Well. You are entitled to your opinion.Without a doubt. 16 is a great number. No byes. No need for auto seeds. And it'd be incredibly difficult to win a national championship. Home field for the Top 8. Neutral sites after.
Well. You are entitled to your opinion.Without a doubt. 16 is a great number. No byes. No need for auto seeds. And it'd be incredibly difficult to win a national championship. Home field for the Top 8. Neutral sites after.
Doesn't sound like a great reason to make it bigger.You make it seem like the 4 team playoff was super competitive. I'll give you a hint, it wasn't.
18 team Big Ten. Not a 10, 11, 12 or even 14 team conference. When you don't play nearly half the conference, you have to consider the teams you played and beat.We’re being ridiculous.
Of Course they deserved to be in as an 11-1 (8-1) B1G team…
Accept your premise, BUT they also deserve total ridicule for playing some of the worst football I’ve ever seen and wasting their one shot (they wont be back). And it was against a suspect ND team that basically put their offense (Love) on the sidelines after the longest td run in playoff history to rest his knee.
Note: I would have said that IU crapped the bed, but that topic seems to have been well covered elsewhere on these threads
Regardless of strength of schedule?We’re being ridiculous.
Of Course they deserved to be in as an 11-1 (8-1) B1G team…
You played the worst opponent by far on that list, and unless you’re just lying to yourself only scored 3 points…face it, you wasted your only chance at the playoffs as I see 7 likely losses on your schedule next year with 2 toss ups, and 3 non conference jv gamesPenn State 38, SMU 10,
Texas 38, Clemson 24
Ohio State 42, Tennessee 17
Notre Dame 27, Indiana 17
What's even more deserving of your ridicule than "total ridicule? The performance of every other team that lost in the first round, each by more than IU did.
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Now there are more teams with a shot at a national championship in theory. Which ends spreading out talent. That's a good thing. You get more smaller brands like an Indiana who have a shot at a playoff spot. That's a good thing.Doesn't sound like a great reason to make it bigger.
Did Indiana play the worst opponent? I mean they were ranked ahead of Ohio State.You played the worst opponent by far on that list, and unless you’re just lying to yourself only scored 3 points…face it, you wasted your only chance at the playoffs as I see 7 likely losses on your schedule next year with 2 toss ups, and 3 non conference jv games
You played the worst opponent by far on that list, and unless you’re just lying to yourself only scored 3 points…face it, you wasted your only chance at the playoffs as I see 7 likely losses on your schedule next year with 2 toss ups, and 3 non conference jv games
You’re right IU will likely lose a couple of the jv games too, so let’s say 2-10 as the high mark next year.Why is ND "the worst opponent by far?"
And IU "only scored three points;" are you proposing that the fourth quarter doesn't count? That teams that play hard until the final whistle are somehow inferior? Because if that's the case, under your theory SMU lost 35-3 and Tennessee lost 35-10. In fact, if you eliminate the fourth quarter IU/ND was still the closest first round playoff game.
Finally, you have IU most likely going 1-8 in conference next year (7 likely losses and two 50/50 games).
This IU staff took a team with an 0-9 conference record from the year before and went 8-1 with six months to put a program together. And now, with an established culture and roster returns three 1st team all-B1G defenders and already has another top 25 portal haul.
Hey... your subjective opinions are all yours to have.
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That ND ranking is another demo, like IU, that the committee did not truly account for strength of schedule. Pretty obvious.Did Indiana play the worst opponent? I mean they were ranked ahead of Ohio State.
Why? Because you are an Indiana fan?Now there are more teams with a shot at a national championship in theory. Which ends spreading out talent. That's a good thing. You get more smaller brands like an Indiana who have a shot at a playoff spot. That's a good thing.
LOL...Not “everyone.” And IU didn’t “only” lose by ten. They just plain lost by ten; 27-17.
They also won 11 games and had an extraordinary season. Those writers and his coaching peers overwhelming voted him as national coach of the year. I think he’d sleep just fine knowing that your opinion of him matters… to you.
And then he’ll be up at 4:30 am to work towards making it happen again next year. It’s no fluke and it’s no accident that the man and his staff win, win, win.
Nope. Felt this way beforehand. 16 was always the best solution.Why? Because you are an Indiana fan?
I've always felt 8 was the best.Nope. Felt this way beforehand. 16 was always the best solution.
This year that would have made sense as it would have effectively eliminated the 4 blowout teams if we said 4 beat conf champs plus 4 at-larges.I've always felt 8 was the best.
Little brother always desperate for acceptance.Indinia fans in this thread (well, on this entire forum really):
Don’t even start on that BS concept. Every conference, including the mighty SEC, has one-or-two teams at the top and then a bunch of MID. IU played in a Power 4 conference and the only game that they lost all season was at tO$U (same team that seal-clubbed Tennessee) and was within seconds of being tied at halftime. Notre Dame is a good team. That’s why they were favored to win. If you can get past the “Indiana” on the uniform and honestly tell me that if, say, a Michigan/Iowa/Wisconsin-type had played the same schedule and had the #2 scoring margin in the nation at over 23pts, you wouldn’t think they deserved to be in the CFP, then Herbstreet may as well get his dream of an All-SEC tournament, irregardless of struggling SEC teams losing games they weren’t supposed to by big margins…Regardless of strength of schedule?
18 team conferenceDon’t even start on that BS concept. Every conference, including the mighty SEC, has one-or-two teams at the top and then a bunch of MID. IU played in a Power 4 conference and the only game that they lost all season was at tO$U (same team that seal-clubbed Tennessee) and was within seconds of being tied at halftime. Notre Dame is a good team. That’s why they were favored to win. If you can get past the “Indiana” on the uniform and honestly tell me that if, say, a Michigan/Iowa/Wisconsin-type had played the same schedule and had the #2 scoring margin in the nation at over 23pts, you wouldn’t think they deserved to be in the CFP, then Herbstreet may as well get his dream of an All-SEC tournament, irregardless of struggling SEC teams losing games they weren’t supposed to by big margins…
I can honestly tell you that if a Mich/Iowa/Wisc/JMU type played the same schedule with the same results, they wouldn't belong in the playoff either.Don’t even start on that BS concept. Every conference, including the mighty SEC, has one-or-two teams at the top and then a bunch of MID. IU played in a Power 4 conference and the only game that they lost all season was at tO$U (same team that seal-clubbed Tennessee) and was within seconds of being tied at halftime. Notre Dame is a good team. That’s why they were favored to win. If you can get past the “Indiana” on the uniform and honestly tell me that if, say, a Michigan/Iowa/Wisconsin-type had played the same schedule and had the #2 scoring margin in the nation at over 23pts, you wouldn’t think they deserved to be in the CFP, then Herbstreet may as well get his dream of an All-SEC tournament, irregardless of struggling SEC teams losing games they weren’t supposed to by big margins…
Or even road games against the likes of Iowa, Illinois, Michigan, or Minnesota.I can honestly tell you that if a Mich/Iowa/Wisc/JMU type played the same schedule with the same results, they wouldn't belong in the playoff either.
IU would not have been in the playoff if they had played PSU or Oregon to add to the pounding from tosu. It was simply scheduling luck that they didn't - and that means strength of schedule.
Considering what's happened in the best... It wouldn't have eliminated any blowouts.This year that would have made sense as it would have effectively eliminated the 4 blowout teams if we said 4 beat conf champs plus 4 at-larges.
Huh... So when Michigan played a weak schedule in 2023... They didn't belong?I can honestly tell you that if a Mich/Iowa/Wisc/JMU type played the same schedule with the same results, they wouldn't belong in the playoff either.
IU would not have been in the playoff if they had played PSU or Oregon to add to the pounding from tosu. It was simply scheduling luck that they didn't - and that means strength of schedule.
They beat tosu.Huh... So when Michigan played a weak schedule in 2023... They didn't belong?
Michigan beat two top ten teams in 2023 (@PSU and OSU). You can’t be seriously trying to equate IU’s resume this year to Michigan’s last year….Huh... So when Michigan played a weak schedule in 2023... They didn't belong?
You keep saying that… but Michigan beat bama last year in Ot and Washington beat Texas by 6. They were both incredible games and the championship game was a 1 score game until the 4th quarter. The year before we’re 6 and 1 point games in semis including an upset. The year before had an upset in the semis and the 3 seed won it all.Considering what's happened in the best... It wouldn't have eliminated any blowouts.
No one is cherry picking stats other than you. The average margin of victory in first round games for the 4 tea playoff was 17 points and 20 points in the championship. Blowouts were completely common. In fact, it was the most common outcome.You keep saying that… but Michigan beat bama last year in Ot and Washington beat Texas by 6. They were both incredible games and the championship game was a 1 score game until the 4th quarter. The year before we’re 6 and 1 point games in semis including an upset. The year before had an upset in the semis and the 3 seed won it all.
You are cherry picking stats to try to justify indiana’s embarrassing loss and maybe make you feel better contrary to what all the experts are saying and also overlooking facts.
Also the tv viewers on these games were way more than what it would be for regular bowls. Last year after the two CFP semis the next 4 averaged about 4.4M viewers. The 4 first round games this year averaged almost 11m. Viewers clearly didn’t care about the blowouts.
Despite the good reviews, I wouldn’t mind seeing it dropped to 8 or 10 teams, preferably the latter with 2 first round byes to the SEC and B10 winners. The fact Arizona state and Boise state got a bye is ridiculous.