Question to ponder about recruiting in the NIL era......

[DrEss]

From afar, this transfer portal thing is crazy.

1. You have the guys who didn't get playing time transferring laterally or down for a better fit.

2. You have the low/mid majors wanting to move up a level.

3. You have the guys leaving due to coaching change.

4. Still have the last of the extra Covid Year guys lingering around.

5. You have guys leaving perfectly good situations looking for money. Not education. Not winning. Just money.

I'm OK with options 1-3. The covid year thing is getting really old, but whatever.

Number 5 is what might kill college basketball as we know it. It will turn into NFL free agency without a salary cap, contracts, or consequences for tampering. Professional sports without regulation. I'm not against college athletes making money, but there needs to be guard rails.

Purdue can try to swim against the current, but it's only a matter of time before someone we all love like Edey's phone rings with an offer none of us could refuse and they're out the door. It's happening at other schools, and we're naive to think it won't happen here either. When this becomes the norm, I think a large number of fans will lose interest, resulting in a loss of revenue for the sport, and maybe something will finally be done to fix the problem.

Not to worry. As stated by a poster in another thread, now that the no wrong doing Duke is being impacted by # 5, a change to the current process will come. Their former HC Nasally Voice, will see to that.

 

[Tommaker]

The argument jumped from “a kid should get part of the profits for their jersey being sold” to “so and so transfer guy should get $1M to play at whatever school that can afford it” very quickly.

This stuff and all the legalized gambling apps money may be the beginning of the end of true college sports, at least basketball and football.

Notice how many collegiate "events" are taking place in Vegas? Nothing to see here, folks.

 

[BoilerMaker P]

Notice how many collegiate "events" are taking place in Vegas? Nothing to see here, folks.

Just a matter of time before somebody involved in NCAA sports (player, coach, referee) goes full Jontay Porter.

 

[purduedavie]

It’s a new day Johnell Davis is holding out for 3 figures and Michigan is not coming up to his numbers right now.how big is your pocket

In Davis case I don’t blame him for wanting to get his, he likely isn’t a NBA player, got 1 last year to try to make bank. That’s the system, he’ll end up at Michigan.

 

[purduedavie]

This is an interesting question. Saw an analyst mention something similar and wondering of burnout of collectives and donors. What happens when a collective looks back in 2-3 years and asks why they spent 200-500k on a kid who put up 6pts and 3 rebounds a game. What happens when the same folks ask why they shelled out $1M or more for a roster to either miss the tourney or not make it out of the first weekend.

Personally, I think a lot of high school kids outside the top 50, will end up at places who don’t live and die with the portal. The recruitment of those kids in the 50-200 range will be more open because coaches are using NIL + portal as free agency. They see higher upside to quickly build a roster and potentially win with experienced players v player development.

Another thought for mid majors who experience high roster churn because of NIL + portal, why not become the Kentucky of the mid majors? Why not position yourself for great skill development and showcase the schools your kids left to go to? I mean Kentucky and Duke are the 5* one and dons factory. Why not be the 1-3 year development school to get a major NIL deal? Honestly, if I am a mid major, I am recruiting and signing 5-7 kids a year because I know my roster is going to get gutted.

I think this stuff levels off in another year when COVID kids are all done. They have added a weird element to the mix which is almost done. Perhaps we see some leveling off in the coming year.

Good post, guys like Davis, Gillis, want a nice payday before they get into the real world, I don’t blame them.

 

[ChoiceBeef]

Just a matter of time before somebody involved in NCAA sports (player, coach, referee) goes full Jontay Porter.

Happened with Iowa State football

DCI agent in Iowa student-athlete gambling investigation accused of 'warrantless' searches

An attorney representing several players charged in Iowa student-athlete gambling probe says agent testimony shows unapproved searches without warrant

www.desmoinesregister.com

 

[Namazo]

This is an interesting question. Saw an analyst mention something similar and wondering of burnout of collectives and donors. What happens when a collective looks back in 2-3 years and asks why they spent 200-500k on a kid who put up 6pts and 3 rebounds a game. What happens when the same folks ask why they shelled out $1M or more for a roster to either miss the tourney or not make it out of the first weekend.

Personally, I think a lot of high school kids outside the top 50, will end up at places who don’t live and die with the portal. The recruitment of those kids in the 50-200 range will be more open because coaches are using NIL + portal as free agency. They see higher upside to quickly build a roster and potentially win with experienced players v player development.

Another thought for mid majors who experience high roster churn because of NIL + portal, why not become the Kentucky of the mid majors? Why not position yourself for great skill development and showcase the schools your kids left to go to? I mean Kentucky and Duke are the 5* one and dons factory. Why not be the 1-3 year development school to get a major NIL deal? Honestly, if I am a mid major, I am recruiting and signing 5-7 kids a year because I know my roster is going to get gutted. Starting out in bodybuilding can be challenging, but choosing the right gear is crucial for achieving results. Key gear in bodybuilding https://misterolympia.shop/gear-in-bodybuilding/ components include diet, workouts, and proper supplements. This may include protein powders, creatine, and vitamins that aid in muscle recovery and growth. It's important to note that using anabolic steroids requires consultation with a medical professional.

I think this stuff levels off in another year when COVID kids are all done. They have added a weird element to the mix which is almost done. Perhaps we see some leveling off in the coming year.

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[BoilerAndy]

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This is an interesting question. Saw an analyst mention something similar and wondering of burnout of collectives and donors. What happens when a collective looks back in 2-3 years and asks why they spent 200-500k on a kid who put up 6pts and 3 rebounds a game. What happens when the same folks ask why they shelled out $1M or more for a roster to either miss the tourney or not make it out of the first weekend.

Personally, I think a lot of high school kids outside the top 50, will end up at places who don’t live and die with the portal. The recruitment of those kids in the 50-200 range will be more open because coaches are using NIL + portal as free agency. They see higher upside to quickly build a roster and potentially win with experienced players v player development.

Another thought for mid majors who experience high roster churn because of NIL + portal, why not become the Kentucky of the mid majors? Why not position yourself for great skill development and showcase the schools your kids left to go to? I mean Kentucky and Duke are the 5* one and dons factory. Why not be the 1-3 year development school to get a major NIL deal? Honestly, if I am a mid major, I am recruiting and signing 5-7 kids a year because I know my roster is going to get gutted.

I think this stuff levels off in another year when COVID kids are all done. They have added a weird element to the mix which is almost done. Perhaps we see some leveling off in the coming year.

This. Wealthy people don't accumulate $$ by investing poorly.

But like the stock market, If you invest in 3 players and one of them is a big winner, you probably got your money's worth. Will the less-than-wealthy alumni donors to collectives see this as a good use of money if only 1 in 3 is a winner?

 

[ChoiceBeef]

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This. Wealthy people don't accumulate $$ by investing poorly.

But like the stock market, If you invest in 3 players and one of them is a big winner, you probably got your money's worth. Will the less-than-wealthy alumni donors to collectives see this as a good use of money if only 1 in 3 is a winner?

True but sometimes new money loves gambling and it is a chest beating exercise to show off….thinking of the fraud who funded Miami.

I feel like I saw an article that Illinois maxed out their basketball budget this year for NIL. Will fans be excited or happy if that team doesn’t make a deep tourney run? Will be fun watching.

 

[Hausta01]

True but sometimes new money loves gambling and it is a chest beating exercise to show off….thinking of the fraud who funded Miami.

I feel like I saw an article that Illinois maxed out their basketball budget this year for NIL. Will fans be excited or happy if that team doesn’t make a deep tourney run? Will be fun watching.

When they are only ok or good because they can't replace two of the 6 or 7 best players in the B1G, they won't be happy.

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

When they are only ok or good because they can't replace two of the 6 or 7 best players in the B1G, they won't be happy.

According to them they are being slept on and will be equally as good as last year!

 

[ChoiceBeef]

According to them they are being slept on and will be equally as good as last year!

Braden put the Illini to bed last year in Champaign….speaking of being slept on

 

[DwaynePurvis00]

Braden put the Illini to bed last year in Champaign….speaking of being slept on

But beef! I am told he’s an edey merchant! That 3 he hit from deep from the north side of Chicago in the face of the guy who they’re hanging a jersey in the rafters for was only due to edey being out on the floor! Never mind the fact that smith pulled up before edey could even get to the FT line and TSJ never even saw edey.

 

[Purdue Grad in Texas]

Braden put the Illini to bed last year in Champaign….speaking of being slept on

Mr. Sandman......bring me a......

 

[Schmedly_Whiplash]

Good post, guys like Davis, Gillis, want a nice payday before they get into the real world, I don’t blame them.

I was clear from Matt talking about the transfers that he was very in line with seeing his guys get some money out of this situation as it presents itself now. And why wouldn't he?