With the new rules on returns, I think that is all we can ask anymore. Just don't make things worse.
My take on Iowa
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You guys for my money have the best fan base in the league…
it’s good but not as good as yours. Punt averages low at times but the kicker is nice. Returns meh…
I think we will do okay on Saturday. Winning will take a nice performance and error free football
After dealing with PSU fans for the last week, I absolutely love this thread. This game worries me and here you guys are hoping to keep it close or at least get out of town with all 85 players in one piece. I expect a very close hard fought game certainly concerned about a letdown.
That being said, it's time for OMHR to feel the PAIN. Or something.
Actually, I'm just happy we can take the padlocks off the children's hospital this week.
That being said, it's time for OMHR to feel the PAIN. Or something.
Actually, I'm just happy we can take the padlocks off the children's hospital this week.
Dude I read your board.. those people suck.. I would say send them to the acc where they belong but the ACC doesn’t deserve them.. they’re worse than Ohio state fans, agree?After dealing with PSU fans for the last week, I absolutely love this thread. This game worries me and here you guys are hoping to keep it close or at least get out of town with all 85 players in one piece. I expect a very close hard fought game certainly concerned about a letdown.
That being said, it's time for OMHR to feel the PAIN. Or something.
Actually, I'm just happy we can take the padlocks off the children's hospital this week.
I love your fan base and although I think we CAN win.. 05 was the last time I was cocky toward Iowa
Agreed. I'm happy with the fundamentally sound play other than Sheffield fielding punts below the 10 yard line. I would also have liked to seen Marcellus Moore use his speed on returns a bit more. It's really free yardage if you can take advantage of it. But again, good solid play is better than a bunch of mistakes.
They were and still are awful. Ever since the game ended they've been lurking around our board pouting and trolling. They are in a serious competition with Nebraska and Iowa State fans for my least favorite right now.
Nebraska fans aren’t as nasty as them .. they’re like the polite and stupid fans with Purdue-ish results but they think they’re Georgia lol. Although, maybe you guys don’t see them as that polite .. you have to live by them..
I’d kick them out of the big ten right after penn state .. too bad nobody asked me
I think it will take an exceptional performance. One that we haven't seen yet. I'm thinking realistically 70-30 with Purdue have the 30% chance. If our defense matches their defensive performance & special teams can keep in check, then it comes down to Offense.
Hey, we're 12.5 underdogs. Get Iowa on their heels and see what happens. We have done it before, and can do it again.
This is the worst I've seen PSU fans this year. Their coach is rubbing off on them.
I visit a lot over here to lurk - you guys are pretty level headed about football, at least when it's not related to Indinia or the Domers and even then you don't get too carried away. One has to appreciate that.
The chance we have is that Iowa just inflicts things on themselves vs us. Their style doesn’t match up with ours very well
And yet I can only remember one game where we got really comfortably up on you guys and we've had some pretty decent years in that stretch. Outside of 2015 this has been a game every year for a while now.
A couple things I’m curious about separate this game cause I’m a big ten junkie..
1) will petras make it starting all year?
2) will you guys score on Nebraska
'Like' for the proper spelling of Indinia
Thanks for shutting down their stupid asses
I only want to jump on the pile on #2, Iowa...please continue to beat the piss out of Nebraska!
1) Yes. Petras isn't our problem on offense. He has a lot of room to grow but our two best WR being freshmen and our OL being inexperienced is a far bigger problem. He's pretty tough and generally making good decisions with the ball - could stand a little better pocket presence. The other thing, we haven't needed him to be all world but he's made plays when we needed him to.
2) I think so, our OL is very talented but very, very young for an Iowa team. They have been getting better and better. I think by the end of the season when we play Nebby we're going to be moving the ball a lot better.
Hopefully. Purdue's DL is really good so this will be a good test for our young O-line again this Saturday.
Hmmm... So in your opinion, having a YOUNG offensive line this year is a bit of a problem. And even a talented young offensive lineman is not the same as an experienced line man of similar ability? May I presume that if they had another year to develop, it is your assertion that they would probably be significantly better??
Absolutely! From what I can tell Purdue has struggled with some youth on the O-line similar to Iowa, correct?Hmmm... So in your opinion, having a YOUNG offensive line this year is a bit of a problem. And even a talented young offensive lineman is not the same as an experienced line man of similar ability? May I presume that if they had another year to develop, it is your assertion that they would probably be significantly better??
When the Nebraska AD fired Bo Pellini after they beat us in OT in 2014 I think it was, he made a comment of something to the effect of "we had to evaluate where Iowa was" meaning beating us wasn't important enough to them. Rumor has it that Ferentz was none too happy with that comment. We've run off 6 straight since then and just always seem to have a different gear with Nebraska from that point on.
It has been an "occasional" discussion topic around here...
In summary, we've had 4 upperclassmen OL retire from football within the past year due to injuries. There is a patch-work of transfers and younger guys stepping in to fill the holes. Recruiting of OL could have been better, but likely would have at least produced a serviceable line given average development, S&C, and overall health.
One poster pointed to Iowa as an example of young linemen playing early.
I expect our entire offense to be much better next year, though we may have to replace our center. He's likely gone in the first round of the draft if he wants to come out. We're actually pretty young everywhere except our secondary and we are very happy with our young guys there. This team is probably a year away from being really good.Hmmm... So in your opinion, having a YOUNG offensive line this year is a bit of a problem. And even a talented young offensive lineman is not the same as an experienced line man of similar ability? May I presume that if they had another year to develop, it is your assertion that they would probably be significantly better??
Purdue must have an epiphany from our previous lame offensive game plans to stay in this one. The Hawks’ defense will feast on a sloppy offense.
I’ll be happy if we stay within two TDs, and avoid any serious injuries.
And yet they're still #2 in the country...and rush the ball for 125 yards per game including 118 vs Penn State. And average 31.5 points per game. But let's not let those little stats get in the way of your narrative...
I'd take Iowa's offensive line any day of the week over Purdue's...
Dodson is not as good as Bell against zone coverage--both have proven that against Iowa. He's a bit faster and, I agree, there was no connection for Dodson and Roberson. After Bell, I do believe our talent level is better than they have seen, especially if you include Durham. Lots of little factors beyond the receiving corp will play a bigger part---can we get them the ball in space and protect the QB? They won't be intimidated but could be overconfident. In the end, hoping it will be a fun game to watch.
that and if by chance they would ever meet in the BIG10 championship, I wouldn't want to be in Iowa's shoes.
I have no narrative except to seek the truth and good discussion. My mind is open. But "I'll take Iowa's offensive line over Purdue's" isn't even the topic. That isn't even debatable. And neither is the fact that guys playing oline generally get better with age. That is the Iowa guy coming here saying, yes, having a young oline is one thing that might hold this team back. That's the point. Having 19 and 20 year olds starting instead of 22 and 23 year olds is a factor.
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He had a rough start last year but has led us on 12 straight wins since. Hard to complain too much now.
Yes, and I expect you guys to exploit that and we should counter w/ the quick outs to receivers like psu did on an uptempo O, that had you guys reeling until Clifford got hurt.
It helps having an All American nicknamed "The Hammer" at center. I shudder to think where we would be without him. Unfortunately he can't play all 5 spots up front.
"One poster pointed to Iowa as an example of young linemen playing early."
Sure, having 22 and 23 year olds all the time would be great. But the point I had made before is that you can construct a serviceable OL with younger guys, and I gave examples of that being the case. Iowa was one of those examples. Purdue is not...
Yeah, good discussion here. From an Iowa fan's perspective, Iowa kind of is what it is. And the team and the coaching staff seem entirely comfortable with it. Very good defense, very good special teams, offense that aspires to be average. They want to get the game played a certain way, and if they can/do, it's very difficult to beat them.
As to Petras, he gets a lot of ire and much of it not really his fault. He was very good against Maryland (not saying much) but after starting 2-11 against Penn State he went 15 for his next 20 for 175 yards and two TD's. Most QB's in the league/country won't put up a better stretch against that Penn State defense this year. Yes if Purdue moves him off his spot, Iowa will struggle throwing.
Iowa's OL just hasn't been as good as last year to date. Starting a redshirt freshman at LT, a true freshman at RG and a sophomore at RT who hadn't played much before this year. They are improving, but just not there yet. The LT and RG will be very good players, perhaps as soon as late this year. But that is not today.
Purdue is a "good matchup" for Iowa from the Purdue standpoint just from how they like to play. Brohm doesn't seem to care all that much about trying to run it and isn't afraid to have his QB turn it over. He is going to continue to be aggressive against the Iowa defense, which is what you have to do to beat it.
The Iowa defense is largely the same as it has been in previous years. No individuals on the DL who are as good as Nixon and Gholston were last year. The linebackers this year are far better, and especially since Campbell and Benson, the MLB and WLB, didn't play last year against Purdue due to injuries. Campbell is Iowa's best defender by far. If Moss is out, that hurts Iowa. The depth we think is good, but obviously it's just theory until the backups get tested. Terry Roberts, who replaced Moss when he got hurt, played well for a half last week. But that is different than going for an entire game.
This sure is a refreshing thread after all the garbage we've seen over the last week and especially the last two days. Thank you!
I made the 5 hour trek from KC to IC on Saturday and it was an absolutely amazing environment. So amazing in fact, i intend to do it again this Saturday. It's probably wishful thinking to expect the same crowd, but you know the Busch Lite will be flowing and it's a 2:30 game as opposed to 11am so we'll see what happens. The fans who know what's going on realize this is anything but a gimme.
Regarding Clifford going out and the speculation they would've won easily had he not gone out...i mean i can definitely see where this is coming from, but it felt like the momentum was coming back around before he went down. At least I know i felt that way before I even knew he was out of the game. He had thrown 2 picks and we were only down 17- 10 when Roberson came in IIRC. It's not uncommon at all to see opposing offenses move at will against Iowa for a drive or two and then our DC gets it figured out. That is, of course, unless the other team has David Bell and then all bets are off...the kids a stud and we don't ever seem to get him figured out.
If Purdue can consistently sustain drives after they are off script, it could be a long day for the Black and Gold that looks like Yellow. If the Iowa defense can get a turnover or a few other positive plays, maybe we can get it rolling downhill.
It's the craziest thing...we're all so used to being bummed when our team can't convert on 3rd down, but this isn't the case for Iowa fans this year. You don't hit the beer line until AFTER our punter has done his thing. Tory Taylor is our MVP season-to-date and normally that's a bad thing when your punter is labeled this way, but this guy is a difference maker and borderline folk hero in Iowa.
Here's to a fun and entertaining game.
I made the 5 hour trek from KC to IC on Saturday and it was an absolutely amazing environment. So amazing in fact, i intend to do it again this Saturday. It's probably wishful thinking to expect the same crowd, but you know the Busch Lite will be flowing and it's a 2:30 game as opposed to 11am so we'll see what happens. The fans who know what's going on realize this is anything but a gimme.
Regarding Clifford going out and the speculation they would've won easily had he not gone out...i mean i can definitely see where this is coming from, but it felt like the momentum was coming back around before he went down. At least I know i felt that way before I even knew he was out of the game. He had thrown 2 picks and we were only down 17- 10 when Roberson came in IIRC. It's not uncommon at all to see opposing offenses move at will against Iowa for a drive or two and then our DC gets it figured out. That is, of course, unless the other team has David Bell and then all bets are off...the kids a stud and we don't ever seem to get him figured out.
If Purdue can consistently sustain drives after they are off script, it could be a long day for the Black and Gold that looks like Yellow. If the Iowa defense can get a turnover or a few other positive plays, maybe we can get it rolling downhill.
It's the craziest thing...we're all so used to being bummed when our team can't convert on 3rd down, but this isn't the case for Iowa fans this year. You don't hit the beer line until AFTER our punter has done his thing. Tory Taylor is our MVP season-to-date and normally that's a bad thing when your punter is labeled this way, but this guy is a difference maker and borderline folk hero in Iowa.
Here's to a fun and entertaining game.
And the context of that original exchange... The Iowa example was in reference to my stating that the root cause of the poor OL play is not primarily recruiting but rather tied to lack of development, strength & conditioning. Countering that by saying schools like Iowa have young oline implies that it is a normal thing for schools with traditionally good olines to play a lot of younger players. It is not. Everyone everywhere wants to get old and stay old at those positions.
And it doesn't refute the premise that Purdue's oline is not as good as it should be (serviceable) because the upper classes were gutted by injury. If your point is simply that Iowa recruits better OL then we simply got off different exit ramps to start with.
As to #1, I hope so as the small glimpse I got of the backup during garbage time vs Maryland was not pretty...Petras has gotten better, he is not great. If the initial option is open he throws a nice ball or makes a good decision to not throw it if he is not open. If option 1 is taken away he struggles. Hoping that gets better as he now has 14 starts under his belt.
As to #2, Adrian Martinez does not throw an accurate ball. That is a big plus to the way Iowa plays primarily zone defense and forces turnovers. Nebraska asks their QB to run the ball which usually bodes well for Iowa as by the time they get to the 12th game their QBs are little and sometimes a lot banged up. I'm hoping that continues
Safe travels to any of you heading to Iowa City this weekend!!
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