Agreed we don’t know how much work he has put in. Hunter was one of the most prolific scorers in Indiana high school basketball history. His expectations were pretty high when he committed to Purdue. It’s certainly hard to understand why he can’t score or handle the ball when pressed as a senior.
They clogged the lane when Jaden had the ball trying to prevent him from getting to the rim. Could you imagine the score had Purdue went to Zach early in the game? He was 10/17 and 10 rebounds. He and Trevion who was somewhat MIA shot 50% from the line...THAT has to improve. Zach 4/8 and Trevion 2/4 and how many were front ends? Anyone on the team match those (Zach's) numbers or come close? Purdue got off to a bad start with hurried shots and not looking inside enough...and of course it wasn't Trevions finest game. When the offense stalls it is usually due to players not doing the little things concerning screens and timing, but even with the poorer offense...everyone can defend which didn't happen IMO
I "wonder" if he is just trying to be that coach on the floor and forgetting to play. No question he IS capable of more and I hope he figures it out soon...
Ya know, I think had Purdue had good effort in feeding the post with focus and scoring early it would have helped with the 3 ball and the two together would open up some driving lanes. With all the warts most think Purdue is talented enough to go far in the tourney, but they must understand they are marked and be ready to play with focus on both ends from the start. Not allowed to trade players and so they have to do what they can...which if the do will beat enough teams this team will be remembered.
like the comments on Jaden and Brandon...and especially like the comments on defending Davis. Much of that I discussed here and this video at .03 shows the defensive lapse of Ethan...who no way more at fault than any other name on the team. Not only is he down too low, but he has no idea where Davis is as Davis is walking up the arc holding his hands up to say...nobody is defending me.
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I'll agree we don't know the work he's put in. It just appears he hasn't. And not sure talking about his lack of production would constitute him being a "whipping boy".
Agree about Pissconsin. ****ing hate that school too.On the positive side, if we're going to have a slump, I guess now is better than March. Much like a few years ago, this team could still be very dangerous in the tournament because it has a guard capable of exploding (Ivey, like Edwards before him). There's still a long way to go, but we're kind of behind the eight ball now in the Big Ten with a home loss to Wisconsin and a loss to Rutgers.
Also I #$%!ing hate Wisconsin. We owe them some serious retribution for all the bad memories over the years.
Nope but we shall see. I am happy to be wrong. Hopefully we don't draw N. Texas again or a team with an athletic shooting guard like Nichols.
Clearly you aren't watching the games or you would know we beat them. You've been outed, go back to peegs.
The point is they scored 90 points. WI is not an elite offense by any means and had they been halfway capable shooting 3s they would have scored 90. Have watched games since the 1960s which is why I laugh when folks began to call this one of the best Purdue teams ever. Before Keady and Painter we actually did make it to a couple of FFs. I think you have been outed. When you don't have a decent argument just resort to name calling. I don't question anyone's loyalty to Purdue. It is not a program for bandwagon fans.
Crap, those are very good points..... but... When do we ever apply the kind of pressure that would show that? in practice? Or games? If we don't play that way, we probably don't practice that way. And it's often quickness, length and athleticism that makes pressure work. If you don't have it, how do you practice against it? What works against avg speed/length guys in practice doesn't fly against burners and freakish athletes.
I agree. I suspect Hunter will have at least a few 'moments' this year where he saves our asses. No one wants to win more than the guys on the team busting their asses in practice everyday.
Add in Ivey missing 10 minutes of the first half, 2 pick six turnovers, Sasha being off, meh FT shooting, and some “disconnectedness” on defense, and you have a loss.
Bottom line is Ivey needs to play 35 minutes like any other lottery pick and Williams and Edey need to play as much as they can, People like to call this the deepest Purdue team ever but there really is a big drop-off after these three guys. Sasha is good when he's on but the rest of the guys are just role players and aren't any better (some even worse) than other B10 teams 4 through 8 guys.
In three B10 games he's made one basket and has 7 rebounds and has no assist in 35 minutes. In the last 6 games he's scored a total of 10 points and has 16 rebounds, 2 assist and 6 turnovers. From all indications he's lost his starting role to Gillis whose totally outplayed him as of late.
Newmans minutes are dropping because he's getting lost on D and taking bad shots.
Yes! Once the player gets on the court it is on them to do what is asked and capable or not, they are the ones responsible, not Painter. They need to make the shots, put in the effort, get the 50/50 balls and play with some determination.
Covid only impacted his minutes in the last. Don't know when the foot injury occurred but he played over 0 minutes in 3 of those six games,
Flagging for false information because you forgot games can go to overtime!!!
He's also being extremely careless with the ball. I think it was the NC State game, where he was in the weave and literally handed the ball to the defender for a wide open dunk.
While true in part, not entirely...in fact, crazy (if not craziest) of all things, he subbed twice simply for defense the other night to guard Davis while Ivey was in foul trouble.
It might be true to an extent with respect to carelessness with the ball, but, he pales in comparison in that regard to Hunter (who has played 4 years), and, there are others that are as careless or more as well.
Which B1G teams have guys at 5-8 that in your mind are better than Purdue's options (keeping in mind that Edey or Williams is essentially "6" for Purdue, and, Furst or Gillis in turn is "7")?
First of all I said other teams 4 through 8. Secondly I said Purdue's three best players Williams, Edey and Ivey need to be on the court as much as possible. I also said Sasha needs minutes. I'm not going through team by team and look at stats to see whose getting what from their 4-8 guys but I would assume a lot of teams are getting production from their 4 through 8 guys equal to these numbers from Purdue's 5-10 guys (B10 stats)
I"ve WATCHED Matt giving him grief as he's getting benched for HUNTING SHOTS, so not sure where you are getting your ideas.
Your assertion, at least as I took it, was that Purdue's depth was overrated...and, if so...we don't agree on that point...in Purdue's own case, or, relative to other teams in the conference...and, while you did include Edey and Williams as two of the best 3 players (accurately), only one of the 2 is on the floor at a time, so, one is not in the top 5...and, either is better than just about any other team's 6th guy as such.
I am not trying to literally compare anyone, but, if the problem is allegedly handling the ball or hunting shots, I am simply pointing out that there is a double standard is all...to some extent, that makes sense, but, certainly not entirely.
I do not think Matt wants to shorten the rotation. I believe he thinks the rotation is capable of producing wins with the full rotation. I think he believes the difference between winning and losing with a long rotation is on the defensive side of the ball and probably considers "focus", "connected", and "playing hard" something they all can do...and do well enough to win and probably thinks the less minutes each player has the more likely that opportunity on D.
I agree that Morton should look to score more, especially because he's shooting 50%+ from 3 this season. He is, in my eyes top 3 on the team in passing ability. He's got the second highest assists per 40 rate on the team and the second lowest turnovers per 40 (only behind Gillis by .1). And he's only 1 total assist behind Ivey, despite playing 100 fewer minutes
