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And yet here you are, generalizing and name calling on another schools forum. What does that make you? The noble defender of decency? I think notGood Lord you're a bunch of toxic, delusional fools. That so many of you are convinced Izzo is dirty goes to show how disconnected IQ can be from ability to judge others.
Frickin' cement heads....
Keep telling us how great Molester State U is.Good Lord you're a bunch of toxic, delusional fools. That so many of you are convinced Izzo is dirty goes to show how disconnected IQ can be from ability to judge others.
Frickin' cement heads....
Sounds like he’s a good kid and this is nothing against him at all but why wouldn’t you go to MSU? You can do whatever you want and Izzo won’t discipline you. The you get to have Izzo cry all over you by the bench
Scumbag coach, shit town, surrounding by criminal athletes, sexual assault U., terrible academics, won’t see the floor, get recruited over, more former players in jail than NBA, coach can’t past round of 32 lately. But hey, have fun kid!
Good Lord you're a bunch of toxic, delusional fools. That so many of you are convinced Izzo is dirty goes to show how disconnected IQ can be from ability to judge others.
Frickin' cement heads....
Untrue on all accounts. It’s your right to be upset about losing a good player but don’t disparage a university to fit your dim narrative. Purdue has been at odds with MSU for a long time with misplaced hatred because you lost a couple of recruits. If Izzo is dirty as you all claim then why was your legendary coach such good buddies with him? They say people tend to attract likeminded people.
Well I might be mistaken but Purdue I think just beat MSU in volleyball the other day, was a lot better in baseball than MSU, went farther in the tournament the last couple years in basketball than MSU, and even though they got beat by MSU on Saturday the football team has come out of the shitter so far that they were picked to win by the game day crew on the road at an MSU team that was preseason top 15.Someone please tell me what sport is Purdue good at playing?
Well I might be mistaken but Purdue I think just beat MSU in volleyball the other day, was a lot better in baseball than MSU, went farther in the tournament the last couple years in basketball than MSU, and even though they got beat by MSU on Saturday the football team has come out of the shitter so far that they were favored on the road at an MSU team that was preseason top 15.
Golf is always good. So is track. Just had a couple of Olympic medalists divers that I'm sure you cheered for a few years ago if you any pride in your country.
I think Purdue sports overall is in a good spot. Does this answer your question?
Someone please tell me what sport is Purdue good at playing?
You mean Payne and Appling and Walton who were never charged/arrested/convicted? Those guys? Punish them because someone starts a rumor with no substance? I mean if you don’t like losing out on a recruit I conpletely get it. Just don’t make shit up to make yourself feel betterI personally like the way Izzo punished his players accused of rape (Payne and appling) and his coach who hit women (Walton) by not doin a damn thing. Walton even lived with him correct?
As far as recruiting I can't prove a lot of the things I see him accused of doing so innocent until proven guilty but didn't it come out that bridges got paid? Idk how you clear someone and also donate to charity the amount that was said to be given. Am I misunderstanding that one?
Can't say nothing nice don't say nothing at all so I'll give him one compliment. He can wear the shit out of a ribbon.
I personally like the way Izzo punished his players accused of rape (Payne and appling) and his coach who hit women (Walton) by not doin a damn thing. Walton even lived with him correct?
As far as recruiting I can't prove a lot of the things I see him accused of doing so innocent until proven guilty but didn't it come out that bridges got paid? Idk how you clear someone and also donate to charity the amount that was said to be given. Am I misunderstanding that one?
Can't say nothing nice don't say nothing at all so I'll give him one compliment. He can wear the shit out of a ribbon.
I personally like the way Izzo punished his players accused of rape (Payne and appling) and his coach who hit women (Walton) by not doin a damn thing. Walton even lived with him correct?
As far as recruiting I can't prove a lot of the things I see him accused of doing so innocent until proven guilty but didn't it come out that bridges got paid? Idk how you clear someone and also donate to charity the amount that was said to be given. Am I misunderstanding that one?
Can't say nothing nice don't say nothing at all so I'll give him one compliment. He can wear the shit out of a ribbon.
Didn't Payne sort of admit to it though? He was quoted as saying "I could see how she felt like she couldn't leave" Also the magic cut ties with him pretty damn quick after the issue became news against MSU.You mean Payne and Appling and Walton who were never charged/arrested/convicted? Those guys? Punish them because someone starts a rumor with no substance? I mean if you don’t like losing out on a recruit I conpletely get it. Just don’t make shit up to make yourself feel better
Thought there was $400 involved in there somewhere. Just a drop in the bucket compared to what we are seeing some get but it was still on that guys books.In the Appling case the Prosecutor (who attended UM and who had been no friend to MSU athletes over the years) come out and said “no crime had been committed”. He didn’t say “there wasn’t enough evidence to arrest”, he said no crime had been committed. That’s a pretty strong indicator that a sexual assault did not occur.
With regards to Bridges, his mom got a lunch paid by an agent. Neither Bridges nor Tom Izzo knew it happened. It also happened a year AFTER he had been playing for MSU (summer after his Freshman year). I have no idea how this makes either Tom Izzo or Miles Bridges dirty. The NCAA required that the money be paid back by Bridges mom and it was considered over.
With regard to Walton he was accused by a woman that he had slapped her but others at the bar where it occurred had a different story. The police never filed an arrest warrant so there was insufficient evidence to meet the lowest bar of guilt in American law.
Didn't Payne sort of admit to it though? He was quoted as saying "I could see how she felt like she couldn't leave" Also the magic cut ties with him pretty damn quick after the issue became news against MSU.
I don't remember appling commenting on the issue while in jail for other reasons. Has he since he's been out?
Didn't know Walton was accused of sexual assault as well as hittin a woman in the face until I just looked it up. He got put on leave so what's the latest on him? Is he off leave yet?
The questions I'm asking I'm genuinely curious to what you have to say.
You're right and I believe in innocent until proven guilty. With how it's been proven how the AD up there has handled this stuff though it just makes you wonder about all of it.Payne’s statement in a vacuum means very little. You don’t know what the accuser said when she was questioned by investigators. In my time as a police officer there were occasions when women walked back their stories under questioning. Most sexual assault victims tell the truth but on occasion their stories change. For the female investigators to tell the prosecutor that no crime was committed and for the prosecutor to tell the same thing to the press makes me believe that Payne’s statement had no bearing on whether or not a crime occurred given the rest of the evidence.
If the Magic cut ties with a player who had been cleared by 3 different investigating agencies (Prosecutors office, Title IX and the office of equal opportunity) then that’s a shame.
Key word you use is accused. Payne got cut because he really isn’t a good nba player. Appling has screwed up his life and Walton got caught up in the whole espn Nassar trying to tie into Izzo and dantonio. Let me ask you, do you punish an employee or child because someone accuses them of something? Izzo and Dantonio are not cut that way. They have lost recruits because they refuse to pay handlers or parents and I’m sure Painter is the same way. They are all very good coaches that we should be proud ofDidn't Payne sort of admit to it though? He was quoted as saying "I could see how she felt like she couldn't leave" Also the magic cut ties with him pretty damn quick after the issue became news against MSU.
I don't remember appling commenting on the issue while in jail for other reasons. Has he since he's been out?
Didn't know Walton was accused of sexual assault as well as hittin a woman in the face until I just looked it up. He got put on leave so what's the latest on him? Is he off leave yet?
The questions I'm asking I'm genuinely curious to what you have to say.
Key word you use is accused. Payne got cut because he really isn’t a good nba player. Appling has screwed up his life and Walton got caught up in the whole espn Nassar trying to tie into Izzo and dantonio. Let me ask you, do you punish an employee or child because someone accuses them of something? Izzo and Dantonio are not cut that way. They have lost recruits because they refuse to pay handlers or parents and I’m sure Painter is the same way. They are all very good coaches that we should be proud of
Just read about that after you posted. His mom received a lunch and a loan for $400. Both occurred a year after coming to MSU so it was not an inducement to get Miles to commit to MSU. Moreover, Miles mom was unhappy that Miles decided to stay another year at MSU. Miles had no knowledge of it since the agent went straight to Mom. It was paid back but my question still stands. How does this make Tom Izzo or Miles dirty?Thought there was $400 involved in there somewhere. Just a drop in the bucket compared to what we are seeing some get but it was still on that guys books.
BTW, I very much appreciate the civility! Nice to know opposing points of view can be discussed without getting ugly with comments. Thanks! I really like Purdue basketball and I always pull for them except when they play MSUDidn't Payne sort of admit to it though? He was quoted as saying "I could see how she felt like she couldn't leave" Also the magic cut ties with him pretty damn quick after the issue became news against MSU.
I don't remember appling commenting on the issue while in jail for other reasons. Has he since he's been out?
Didn't know Walton was accused of sexual assault as well as hittin a woman in the face until I just looked it up. He got put on leave so what's the latest on him? Is he off leave yet?
The questions I'm asking I'm genuinely curious to what you have to say.
Just read about that after you posted. His mom received a lunch and a loan for $400. Both occurred a year after coming to MSU so it was not an inducement to get Miles to commit to MSU. Moreover. Miles mom was unhappy that Miles decided to stay another year at MSU. Miles had no knowledge of it since the agent went straight to Mom. It was paid back but my question still stands. How does this make Tom Izzo or Miles dirty?
According to you, Izzo weasels his way out of any questionable situation unscathed...…..gets to sounding kind of fishy after a while IMO
To your question on how I'd handle it Read my response to @SpartanfanKey word you use is accused. Payne got cut because he really isn’t a good nba player. Appling has screwed up his life and Walton got caught up in the whole espn Nassar trying to tie into Izzo and dantonio. Let me ask you, do you punish an employee or child because someone accuses them of something? Izzo and Dantonio are not cut that way. They have lost recruits because they refuse to pay handlers or parents and I’m sure Painter is the same way. They are all very good coaches that we should be proud of
I guess you can't tie them to any of it which is why nothing happened. Im curious to know the path the money took after it went into his moms hands. If she gave it to miles and said it was from her is that just a loophole the agent figured out he could use? How does that work?Just read about that after you posted. His mom received a lunch and a loan for $400. Both occurred a year after coming to MSU so it was not an inducement to get Miles to commit to MSU. Moreover, Miles mom was unhappy that Miles decided to stay another year at MSU. Miles had no knowledge of it since the agent went straight to Mom. It was paid back but my question still stands. How does this make Tom Izzo or Miles dirty?
LJ Scott been arrested like 7 times and still plays on Saturday. msu is a shitshowAn allegation was made against Payne and Appling and not only where they not convicted of a crime they weren’t even charged with a crime. Walton was an former player when an allegation was made against him and again no charges were filed. If you feel people should be punished based simply on allegations then our entire justice system would need to be rewritten.
BTW, I very much appreciate the civility! Nice to know opposing points of view can be discussed without getting ugly with comments. Thanks! I really like Purdue basketball and I always pull for them except when they play MSU
I guess you can't tie them to any of it which is why nothing happened. Im curious to know the path the money took after it went into his moms hands. If she gave it to miles and said it was from her is that just a loophole the agent figured out he could use? How does that work?
Appreciate the convo with you and @spartan tim btw
Deadspin piece on the Appling and Payne rape from 2010:You mean Payne and Appling and Walton who were never charged/arrested/convicted? Those guys? Punish them because someone starts a rumor with no substance? I mean if you don’t like losing out on a recruit I conpletely get it. Just don’t make shit up to make yourself feel better