Nice job of bouncing back by CMP and the guys. Especially liked seeing Vince come out and knock down a number of treys. Good bounce back game for Biggie as well, although I was selfishly hoping for another 20/20 game.
Nice solid win tonight
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Agreed and when Vince plays like that Purdue is no doubt a top ten team. This team drives me nuts, need to get a win vs Maryland and move up a few spots and start positioning for a better seed.
Really odd game to watch. Normally a 20-point win over a ranked team would be very exciting. This one felt like a non conference game against a cupcake.
Crowd felt the same as it didn't sustain very much energy with the exception of v. Edwards 3-point barrage in the first half.
Part of it had to be the lack of flow caused by officials but I wonder if we as fans are all feeling a little burned by tough losses.
As happy as I was to see the team pummel nw, I have to admit it felt a bit hallow, which is probably unfair to a yeam that's 18-5.
Could not help but while enjoying the performance at the same time be even more upset about the loss on Sunday, as it simply never should have happened...no way to reconcile what was happening on the floor (against a far better team) with what had happened just a couple of days ago.
Question for you my friend....If there were two lottery prizes, one a million dollars and the other five million and you won the million would you be as unhappy just winning the million as you are with a Purdue loss?
Interesting comments from CMP in his post-game presser speaking to bouncing back and the three tough losses.....at about 5:10.
Do you really not see that there are some teams that Purdue matches up well with and some that we do not? Purdue had to dedicate so much attention to Watson and Webster that they ended up leaving McVeigh and Horne open and they both played out their asses. Couple that with the officials allowing Nebraska to be extremely physical with our post players and you have a recipe for a loss.
This team has tremendous potential when they are hitting from deep and they 1) play teams who can't exploit our defensive deficiencies or 2) play teams that fail to exploit our defensive deficiencies by not executing.
It's pretty simple IMO.
And yes, that speaks to recruiting. Painter sacrificed athleticism for skill by recruiting Thompson, Mathias and Cline. Guys that are both athletic and skilled are top 50 guys and Painter struggles to bring in those guys.
certainly better than "Shrinkage."
There are only 50 "top 50" guys a year available nationally. With the exception of maybe 5-6 teams everybody struggle bringing in those guys.
True, but I'd like to think a program like Purdue can get one at least every other year. Duke and Kentucky can't take them all.
Sure there are teams that Purdue does not match up well with, but no way that Iowa or Nebraska fit that bill, and very debatable as to whether Minnesota does either (although I would contend that Mason was the matchup issue in that game, and he/it was the difference).
It is not like other teams do not devote the same attention to Watson and Webster, and yet, I don't recall either Horne or Mcveigh lighting anyone else up in the same fashion.
That was a game that Purdue should have won going away...and they had opportunities to do so...and when you watch the Purdue team from last night or against Wisconsin (heck, for any home game for that matter this year save Georgia State), and the one against MSU or OSU (at times) on the road, then it just does not add up to being a matchup issue that is/was the problem...MSU posed far more of a matchup problem than any of the three teams that Purdue lost to did.
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Difference being, the option was not beating Nebraska in a close game (that should not have been) and blowing out NW vs losing to Nebraska or losing to Northwestern.Question for you my friend....If there were two lottery prizes, one a million dollars and the other five million and you won the million would you be as unhappy just winning the million as you are with a Purdue loss?
Purdue did what it could last night -- bounced back and score an impressive win at home against a top-25 team (though one missing it's top scorer).
Don't know how the crowd was in the first half, but they got really loud during a stretch midway through the second when NU twice hacked Haas big-time in one possession and Vince answered by burying a three.
IMO: the only way this game was really going to move the needle on the season would have been if Purdue lost, and that didn't happen. The Boilers now have a great chance to get a major signature win at Maryland Saturday. Win that, I guarantee it won't feel hollow.
True. My money is on 3 though. If they can win at Maryland then we can get greedy. That game is going to be tough though. Their fans are very confident they are going to kill us.
No but between Duke, Kentucky, MSU, UCLA, UNC, Kansas, and typically a strong recruiter like OSU, Illinois, LSU, etc sneaks one in as well. In just those instances, those first 6 programs will probably take 15-20 of those top guys leaving every other D1 programs to fight over the other 30-35 guys. That's a TON of competition and is probably why CMP looks for guys typically in that 50-150 range that he can find that have slipped through cracks (Carsen Edwards) or provide something specific that he thinks he can develop (Mathias, PJT, Cline). If you can't get recruits at the level that those first few programs can, I think CMP's strategy is a good one. If you can sneak a guy once every 3-4 years who is a top 50 guy (Biggie, Smooge, etc), you can have that guy be a focal points around a very solid supporting cast of experienced players. The issue I have with CMP is that his teams tend to lose focus (something most teams do every year) against lower level competition and shoot themselves in the foot. Purdue basketball is like what MSU Football was during the late 90's/early 2000's.
Problem is, there is just no way to even know what to expect...last night's Purdue team probably wins the next two...last Sunday's Purdue team likely loses both.
Purdue is a better team than Maryland...but they also are/were a far better team than all three teams that it has lost to in conference play.
Their fans were extremely confident a year ago that they had not only the best team in the conference, but, in the country...and they were anything but the best in either regard.
Purdue's issue has been consistency, and, a dramatic difference in play at home opposed to away from Mackey...no doubt it would be nice to see a performance on Saturday that looked like last night's, as if that were to happen, I like their chances to get another win...which would make for a nice week for sure and allow for that opportunity to try to be greedy that you alluded to.
We are halfway through beating 2 ranked teams this week. That will certainly help with ranking/seeding. I was hoping that Purdue would be projected as at least a 4 seed so that they will make the committees "preliminary" list of the top 16 seeds on February 11. More pub for the Boilers. I don't think that is achievable even if Purdue wins the next 2 games. Just hope they keep winning!
Also, with a win on Saturday, Purdue will remain undefeated against the top 4 teams in the Big10 standings (if you exclude Purdue).
Focused effort . Without it Purdue is a good team, but with it Purdue is a very good team
It's the lack of consistent execution that you sense. You watch a great win but your not confident that the next game will have same feel.
I knew pursue would play well...big game and home. Need that focus away and always
This is not in total disagreement with your post - but having spent a lot of time with our athletes, especially new recruits, I think Purdue (not Painter) has a hard time bringing in these guys. I know, I know, I know, there has been endless debate about this, but I don't think Purdue is a school ANY top 50 guy grows up hoping to play for. So, if a school he's been dreaming about offers ... why would he not fulfill his dream?
And sure, Painter may have a lot to do with making Purdue a place that kids dream of playing for, but even with a new coach, that will take a LONG time happening ..
I had a college football game on Super Nintendo when I was 10 or 11 or so. Seems like one of the first games I remember where you could pick a college team or even "create" your high school and play. They called Purdue "Pursue". Also had Pale, Spice and Fluke... like they didn't have those naming rights? Sorry, random memory of "Super Play Action Football", carry on.
Between auto correct and fat finger I'm not sure how it ended up being pursue instead of purdue.
Well, at one time, they were called the "Spoilermakers."
https://purdue.rivals.com/news/a-look-back-darn-those-spoilermakers
If the right Indiana kids came and if Purdue was already getting ranked for a few years it might happen quicker, but the odds are it will take a while without some influence like some schools offer. Respect for the institution is more important than a ball team IMO. Had a few kids in Indiana this year, but they all went out of state
Come on, you don't really think "things" happen at other schools that don't happen at Purdue do you? They all bend rules in their own way, and I say that as a former coach and a dad who had two sons recruited. They just can't say it out loud....and that's where boosters come in.
If we're offering "things" we need to get better at it, cause it isn't working!!
Seriously, I think there is cheating (my word) at all schools in big time basketball. The level to which a school will or does cheat is where the differences come in. Minor vs major. Academics, money, female "friends" the list goes on. I don't think PU is doing any of the major things but if you look at the NCAA rules it's virtually impossible not to break some rule.
There are some schools that will do horrendous things in order to attract and keep kids. I think some of the more recent scandals proves that. As an alumnus and donor I hope we aren't doing anything like that, but I'm not naive enough to think we don't do anything against the rules.
Well, not to the same degree...at least not now. Brother in law was offered Chrysler convertible, money and thinking things for his girlfriend to go to Purdue in late 50s. Instead, Butler just placed his brother already in school on basketball schola tr ship if he would go to Butler. I don't think it is quite as rampant today, but unsure why since the media schools never get punished.
Yes it would. Rarely is it the pick of the litter, but somewhere in the field. Purdue just needs to be one of the favorites enough time for the odds to play out...or just get things to fall right
That could be ... but my post has more to do with kids who are committed to being great lying in bed when they are 9 and 10 dreaming of wearing gold and black. An NC or FF isn't going to kick the 6 or 8 elites off their throne. Maybe for one or two local guys or two, but not the top-50 every year. It will take a LOT more than that to replace someone in their dreams ... and 8 years for them to get here. Just reality ... I will agree that Gonzaga and Butler and Shaka Smart did make a relatively fast impact.
I haven't done research, but I doubt there is a top-50 player without an offer from more than one of the elites. If he has that offer and is top-50, what reasoning would he use to choose PU?? and I love PU, have a wife and three kids with PU degrees ... love some of the athletes, support and promote at all times ... but again, what reason would cause a top-50 to come here rather than UK, NC, Duke, Kansas, AZ (if on the west coast), Villanova, Louisville, Florida (from the south), MSU, maybe UCLA.
Sure, Swannigan did ... that doesn't change my overall thought
Sure, Swannigan did ... that doesn't change my overall thought
