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Karlaftis was going with our without Brohm. I expect Walter’s to exceed Brohm soon.
Should Brohm get credit for Kane or should Walter’s? He did have his best year under Walter’s. Didn’t think he was an NFL guy tbh. Shocked me. Brohm and walters each get a half a point.
Brohm also recruiting Jenkins and Yanni, but Walters actually utilized them in a way to give them a chance at the NFL. Is that Brohm or Walters?
But I bet you wouldn’t give Brohm credit for Bentley in the same ilk.
I get it. You’re in love with Walters. Why, we’ll never know.
Bentley was a stud before Brohm showed up? Holt put Bentley in a position to succeed. Had his best year under Holt. So did Brohm solely get him to the league? Or did Marcus Freeman build him to have that great final year?
You didn’t really answer my question. How come you never answer mine? Maybe you could learn why I like Walter’s more than Brohm if you actually tried to have a discussion. You consider that?
I should ask you since I haven’t asked yet. Why are you so insistent on Walter’s as a failure because of what he did in the first half of his first season in his first head coaching gig?
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Why would Nyland Green need to play against ISU? Oh, look after ISU, we have that tough game against BYE.
🤔. Maybe there’s a reason he is being held out.
Just to confirm @pboiler18, you do not want to actually discuss anything and understand my position?
You don’t have a position
Youve decided that anybody who was good here under Brohm would have come here anyways. (Like Dillon Thineman wouldn’t have come played for Brohm. lol).
You’ve decided that anybody who went to the league who was recruited by a different staff was only good because it was a different staff.
You’ve decided that Brohm recruits are only good now because somebody else is coaching them now and not because they are older, bigger, faster and stronger when they were as upper class men.
I understand your position. No need to debate anybody who thinks they are already right and twists a narrative any chance they get.
I’ve actually said none of that. Not have I twisted anything. Please show me where I said there above and where I have twisted.
That’s a big ask, so let’s just look at the first. Where did I say that? Where did I say theineman wouldn’t have come to play under Brohm? Hint: I didn’t. But I’ll let you show me.
There really isn’t an argument. It’s one person making claims. Claims using “statistics” that can’t be proven. Claims about coaches. And claims about me that are false. All i’m asking is money where the mouth is. And every time, I’m let down. Throwing words in my mouth though…. That’s just dumb.
Karlaftis doesn't count 18. He was coming to Purdue no matter who the coach was.........tic.
what's the big deal if someone likes the coach at Purdue , and thinks he will do better his 2nd year, especially after it being his first time as a head coach, with other things added in such as OL should be better. Is it that bad that someone likes someone that you don't? Lets see how the season goes.
Yeah, time for these two to agree to disagree and move on. Back to talking about the OL!
I’m fine disagreeing with him. Was just trying to understand and instead, made claims about things I never said. Is what it is….
OL is gonna be really good. Wasn’t great last year due to injuries, but the offensive staff did really well with what they had. Pass blocking needs to be better though. They have size and depth. Haven’t had that since???
Dense again. You
Literally gave everybody but Brohm credit for Bentley. Said Katlaftis would have come here no matter the coach and said Brohm had 1 guy drafted into the NFL on D where the board gave you 5 others.
Again, we get your agenda. Sad that people are buying it.
Walters is our coach. We are stuck for at least 16 more months with him. I hope he wins enough games between now and then that it’s entertaining and we do t have to fire him.
From what I’ve seen…not hopeful. Speaking of Hope…was not a fan of him but I’d take him over this coach.
Yes Walters is our coach. And Harrell is our OC. And Brohm is long gone.
Take a chill pill you two. Next Saturday we get to see what the team looks like when they get on the field.
No. I said karlaftis would have gone, Aka gone pro, regardless of who his coach was. Brohm did good to bring him in.
I assumed giving Holt credit for Bentley was giving Brohm credit since Brohm hired Holt. Sorry I didn’t specify Brohm specifically, even though he did little with the defense in year 1. He increased his role with the defense once he turned on Holt. But Holts issue was Hazell recruits catching up to him imo.
Maybe I should say this since you struggle to decipher.
I’m very thankful to Brohm for what he did in turning around Purdue football. He made it fun. He also quit in Purdue and left behind a lacking roster and a culture issue. Walter’s inherited more of a rebuild than the surface showed.
The lack of talent in places showed last year. Walter’s elevated guys and they really showed out. But there were tons of holes and injuries that hurt the team. As well as some coaching mistakes. Good news is, the staff showed that they could learn from those mistakes and we have a head coach that can recognize his mistakes and grow from them vs say he made no mistakes.
That’s my agenda. Pretty accurate really.
Agreed, it wasn't written anywhere. I was anticipating your next weak response.....
Wow! You were so right. Our Defense was stellar yesterday including our "All American" safety and our top 50 DB (oh wait he has not yet played with 1/6th of the season behind us). Walters scheme is PERFECT for the personnel we currently have on our roster.
Our OL and WR corps also shined yesterday. The separation that our WR's achieved was stellar and the OL run and pass blocking were vastly improved over last season.
What a great effort!
Thought the WR separation was pretty good actually. OL struggled with the blitz for sure. Luckily, we won’t see a better defense than ND….
Also thought the pass defense was good. The issue was Purdue got punched in the mouth in the trenches. Can’t win that way. We’ve seen that with every coach at Purdue over the past 20 years.
The WR's caught 7 passes yesterday for a total of 85 yards. 53 of those yards came on one play when their third team Def was in.
We are going to see the blitz moving forward from every tem we play. Perhaps on every down. We are also going to see the run shoved down our throat until we can prove that we can stop it.
I was extremely displeased with the offense. Card wet himself in the first quarter and the play calling sucked. Didn't seem there was even thought to calling plays or protection to neutralize ND.
Good news is we won’t see a defense or DL as good as ND’s other than maybe OSU. Purdue was completely out matched. WR’s were open. Card don’t have time.
Agree here. The OL issues seemed to be systematic. Only lousy play I saw was Josh sales. There were some miscommunication and some of the bad blocking was from Mockobee and tight ends. It also seemed like guys were too easily to let the pocket push back especially Mbow where we were backpedaling even before we engaged on passing downs. We need TEs and RBs to protect our QB on these blitzes.
Ya. The physicality severely lacked. I think part of it was just the fact that ND was on game three and Purdue had played a half. Combination of coaching errors, week 1 type mistakes, and simply out matched.
Bad news is we may have 2-3 better opponents still left on the schedule.
We won’t win those games but this was a nightmare matchup for us.
1. Those guys were out to get blood after last week
2. Large physical running qb is our kryptonite on defense
3. Physical blitzing front 7 is our kryptonite to our offense
And we just weren’t ready. I hope we get similar response for other games as ND did after their embarrassing loss.
We have 5 ranked opponents left to play this season......plus we play Wisconsin who we haven't beaten since I can't remember when.
And I wouldn’t expect to beat any of them. I would say we have 4 winnable games - and 3 are on the road. at Oregon state, home vs NU, at MSU, and at Indiana. If we can escape this season with 3 wins, we will be in good shape. Reality is finally seeking in for the people who thought we would win 5-7 games, the people who didn’t look at our schedule and pick which games we could or should win, and the same people who thought the transfer portal improved this team.
If the fans know this (especially the part about the QB), then the coaches need to scheme better against it because obviously then know it as well.
It wasn’t schematic. The big play they had at the beginning was due to Thieneman coming in to get the QB sneak. You can only scheme out of so many weaknesses. On 3rd downs when we dropped on zone and knew he wasn’t running we did very good.. We are just going to Match up better agains some teams over others. It’s like the people that wanted paint fired because he wouldn’t play zone.
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