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IU did not deserve to be in CFP. Great article by USA Today

Not “everyone.” And IU didn’t “only” lose by ten. They just plain lost by ten; 27-17.

They also won 11 games and had an extraordinary season. Those writers and his coaching peers overwhelming voted him as national coach of the year. I think he’d sleep just fine knowing that your opinion of him matters… to you.

And then he’ll be up at 4:30 am to work towards making it happen again next year. It’s no fluke and it’s no accident that the man and his staff win,
Oh my apologies. I guess just the group of IU fans I watched the game with. They were literally pissed by his coaching and gutless calls the entire game saying how different it was. Then again they probably arent on the Purdue board after midnight still seeking validation.
 
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12 is too many as evidenced by this weekend. 16 would be worse.
So then 68 is clearly way too many for college basketball right? Can't be having blowouts in the first round anymore. Are you sure 4 isn't too many? Considering the amount of blowouts in the first round of the 4 team playoff? Maybe 2 is too many. Can't have any blowouts in the national championship game right, so let's just pick the champion without playing the game.
 
It could be that none of them deserve to be in. By the results this past weekend that seems like a valid assertion. 12 is too many.
Since you're just soooooo worried about blowouts...

4 team playoff first round- 17.9 average point margin
4 team title game- 20.1

BCS title- 14.6

Bowl Coalition title- 10

Bowl Alliance title- 31.7

It's almost like blowouts are kinda just the norm 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
 
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Since you're just soooooo worried about blowouts...

4 team playoff first round- 17.9 average point margin
4 team title game- 20.1

BCS title- 14.6

Bowl Coalition title- 10

Bowl Alliance title- 31.7

It's almost like blowouts are kinda just the norm 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
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Na you and he are obsessed with how much time you spend here begging for our approval. Most would get what I meant since it has been mentioned many times, but you being not the sharpest bulb has to have it explained to you it seems.

Double derp.
No one is begging for the commies approval.
 
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Since you're just soooooo worried about blowouts...

4 team playoff first round- 17.9 average point margin
4 team title game- 20.1

BCS title- 14.6

Bowl Coalition title- 10

Bowl Alliance title- 31.7

It's almost like blowouts are kinda just the norm 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
I'm against unnecessary blowouts. I'm for giving power conference champions a shot. If blowouts occur there, so be it. I don't need or want to see the fourth best team from any conference blown out.

You can argue this any way you want. The facts remains that IU paid to ensure a weak schedule, was beaten soundly in their only game of consequence, and was wrongly awarded a playoff spot. The result supports that. Your justifications don't matter.
 
I'm against unnecessary blowouts. I'm for giving power conference champions a shot. If blowouts occur there, so be it. I don't need or want to see the fourth best team from any conference blown out.

You can argue this any way you want. The facts remains that IU paid to ensure a weak schedule, was beaten soundly in their only game of consequence, and was wrongly awarded a playoff spot. The result supports that. Your justifications don't matter.
The “facts” were weighed by a national committee of experts who found them worthy of inclusion in the CFP. As the ninth best team in the nation and the ten seed. That “wrongly” characterization is your… opinion. And that’s all good. Message boards are great for opinions!

We can argue it anyway we want— they went 11-1, got in the playoffs, and then lost 27-17. Simply incredible and incredibly successful.

Merry Christmas to all!
 
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I'm against unnecessary blowouts. I'm for giving power conference champions a shot. If blowouts occur there, so be it. I don't need or want to see the fourth best team from any conference blown out.

You can argue this any way you want. The facts remains that IU paid to ensure a weak schedule, was beaten soundly in their only game of consequence, and was wrongly awarded a playoff spot. The result supports that. Your justifications don't matter.
They paid to have 3 wins. Hey still played 9 conference games. It just happens that Nebraska fell off after the IU game, Northwestern, Maryland, Michigan, Washington all fell off from last season. Indiana has no power there but they took care of business and blew the doors off everyone on the schedule besides Michigan and Ohio State. Indiana without a doubt deserved where they got to by doing what the teams behind them couldn't do, WIN.
 
He coached scared against ND.
IU won 11 games. So they got in. You can argue that. I know the Alabama fans are pissed because of the eye test. Which is how selections were made in the past. The media has to stop complaining because their favorite blue blood didn’t get selected. And there is no way to compare schedules without deep analysis which was the computer model we didn’t like either. So there is bias and the human element.
 
I think people greatly undervalue home field advantage. All of the home teams won. Say the game is at Clemson... Could have gone way different. Clemson had a shot. Game is in Bloomington? Could be different. Game is in Texas instead of Pennsylvania? Could be different. Game is in Knoxville? Definitely a lot different. And as far as the Top 8 go, Tennessee and Indiana were #7 and #8 in the Playoff Rankings. They happened to be moved down to the 9 and 10 seed(ranking and seeds are different things) because of Boise State and Arizona State getting byes.
You’re delusional if you thought indiana had a chance to beat ND in Bloomington. They were completely mismatched. Home field is an advantage but it’s 2.5-3 points. The home team won each game because they were the better team. And it wasn’t even close.
 
The “facts” were weighed by a national committee of experts who found them worthy of inclusion in the CFP. As the ninth best team in the nation and the ten seed. That “wrongly” characterization is your… opinion. And that’s all good. Message boards are great for opinions!

We can argue it anyway we want— they went 11-1, got in the playoffs, and then lost 27-17. Simply incredible and incredibly successful.

Merry Christmas to all!
It was a good season for them, but at the end of the day they didn't beat anyone good. Wouldn't trade that whole season for any of our top 5 upsets under Brohm. Hopefully Odom will bring back respectability. You should hope IU didn't make the same mistake with Cignetti they did with Allen after 2020.
 
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They paid to have 3 wins. Hey still played 9 conference games. It just happens that Nebraska fell off after the IU game, Northwestern, Maryland, Michigan, Washington all fell off from last season. Indiana has no power there but they took care of business and blew the doors off everyone on the schedule besides Michigan and Ohio State. Indiana without a doubt deserved where they got to by doing what the teams behind them couldn't do, WIN.
Glad you think so. Many disagree and criteria will likely change going forward based on what IU did this season. It is funny to me that nobody could see this coming with 18 team conferences now a thing. There is probably going to be a B1G or SEC team every year that dodges most of the top teams at the top of the conference. Then the formula is simply to be a better than average team and schedule yourself wins out of conference. Of courses TV won't like that and things will change because of the money. But kudos to IU for being in the right place at the right time.
 
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IU won 11 games. So they got in. You can argue that. I know the Alabama fans are pissed because of the eye test. Which is how selections were made in the past. The media has to stop complaining because their favorite blue blood didn’t get selected. And there is no way to compare schedules without deep analysis which was the computer model we didn’t like either. So there is bias and the human element.
Yeah I can. I have.

And for the record I don't think Alabama should be in either. No more than two from any conference. Alabama was not a top two in the SEC and IU was not top two in the Big Ten. Neither was Penn State for that matter. Should be 8 teams with all power conference champs, top G5 champ, and three at large with no more than one at large from any conference.
 
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You’re delusional if you thought indiana had a chance to beat ND in Bloomington. They were completely mismatched. Home field is an advantage but it’s 2.5-3 points. The home team won each game because they were the better team. And it wasn’t even close.
Yes, I believe all but probably SMU would have better chances at home. Especially Tennessee and Clemson. A home crowd helps a ton.
 
Glad you think so. Many disagree and criteria will likely change going forward based on what IU did this season. It is funny to me that nobody could see this coming with 18 team conferences now a thing. There is probably going to be a B1G or SEC team every year that dodges most of the top teams at the top of the conference. Then the formula is simply to be a better than average team and schedule yourself wins out of conference. Of courses TV won't like that and things will change because of the money. But kudos to IU for being in the right place at the right time.
I just don't see any reason for any Big Ten team to schedule an extra big game out of conference. A team like Alabama may schedule a Wisconsin but that's essentially just a 9th conference game and the other 3 are gimme games.
 
Since you're just soooooo worried about blowouts...

4 team playoff first round- 17.9 average point margin
4 team title game- 20.1

BCS title- 14.6

Bowl Coalition title- 10

Bowl Alliance title- 31.7

It's almost like blowouts are kinda just the norm 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️
The norm is only a few haves and a whole bunch of have nots. Lots of lousy games and many fans will lose interest. Count me as one of them.
 
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So we need........more of them?
You're wasting your time trying to reason with facts to the Indinia fans. It's like trying to explain Physics to your toddler... sure they look at you like they understand or are interested, but reality they just sit their drooling on themselves while they try not to crap their pants.

Exact same thing when engaging with Indinia fans except with the addition of most them likely wearing clown pants.
 
So we need........more of them?
Not necessarily -- it's a sliding scale with subjectivity no matter how many are selected. Last year? FSU was the lightning rod for unfair treatment. If someone is an SEC all-in fan? Then this year's oversight was Bama or maybe S. Carolina.

Unlike basketball, I think that 16 teams is the limit- hard to add too many games to the schedule with 20 year olds crashing into each other for so many games.

If you prefer the 'old-old system' of no national championship series; simply let teams get bowl game invites and let the voters determine the #1 team on January 2nd? That's valid too, though I prefer a 16 team tournament with five conference champs but no automatic byes for those champs.

To each his/her own.
 
You're wasting your time trying to reason with facts to the Indinia fans. It's like trying to explain Physics to your toddler... sure they look at you like they understand or are interested, but reality they just sit their drooling on themselves while they try not to crap their pants.

Exact same thing when engaging with Indinia fans except with the addition of most them likely wearing clown pants.
Post this and then compare others to toddlers and clowns? Seems ironic to me, but you go on being you.
 
Your response and how you 100% missed what I said proves my point better than I could have hoped.
No, I didn't miss anything and it did not prove any point. You deliberately and repeatedly spelled Indiana wrong, and then equated the entirety of over 1,000,000 alums, students, and in-state friends and relatives to drooling toddlers who don't understand, crap their pants, and dress like clowns.

That's not about a sports rivalry - that's unnecessary and does you no favors when/if you're trying to make a point in a thread about how many or which teams should be in the college playoff series.

See? I understand.
 
No, I didn't miss anything and it did not prove any point. You deliberately and repeatedly spelled Indiana wrong, and then equated the entirety of over 1,000,000 alums, students, and in-state friends and relatives to drooling toddlers who don't understand, crap their pants, and dress like clowns.

That's not about a sports rivalry - that's unnecessary and does you no favors when/if you're trying to make a point in a thread about how many or which teams should be in the college playoff series.

See? I understand.
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They jumped too far from going from 4 teams, which was too small, to 12 teams, which is showing to be too much. They should have moved from 4 to 8 teams and seen the results.

Unlike basketball, where you can have a 2 to 3 make a big difference, the big bloods in football have a full team of difference makers. There is a Grand Canyon of talent difference between the top 5 to 6 teams and everyone else in football. Indiana could play Notre Dame another 9 times this year and still not win a single game, if they won then it would be an upset. When it came down to talent this year, it was men against boys out there in the Indiana/ND game.
 
They jumped too far from going from 4 teams, which was too small, to 12 teams, which is showing to be too much. They should have moved from 4 to 8 teams and seen the results.

Unlike basketball, where you can have a 2 to 3 make a big difference, the big bloods in football have a full team of difference makers. There is a Grand Canyon of talent difference between the top 5 to 6 teams and everyone else in football. Indiana could play Notre Dame another 9 times this year and still not win a single game, if they won then it would be an upset. When it came down to talent this year, it was men against boys out there in the Indiana/ND game.
You make it seem like the 4 team playoff was super competitive. I'll give you a hint, it wasn't.
 
We’re being ridiculous.
Of Course they deserved to be in as an 11-1 (8-1) B1G team…
Accept your premise, BUT they also deserve total ridicule for playing some of the worst football I’ve ever seen and wasting their one shot (they wont be back). And it was against a suspect ND team that basically put their offense (Love) on the sidelines after the longest td run in playoff history to rest his knee.

Note: I would have said that IU crapped the bed, but that topic seems to have been well covered elsewhere on these threads
 
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