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So....about those 3s....

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Now that the dust has settled, what are your feelings about shooting all of those 3s (including Swanigan's 6 attempts)?

Swanigan obviously helped his case because he managed to hit a few, but it also takes our best interior player and puts him out on the perimeter (and as you can see below, shooting lots of 3s is usually less efficient).

This could change as we go from facing smaller lineups to facing MSU/Kansas - as both teams have some size inside and Kansas' interior player can definitely be susceptible to fouls inside - something we need to take advantage of, and presumably Haas would be able to play more.

Overall, I think we shot too many 3s in the first half as a team - 15 attempts. We shot them at a good clip in the first half (40%), but the efficiency per possession was much less (1.2 points per possession on 3s vs. 1.46 points per possession on 2s). I think there were a few rushed threes - Swanigan, Carsen and someone else had one right after an offensive rebounds - that if you take out, I think we would have been at the sweet spot.
 
Now that the dust has settled, what are your feelings about shooting all of those 3s (including Swanigan's 6 attempts)?

Swanigan obviously helped his case because he managed to hit a few, but it also takes our best interior player and puts him out on the perimeter (and as you can see below, shooting lots of 3s is usually less efficient).

This could change as we go from facing smaller lineups to facing MSU/Kansas - as both teams have some size inside and Kansas' interior player can definitely be susceptible to fouls inside - something we need to take advantage of, and presumably Haas would be able to play more.

Overall, I think we shot too many 3s in the first half as a team - 15 attempts. We shot them at a good clip in the first half (40%), but the efficiency per possession was much less (1.2 points per possession on 3s vs. 1.46 points per possession on 2s). I think there were a few rushed threes - Swanigan, Carsen and someone else had one right after an offensive rebounds - that if you take out, I think we would have been at the sweet spot.
there were only a few bad ones. 40 percent from 3 is perfect and it opens up the high low passing. the ones where we dont pass and probe first are the only ones that bother me.
 
Now that the dust has settled, what are your feelings about shooting all of those 3s (including Swanigan's 6 attempts)?

Swanigan obviously helped his case because he managed to hit a few, but it also takes our best interior player and puts him out on the perimeter (and as you can see below, shooting lots of 3s is usually less efficient).

This could change as we go from facing smaller lineups to facing MSU/Kansas - as both teams have some size inside and Kansas' interior player can definitely be susceptible to fouls inside - something we need to take advantage of, and presumably Haas would be able to play more.

Overall, I think we shot too many 3s in the first half as a team - 15 attempts. We shot them at a good clip in the first half (40%), but the efficiency per possession was much less (1.2 points per possession on 3s vs. 1.46 points per possession on 2s). I think there were a few rushed threes - Swanigan, Carsen and someone else had one right after an offensive rebounds - that if you take out, I think we would have been at the sweet spot.
We'd be a far better team is we stopped shooting 3s.
 
That seems counterintuitive to me. Wouldn't we want Biggie in the paint more against a smaller team since there's presumably less they can do to stop him. And wouldn't we want him shooting more against a bigger team because it opens up the paint and draws a potential shot blocker away from the basket?
 
One thing I like about this year's team is they are not hesitant or afraid to shoot. I have always felt Purdue teams in the past shot poorly because they were hesitant and afraid of being taken out if the took a single bad shot. It's true we take some bad shots, but this is the most confident shooting Purdue team I have seen. I don't want that to change. In today's game, you have to make some threes.
 
One thing I like about this year's team is they are not hesitant or afraid to shoot. I have always felt Purdue teams in the past shot poorly because they were hesitant and afraid of being taken out if the took a single bad shot. It's true we take some bad shots, but this is the most confident shooting Purdue team I have seen. I don't want that to change. In today's game, you have to make some threes.
Fake the three, then when the defender is in the air, dribble in for the 12-15 footer.
 
Now that the dust has settled, what are your feelings about shooting all of those 3s (including Swanigan's 6 attempts)?

Swanigan obviously helped his case because he managed to hit a few, but it also takes our best interior player and puts him out on the perimeter (and as you can see below, shooting lots of 3s is usually less efficient).

This could change as we go from facing smaller lineups to facing MSU/Kansas - as both teams have some size inside and Kansas' interior player can definitely be susceptible to fouls inside - something we need to take advantage of, and presumably Haas would be able to play more.

Overall, I think we shot too many 3s in the first half as a team - 15 attempts. We shot them at a good clip in the first half (40%), but the efficiency per possession was much less (1.2 points per possession on 3s vs. 1.46 points per possession on 2s). I think there were a few rushed threes - Swanigan, Carsen and someone else had one right after an offensive rebounds - that if you take out, I think we would have been at the sweet spot.

Painter has openly said he does not coach his offense to specifically do anything in particular most times going in to a game...rather he says to take what the defense gives you. This is probably why Painter coached teams have been so potent when they have a number of seniors on the floor at once. The seniors are able to read much better what the defense is giving them...hence why they took 15 threes in the first half.
 
Now that the dust has settled, what are your feelings about shooting all of those 3s (including Swanigan's 6 attempts)?

Swanigan obviously helped his case because he managed to hit a few, but it also takes our best interior player and puts him out on the perimeter (and as you can see below, shooting lots of 3s is usually less efficient).

This could change as we go from facing smaller lineups to facing MSU/Kansas - as both teams have some size inside and Kansas' interior player can definitely be susceptible to fouls inside - something we need to take advantage of, and presumably Haas would be able to play more.

Overall, I think we shot too many 3s in the first half as a team - 15 attempts. We shot them at a good clip in the first half (40%), but the efficiency per possession was much less (1.2 points per possession on 3s vs. 1.46 points per possession on 2s). I think there were a few rushed threes - Swanigan, Carsen and someone else had one right after an offensive rebounds - that if you take out, I think we would have been at the sweet spot.

Great! I like our offense working backward. I'd much rather see us loosen the inside up by knocking down some jumpers. I personally don't like trying to force it inside first. We have to many turnovers when we do that. Not sure of our TO total, but it didn't seem to be a factor.
 
Neither MSU or Kansas are big. Pretty much both teams weakness is lack of size inside. I personally love it when Purdue comes out firing threes. Beats the hell out of the front court turnovers.
 
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I have no interest in searching for the supporting data, I just know that whenever a team (VCU comes to mind) makes an upset run, it is always because they hit their 3s. We won by 4 - that means if two of those threes were twos, it would have been a single-possession game. Sure, the end would not have been played the same, so who knows, but we are somewhere among the top 3-point shooting teams in the nation ... dance with the partner that brought you.
 
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