For clarification, Lenny - is that Joe 6-pack for abs or Falstaff? Asking for a friend.....
Matt Painter and FF / NC
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For clarification, Lenny - is that Joe 6-pack for abs or Falstaff? Asking for a friend.....
Agree but if I’m Drew I’d begin to think I’ve given millions and Purdue wants more? Even Drew’s well doesn’t have an unlimited supply. What I do think is Brees can be the face of Purdue and he could be the salesman to solicit alumni with the big bucks
And Elite 8 run in a single year doesn't mean that much. Especially at a non-basketball school. Very, very few Miami Hurricanes boosters care about hoops. But, you don't need many, just a few very wealthy ones to care.
I agree. The face of the NIL program for Purdue has to be someone people recognize, want to do business with and who has some skin in the game themselves.
If a decent percentage of John Purdue Club donations could be diverted to a collective, aka the Jack Perdue Club, then that might solve it.
Then have Cardinal on the hoops side.
Not sure Cardinal carries enough influence to get big $ alumni to dig deep. Maybe a former athlete to go after former athletes but maybe someone from industry, who can talk numbers a little better to go after the big $ names no one knows about.
What's worse is an IU TROLL/WELCHER who can't add up enough funds to pay off a clear wager.
Oops! Sorry about that, you IU trolls all look alike to me.
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I think Painter will stay for as long as he can stand the craziness. Might be 3 years, maybe 10. I think we still have a shot at a FF before Painter leaves or retires. A NC is still an outside possibility if you're good enough to get to a FF. I still believe if we had beaten Virginia like we should have; we would have won the NC that year. I wish the NIL was different. Seems it should only be provided for actual services and not paid until services rendered. Up front pay out and guarantees should not be allowed. If you are part of a local TV commercial for example, you shouldn't get paid until the actual commercial is produced and aired. It shouldn't be pay for play. You should have to earn your NIL money by actually doing something of significance. For the integrity and preservation of college sports, the whole Pack situation with Miami should not be an acceptable path. The geniuses at the NCAA need to figure something out fast!
I kind of like the idea of every D1 school having the same amount of NIL money to work with, or some sort of salary cap they can't go over.
Let's say it's $100K. Miami can give all $100k to Pack or spread it out among several players. But, Miami would have the same amount of NIL as say...Northwestern.
The problem with this is the question of 'market value' and can athletes earn private endorsements outside the NIL, which basically puts us back in the situation we're in now.
Schools don’t give NIL money. That idea would be overturned in court immediately.
That Texas Tech team was really good, I think we beat that Auburn team for sure but not sure about the NC game.
I believe that the change would have to be in the people who have those high expectations. They finally have an opportunity to materially - and legally - help make it happen.
It's the best avenue to getting large NIL money in the hands of NCAA players. That's been proven over the last year. That is unless we have a 20+ billion dollar donor willing to throw crazy amounts of money at players.
11 out of the 14 Big Ten schools now have collectives. More than half have multiple.
No? Purdue is in the process of getting one organized, but it hasn’t gone live yet.
I wonder about that as well. It’s got to be some thing that weighs on him. But certainly there will be some rules put into place soon.. probably exonerating everybody that has cheated the system to this point and then ‘stricter guidelines?’
Call we cynical, but CMP isn't getting out of coaching anytime soon. The paychecks are too big and he is still young (51). What else is he going to do? He's a basketball coach. Jay Wright is 60. Big difference in those 9 years.
I don't think NIL is going to chase many coaches out of the profession. Let's be completely honest here, the college game has been less than clean for a very long time. These guys didn't "retire" over any of that. NIL won't be any different. They just make too much money to walk away when they are still young.
I don't think NIL is going to chase many coaches out of the profession. Let's be completely honest here, the college game has been less than clean for a very long time. These guys didn't "retire" over any of that. NIL won't be any different. They just make too much money to walk away when they are still young.
I don’t think CMP has to do anything if he were to choose to leave Purdue.
The media loves him though, so he would get a job as an analyst very easily.
That said, he isn’t going anywhere.
The university can’t give out NIL dollar. They can help organize a collective to be formed. In this article from mid April, Ken Halpin said they are working on one. Not sure how it could possibly take so long to go live.
BoilerUpload - NIL collective coming, will be built 'Purdue way'
Unlike some schools that have jumped into the deep end, Purdue has moved deliberately in building a collective
purdue.rivals.com
There hasn’t been much action overall. Everyone is waiting for the NBA early entrants to decide if they are staying in or not. When players start pulling out it will pick up.
So, does Painter take Purdue to the FF at some point? NC at some point?
If you look at the Elite 8 history under Keady and Painter,
Keady got his 1st one in his 14th season. Painter got his 1st one in his 14th season.
Keady got his second in his 20th season. Painter's 20th season would be 2025.
Here is to hoping 2025 (or sooner) is a FF for Painter and Purdue. Definitely doable.
I will say if Painter does not take Purdue to the FF in the next 5-6 years, he probably never will.
I still believe Purdue should make 1 or 2 FFs a decade. That is both realistic and doable.
Go Boilers!
If you look at the Elite 8 history under Keady and Painter,
Keady got his 1st one in his 14th season. Painter got his 1st one in his 14th season.
Keady got his second in his 20th season. Painter's 20th season would be 2025.
Here is to hoping 2025 (or sooner) is a FF for Painter and Purdue. Definitely doable.
I will say if Painter does not take Purdue to the FF in the next 5-6 years, he probably never will.
I still believe Purdue should make 1 or 2 FFs a decade. That is both realistic and doable.
Go Boilers!
Just because Painter doesn't make a FF on a set schedule doesn't mean he never will. The problem is the college game is ever changing so trying to use a magic 8 ball to determine whether Painter makes a FF or not.
There is only time that statement really becomes true and that is when Painter retires. If he hasn't done it by then, it is safe to say he never will get one. Up until that point, nothing is a sure thing.
Coach Painter is young by coaching standards, so as long as Purdue keeps him and his assistants fat and happy, he'll be here awhile. Aside from the BBoS, that seems to drop regularly, the NIL is going to be our biggest hurdle to a NC. Even with that, a top player of an opposing team could have their worst game, and be looking towards the NBA (see Ivey), and we could get lucky and slip by.
