get that point in general and am against cancel culture or fabricated character assassination. But these comments were in written form, made while he was a working adult, and over a 7 year span. This was a display of poor judgment and character over a large span of his adult life. His organization has a right to expect more of their coach.
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I guess its better not to comment, and especially don't put it in writing, when you are in a position like his. But going back 10 years is fishing for something, I wonder who was going back over his emails? Going back that far would take a long time, unless someone suddenly recalled reading it and let everyone know.
They came across them during the investigation into the Washington Football Team.
I hate cancel culture as much as the next guy but it's not "cancel culture" and an affront to humanity every time someone gets fired or forced to resign. Gruden has still made tens of millions of dollars. He will be fine. There's really no getting around the DeMaurice Smith and Michael Sam comments. Especially with Carl Nassib the first openly gay active player on his team. How do you look that dude in the eye after so many hateful comments, even if they were 10 years ago? You think he has changed that much? As someone said, the emails were discovered during an investigation, though I suspect they were only leaked because he blasted Goodell. Can't disrespect the almighty Rog like that and expect to get away with it.
I know folks who witnessed Gruden’s behavior during the Combine downtown during his Tampa days… and well I’m not surprised to hear that he’s a huge phony.
Maybe we should just ask "What would Lombardi do?"
Because Vince Lombardi, the patron saint of liberal beta cuck cancel culture communists that he is known to be, would've fired Gruden on the spot.
I'm all for understanding that we all make mistakes and that people grow. But that was a 48 yr. old man in a corporate professional environment. If he hadn't grown after 20 years in NFL coaching & media, then it's not a high likelihood he ever would.
Because Vince Lombardi, the patron saint of liberal beta cuck cancel culture communists that he is known to be, would've fired Gruden on the spot.
I'm all for understanding that we all make mistakes and that people grow. But that was a 48 yr. old man in a corporate professional environment. If he hadn't grown after 20 years in NFL coaching & media, then it's not a high likelihood he ever would.
The pussification of America continues.
It's utterly reGoddamndiculous that someone would lose their job over something they said in private emails 10 years ago. It's not like Gruden said these things during a press conference. The whole environment of cancel culture and wokeness has gotten to the point anything you said or did, at anytime in your life, can now be viewed as something that can impact your professional career now.
How many of us didn't play the tackle football fumble game "smear the queer" growing up? is someone going to bring that up someday?
It's utterly reGoddamndiculous that someone would lose their job over something they said in private emails 10 years ago. It's not like Gruden said these things during a press conference. The whole environment of cancel culture and wokeness has gotten to the point anything you said or did, at anytime in your life, can now be viewed as something that can impact your professional career now.
How many of us didn't play the tackle football fumble game "smear the queer" growing up? is someone going to bring that up someday?
Man you all are a trip. You can really read those emails and say it's fine and there should be no consequences because he didn't say it out loud today in a press conference? He typed that garbage in 2011 as a grown ass man for god's sake. This wasn't 1960 and he wasn't a kid. He's an asshole and got exposed. Deal with it.
The best are the comments about how no one would have a job anymore if we all had our emails from 10 years ago released. LOL what in the f&*k are you guys talking about? Pretty sure most of us would be safe. I have never sent or received an email in my life remotely close to this.
When you see this story and instantly are upset that the man was held accountable, you are sending a pretty strong message about yourself.
The best are the comments about how no one would have a job anymore if we all had our emails from 10 years ago released. LOL what in the f&*k are you guys talking about? Pretty sure most of us would be safe. I have never sent or received an email in my life remotely close to this.
When you see this story and instantly are upset that the man was held accountable, you are sending a pretty strong message about yourself.
It's kind of like, "Tell me what's in your regular vocabulary without telling me what's in your regular vocabulary."
There are plenty of battles worth fighting in the cancel culture wars. This isn't one of them.
I guess you didn't like my comment lol, and yes we say things to other people whether joking or letting some steam out on emails that we figure no one else will see, maybe you don't but a lot of others do
True, he would have been much better off had he just blurted out his racist comments, like the Big Guy does.
If you send emails like this at work then you deserve to be fired and I hope you are.
The point isn't what was sent in an email. The point is that anything anyone said/did 10-15-20 years ago, (hell, how far back you want to go?), because of the woke/PC/hurt my feelings/cancel culture crowd, can now be used against you.
I've never sent anything in an email like that before, but, as Donald Trump learned on the bus, having a private conversation, where is the line drawn?
People need to sit down, watch Blazing Saddles, followed by The Bad News Bears, and quit being so damn sensitive and easily offended.
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