Our seeding may get a boost...

[*4purdue*]

if we dominate NW on Sunday. Afternoon nationally televised game on CBS and a chance to make a statement to everyone watching.

 

[Boiler Buck]

if we dominate NW on Sunday. Afternoon nationally televised game on CBS and a chance to make a statement to everyone watching.

No, one of those games where we can only hurt our seeding by losing to a lower ranked team. If we beat NW, it will be looked at like we are supposed to beat a lower ranked NW......which indeed we should.

The B1G late season losses of Wisky, MSU, NW and MD of late have not helped the conference IMO....and seeding wise I expect the committee to abuse the B1G.

4 or 5 seed for Purdue.....4 if we win out. 5 if we fumble along the way. Could go to a 3 if other potential "3" seeds fumble there way into the tournament too. However, I believe besides Gonzaga, the top of the Pac 12, ACC & Big 12 is very strong and will be given a lot, if not all the 1-3 seeds.

 

[cprh9u]

Yep gotta make the best of every opportunity. At 20th in the RPI, which seems to heavily influence the selection committee, we are squarely a 5 seed (technically on the 5/6 line but no way we are a 6). Blowing the doors off of NW and rolling through the B1G tournament will be our best bet to avoid that dreaded 5 line and visions/nightmares of Arkansas Little Rock.

 

[cprh9u]

No, one of those games where we can only hurt our seeding by losing to a lower ranked team. If we beat NW, it will be looked at like we are supposed to beat a lower ranked NW......which indeed we should.

The B1G late season losses of Wisky, MSU, NW and MD of late have not helped the conference IMO....and seeding wise I expect the committee to abuse the B1G.

4 or 5 seed for Purdue.....4 if we win out. 5 if we fumble along the way. Could go to a 3 if other potential "3" seeds fumble there way into the tournament too. However, I believe besides Gonzaga, the top of the Pac 12, ACC & Big 12 is very strong and will be given a lot, if not all the 1-3 seeds.

This is spot on, but some can't see it. The B1G has been bad, and all credit to Purdue for taking advantage. Kind of like Chuck Pagano and the Colts winning the AFC South his first few years in Indy, except they got a home playoff game for winning a bad division. Unfortunately we don't get a 3 seed just for winning a bad conference.

Regardless, let's win out and let everything else take care of itself. If we convincingly go on a run and win our league title and tournament while beating a few decent teams (namely Minny who is ahead of us in the RPI) and others fall, we could land on the 3 line if other things happen like you say. Really big advantage if we can get on the 3 line vs. sticking around that 5 range.

 

[Abugabby]

...nationally televised game on CBS and a chance to make a statement to everyone watching.

I hate to be a downer but this is exactly the kind of situation where we shit our pants.

 

[Heller]

Yep gotta make the best of every opportunity. At 20th in the RPI, which seems to heavily influence the selection committee, we are squarely a 5 seed (technically on the 5/6 line but no way we are a 6). Blowing the doors off of NW and rolling through the B1G tournament will be our best bet to avoid that dreaded 5 line and visions/nightmares of Arkansas Little Rock.

The RPI and other computer generated sites are used primarily for the bubble teams and not seeding. I write this every year, every year when the seeding is done and the Chair explains seeding variances it is always how the Committee felt about a particular team. Computers don't take into account injuries and other factors that the Committee may use to factor seeding.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

The RPI and other computer generated sites are used primarily for the bubble teams and not seeding. I write this every year, every year when the seeding is done and the Chair explains seeding variances it is always how the Committee felt about a particular team. Computers don't take into account injuries and other factors that the Committee may use to factor seeding.

And I think you see that reflected in Purdue's rankings throughout the season. I think a lot of those in the know can see that Purdue SHOULD be a better team and has the talent to be higher ranked but have been simply waiting to see it. Just when Purdue seems to finally jumping in the polls, they have consistently shot themselves in the foot and the pollsters get cautious again. Had Purdue simply taken care of business against Iowa and Nebraska, the losses to UM and Minny could have been excused and Purdue would probably be a top 10 team right now and be in line for a potential 2 seed. The issue is that Purdue has given reason to many pollsters to be wary this season. Purdue could very easily get a 6 seed and make it to the FF....Purdue is a team that when the bracket gets released in just over a week that other programs will thank aren't in their bracket.

 

[Boiler Wolf]

I may be looking at conference play through Old Gold colored glasses, but I have seen some really bad basketball played by other teams in the BIG this year. Last night, in the Iowa-Wisconsin game, some of the shots players were taking were downright awful. The last couple of threes before the winning one by Iowa were total bricks. Wisconsin threw up some pretty lousy shots as well. It seems like the whole conference is in a shooting slump. Meanwhile, the Boilers have struggled a bit too, but still look a lot better on O than most conference teams I've watched lately.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

I may be looking at conference play through Old Gold colored glasses, but I have seen some really bad basketball played by other teams in the BIG this year. Last night, in the Iowa-Wisconsin game, some of the shots players were taking were downright awful. The last couple of threes before the winning one by Iowa were total bricks. Wisconsin threw up some pretty lousy shots as well. It seems like the whole conference is in a shooting slump. Meanwhile, the Boilers have struggled a bit too, but still look a lot better on O than most conference teams I've watched lately.

I think what confuses most people is that Whisky SHOULD be a much better team with Koenig, Happ, and Hayes...but they don't have a real solid supporting cast for those three, IMO. Those three are getting about 30-35 with Showalter getting 28. Outside of that, there are 2 players getting 14-20 of the minutes in Trice and Brown. I think Gard has done a bad job of maintaining minutes throughout the year and his players are getting tired. To compare to Purdue who also appears to have an 8 man rotation:

Vince: 28
Biggie: 32
Carsen: 24
Mathias: 31
PJT: 28
Haas: 20
Cline: 21
Spike: 12

Basil was getting about 12 minutes per game on average this season as well. I added him because he did play for most of this season.

CMP has spread his minutes out much more evenly than Gard has, IMO.

 

[*4purdue*]

I may be looking at conference play through Old Gold colored glasses, but I have seen some really bad basketball played by other teams in the BIG this year. Last night, in the Iowa-Wisconsin game, some of the shots players were taking were downright awful. The last couple of threes before the winning one by Iowa were total bricks. Wisconsin threw up some pretty lousy shots as well. It seems like the whole conference is in a shooting slump. Meanwhile, the Boilers have struggled a bit too, but still look a lot better on O than most conference teams I've watched lately.

your correct, but if you look at teams playing in the ACC, B12, etc... You'll see the same thing. Kansas was laying an egg against a really bad Oklahoma team the other night for about 35 minutes and was down 12 with 5 or 6 min. to go. They came out of it the last 5 and won, but it's happening everywhere.