Why are American liberals opposed to voter ID
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Please continue to keep discussion as civil as possible and refrain from attacking posts and name calling. Thank you.
I'm in favor of online voting as well. And although we trust all our personal finances and money to be managed online (although that's been proven to be susceptible to fraud also), it would require bipartisan support over the security and tech.
I'm not for making voting 'easier'. Voting is a privelege that needs to be taken seriously, not a matter of convenience.
The implication is that some of these enhanced integrity measures impact minorites in urban areas. But, do they also impact people in rural areas (the Mts of WVA or PA?)
My opinion has been and will continue to be, that if voting is important, then people will find a way to do so, within the law, where they're allowed to do so. Even if that requires them to exert a little extra effort once every 4 damn years.
and where has our Country gone in 19 months? down the shitter.....oh thats right
its PUTINS FAULT. Cant wait for the November massacre. You libbies are prolly already planning RIOTS. A revolution is looming.
If the only people who could vote absentee are military and those over seas or not physically in the US (all others need to show up physically to vote at a polling site, where they're required to show ID, checked electronically), would you be OK with that?
I think that would pretty much eliminate the possibility of any widespread fraud and would make everyone happy.
Sure, you might have to wait in line once every 4 years....tough cookies.
So voting should or not be convenient? Because you just agreed that you would like online voting, which would make voting more uh, convenient.
We're going to continue to disagree here, which is fine. I agree with you that voting is a privilege, but it's also our duty as citizens. There shouldn't be hurdles and roadblocks to casting a vote. What you consider to be no big deal to show up and cast a vote can be a very big deal to others. I mean hell, it should be a national holiday or over a weekend. Just because you can show up on a Tuesday doesn't mean everyone else can.
Counterpoint: if it works for the military and we already HAVE STATES THAT HAVE MAIL-IN VOTING WITH NO WIDESPREAD FRAUD, then what's the big deal?
In what world is that not true? Hillary is literally on video saying she thinks she won the election.
You are just a hypocrite when it comes to calling out Republicans while ignoring Democrats doing the same thing, "my man".
I would imagine that mailing in from the Military is not even remotely the same as mailing in from a civilian spot and someone from the military would need to confirm. If true, then you're comparing apples to oranges.
Odd. She conceded the next day and didn't start an insurrection. But yeah, your comparison totally tracks otherwise. 🙄
Ah so you can't refute what I proposed so this is all you have as a response. Tells me all I need to know and how out of touch you are.
It's mail-in voting. What's your point? Again, if you have evidence of widespread election fraud via mail-in voting, then present it. If you don't, then there's no need to engage you any further on this.
It has been and I've brought it up already a few times in this thread you're just ignoring it. Others have even brought it to your attention so scroll though and find it all. It's BEEN there all day.
I mean ACTUAL voter fraud. Not your conspiracy-theory-fed examples.
Which again, I linked to. At this point I have little doubt that God himself could come down and point to it and you would still deny it.
Feel free to link it again then. I just scrolled through all three and a half pages of this thread and no one, including yourself, has linked to anything that proves there's widespread voter fraud. The onus is on you here.
You don’t think drop boxes now determined to be illegal makes easier to cheat?
Wisconsin Supreme Court prohibits use of most ballot drop boxes
The ruling deals a blow to Democrats ahead of crucial contests in a battleground state.
amp.cnn.com
No. Because there's been no proven cases of widespread voter fraud via drop boxes.You don’t think drop boxes now determined to be illegal makes easier to cheat?
Wisconsin Supreme Court prohibits use of most ballot drop boxes
The ruling deals a blow to Democrats ahead of crucial contests in a battleground state.
It's more than naive to think not everyone can get an ID. It's racist and insulting to think a certain group of people is incapable of figuring out how to get one. I also get sick and tired of the leftist narrative talking points that not everyone can get an ID. They think they're being compassionate and mindful of others, but it's just an insult.
Well then I hope Republicans figure out to ballot harvest and stuff these drop boxes
Surprised Dems didn’t include Voter ID’s as part of their relief package. It would cost peanuts
Well yes, BSIT, if in your land of make-believe according to Dinesh D'Souza, then you better get to it.
None of this is going to matter. Democrats are going to get their arses kicked regardless. You’re wasting your time blabbering about this.
Voting should be convenient. And I agree that it should be on a non-working day. Everyone should have the opportunity to get there without work getting in the way. However, I had as busy of a working schedule as anyone else, and it never got in the way of me voting. I specifically looked into early voting in Indiana, and it's about as easy as it gets. Personally, I think every state should have the same voting laws.
I’m not defending anything vigorously like you. I should have said you defending the very above board election in 2020 won’t matter. That’s my mistake. Atta boy on getting those atta boys from your crew on here.
Never saw the mule movie and don’t follow DD but carry on
If you’re a Democrat and you don’t agree with somebody, you have a list of preoptions to reply with.
- DD
- Tucker Carlson
- Fox News
- Donald Trump
- Russia
- Putin
- January 6th
- labeling that other person something that ends in “ist”
Add what you’d like.
I did early voting in October for the 2020 presidential election, and we stood in line for a couple of hours in cold and spitting rain. However, for the primaries that same year, I did mail-in voting (which was offered because of the pandemic). Granted, I picked a crappy day to go and stand in line that day in October, but it's how my schedule worked out.
I just find it odd that Indiana was able to make mail-in voting work just fine in one scenario, with no instances of voter fraud, but couldn't for another.
I would be fine with national, standardized voting laws, but then we get to the notion of state rights vs national rights etc and we could start another thread on that LOL
Okay, so you just live in the land of make-believe. Thanks for clarifying.
I'm actually having a discussion with some folks on here. You decided to insert yourself to do nothing but troll. I'm not searching for likes (odd take given you go around liking every single one of your buddies' posts, but again, the projection is always an admission). Just log in with your other user name and respond to yourself and carry on with your Friday afternoon.
You’re actually having a discussion? Coulda fooled me. It’s good you’re not threatening people after your hiatus from here. And what am I projecting exactly? I don’t have another username but thanks. You’ve got a busy night ahead of you. Republicans are waiting for you to go after them with all of your issues.
