And because Purdue wasn't feeding the post as option #1.
I don’t think that you’ve been paying attention to how Edey is used this year. He is setting ball screens all game.
I do agree with most of this and have said the same many times. The narrative that you can't win it all with an elite big is patently false. The narrative that you can't win it all with an elite big without high level to elite players around him has been consistently true.
If Purdue was not beating good teams and then winning against bad teams someone might point out talent, coaching or system can't beat the good teams. However, when you beat the best in the land with the system you currently have and then lose, where would anyone come up with the idea of the system being the issue? It is NOT my desired style day in and day out, but it does not seem very logical with some of the takes. What happens over the course of the season is other teams and probably 50-100 different coaches study the team and the players and try to figure out weaknesses. Some try this and others look at that and think maybe they can do that. Now, the other teams are a lot harder to beat and that is before your players don't take the next time as serious since they already beat them. Purdue this year has fewer weaknesses than some teams in the past that were good, but more vulnerable. Any team that gets really hot from the perimeter can be a problem for any team and all teams have weaknesses.
Well if you listen to the msu podcast that bonefish was pushing they say edey doesn’t screen really…which is false.
yeah it is a mixture. Did the opposition have you playing too fast or were there just wide open shots with plenty of time that were missed? Sometimes the opposition is physically superior and makes it hard to score. Other times it is lack of detail in the little things that do not create good shots. Mentally focused with an edge, but not fear or overconfident is the goal. Soooooooo very much about the players and the balance between good choices and confidence.
I’ve been told it’s actually because we focus our offense around a center and not bad shooting.
In the last 3 years Purdue didn't have people to drive the ball. Jaden could, but he was never under control and he was it. This team has two (3?) that can drive on anyone in Braden, Lance and Fletcher if not bounced around. That was not prevalent in the three losses. Mason can now put the ball on the floor to relieve pressure and Cam just needs a step in an opening as well. Shooters...Braden, Lance, Fletch, Mason as regulars with the potential in a given game for Cam and Myles. None of this mentions how Zach plays different than previous low post players since he is much quicker this year. This team is much more versatile and capable. Purdue can beat a LOT of teams, but Purdue if not sharp can get beat by a lot of teams
Haha it was in response to bonefish pushing his podcast and him always saying we don’t have dynamic guards and the formula for being post focused doesn’t work in March.
Our recent data (94, 00, and 19 Elite 8s) says a post-centered
Except for when it is. I know people hate luck and randomness but the worse of a shooting team you are the more luck plays a role in the individual shooting performance in any single game. This year's team doesn't only shoot a higher percentage, there is much less variability in their shooting percentage versus last year. That's not because teams are doing a worse overall job of defending them this year.
People still refuse to acknowledge that last year's Purdue team was playing like an 8 seed the last month of the season. We just did enough early to still get a 1 seed. That team was not great going into the tourney. Both freshmen and Gillis were banged up and it showed.
lol we’ve been over this multiple times. You have your opinions and I have my opinions.
Was the team in 2022 running its offense through the post ? I feel like it was more motion and through Jaden.
when has a post focused offense worked for Purdue in March?
I don’t know how to tell you in any more ways that Purdue shot poorly in all 3 of those games they lost. Didn’t matter much about the post. Shot under their average…last 2 were a pretty good amount.
On the whole people with large feet know more than people with small feet from 0 10 16 years old, but foot size has nothing to do with knowledge. It is linked to knowledge as ALL real life data can mathematically calculate a Pearson Product Moment correlation and plotting on the X axis shoe size and the Y axis knowledge, but shoe size in spite of the "appearance" does NOT mean that a 10 year old boy with a big foot has more knowledge than a 16 year old girl with a smaller foot. Linkage never means a relationship is causal whereas, no linkage does.
Also in years past if Purdue didn't hit the outside shot or score the ball at the 5 they were limited. Today, Purdue has a few players that can score inside the arc outside the 5 spot
Every team usually shoots poorly in the games they lose. That's not something unique to Purdue.
Here is the struggle. I, nor anyone state with certainty that those that believe what they believe they have seen in the recent past will not be correct in the future. Matt has discussed a bit about the games being different, but he too could be incorrect. The issue is the logic used to grab 3 games with different circumstances...teams...players...age of players...and so forth and LUMP them together for a single data point and say that data point is important, but the other data points under the same considerations of which there are many times more is not important.
Exactly. The sample size is painfully small and it's a very lazy position to suggest a single data point in such a small sample size is the ultimate arbiter of success.
They have a much stronger stance discussing theory than using selective March data on Purdue and ignoring all that other data. Inside the data they could say not being post centric puts the ball in better ball handling players...people that are more a threat away from the rim many times. They could discuss more backdoor openings as a result of countering pressure with nobody down low...they could discuss more driving lane. The could say the player only needs to be effective in preventing the rim and always playing out on offense.Exactly. The sample size is painfully small and it's a very lazy position to suggest a single data point in such a small sample size is the ultimate arbiter of success.
What is fascinating is how recent history is being ignored. Who attempted the most shots for UConn in the Final Four last year? Who attempted the most shots in the 2nd weekend for UConn last year? Who attempted the most shots in the first weekend for UConn last year? The answer to all three questions is this guy, who is very much a traditional post player:
TIME HAS TOLD US THAT EDEY DOES TAKE US TO THE FINAL FOUR
You sound as excited as I am. Love the all CAPS! It reads like you’re YELLING! Super cool effect.
Haha I am very excited! I don’t even know what to with my hands!
