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IU did not deserve to be in CFP. Great article by USA Today

These pointless arguments are EXACTLY what the powers that be hoped for— the second they allowed anyone other than the major conference champs to participate in the CFP.

Spare me the abject nonsense about accommodating the Domaz- they are demonstrably beneath the level required to compete for a National Championship….

Making $$$$ is the ONLY reality driving the CFP playoff— people need to lose the fantasy that “deserving” or “competition “ matters nowadays!
No. They want foolish fans to continue to fork over more of their money and time. THAT is their objective.
 
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Not hard at all to argue against it from the perspective of earning a chance to play for a national championship. If you have no good wins during the season and you didn't win your conference, you shouldn't get in. IU pretty much just proves that.
And who was getting in over them? That's kinda the point. Alabama, Miami and Ole Miss screwed themselves. Miami is in with a win over Syracuse. Bama and Ole Miss are fighting for a spot if they don't lose to Kentucky and get destroyed by Oklahoma. Those teams sealed their own fates.
 
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And who was getting in over them? That's kinda the point. Alabama, Miami and Ole Miss screwed themselves. Miami is in with a win over Syracuse. Bama and Ole Miss are fighting for a spot if they don't lose to Kentucky and get destroyed by Oklahoma. Those teams sealed their own fates.
It could be that none of them deserve to be in. By the results this past weekend that seems like a valid assertion. 12 is too many.
 
Tennessee and Clemson didn’t deserve to be in the playoffs either! Tennessee was worse than IU. Tell herbstreet to shut up before he down grades a team for a poor performance!
Clemson was an automatic qualifier.

Also herbstreit didn’t say the terms did not deserve to go in and in fact said they did. What he said was instead of selecting the teams that did deserve to go they need to go with the best teams. He’s advocating for a change.
 
This. Huge drop off after the top 8.
Totally agree, but, similarly to most major college and professional sports, the trend is more teams involved means greater interest and certainly more $$$. Look for 16 teams sooner rather than later.
 
This. Huge drop off after the top 8.

I think people greatly undervalue home field advantage. All of the home teams won. Say the game is at Clemson... Could have gone way different. Clemson had a shot. Game is in Bloomington? Could be different. Game is in Texas instead of Pennsylvania? Could be different. Game is in Knoxville? Definitely a lot different. And as far as the Top 8 go, Tennessee and Indiana were #7 and #8 in the Playoff Rankings. They happened to be moved down to the 9 and 10 seed(ranking and seeds are different things) because of Boise State and Arizona State getting byes.
 
I think people greatly undervalue home field advantage. All of the home teams won. Say the game is at Clemson... Could have gone way different. Clemson had a shot. Game is in Bloomington? Could be different. Game is in Texas instead of Pennsylvania? Could be different. Game is in Knoxville? Definitely a lot different. And as far as the Top 8 go, Tennessee and Indiana were #7 and #8 in the Playoff Rankings. They happened to be moved down to the 9 and 10 seed(ranking and seeds are different things) because of Boise State and Arizona State getting byes.
na.. they just overvalued IU and SMU.
 
Game is in Bloomington? Could be different.
I agree there is an advantage to home field, statistically about 3 points for evenly matched teams (varies by source from 2.5-3.5 points). So the reality of Friday night in Bloomington vs south bend is 27-6 vs 27-3, and the eye test is the same IU shrunk from the spotlight of big games this season.

And seeding matters, want home field advantage? Then earn it by actually playing tough teams, especially non-conference and winning - and yes I get that the Domers scheduling is suspect as well, and they get all the breaks, which is why even as Purdue fans we would have been fine with IU embarrassing them at home. Instead you wrote another chapter in their “greatness” until they get crushed by 60 against Georgia
 
I agree there is an advantage to home field, statistically about 3 points for evenly matched teams (varies by source from 2.5-3.5 points). So the reality of Friday night in Bloomington vs south bend is 27-6 vs 27-3, and the eye test is the same IU shrunk from the spotlight of big games this season.

And seeding matters, want home field advantage? Then earn it by actually playing tough teams, especially non-conference and winning - and yes I get that the Domers scheduling is suspect as well, and they get all the breaks, which is why even as Purdue fans we would have been fine with IU embarrassing them at home. Instead you wrote another chapter in their “greatness” until they get crushed by 60 against Georgia
They say 3 points but you just don't really know. I think Indiana puts up a better fight just through pure adrenaline in a packed house. Tennessee definitely does. You're flipping from 80,000+ Ohio State fans to 80,000 Tennessee fans. That's huge. SMU was the biggest difference. It was 38-3 at one point. I mean I don't think Indiana wins either way, but even a 3 point difference is 24-20 and maybe that is in a different way than it was at ND. Teams will see how important it is to not just make the CFP, but get home field advantage.

As far as Georgia, I think Indiana would have been fine. Georgias offense is very suspect. Good defense as usual and a ton of talent but on a neutral field I think Indiana would be fine. I do think Notre Dame is looking like the favorite over Georgia.
 
As far as Georgia, I think Indiana would have been fine. Georgias offense is very suspect. Good defense as usual and a ton of talent but on a neutral field I think Indiana would be fine. I do think Notre Dame is looking like the favorite over Georgia.
I know you’re not used to seeing winning football, and you’re riding high from a miracle season (enjoy it). However, this claim is like Delaware declaring they’re a better basketball state than Indiana.

I watched Friday night, and you had no weapons on offense, were poorly coached with no halftime adjustments (he also gave up on his team with 6 minutes left), and your run defense that was supposed to be a strength that Notre Dame ran over you all night with their 2nd and 3rd string rbs while resting their starting rb’s knee. None of that changes in Bloomington.
 
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Looks like Paul Finebaum is not a big fan of IU Coach Cignetti. This is my favorite quote of the article.

“It just bothered me to hear Curt Cignetti running his mouth talking like he’s actually done something,” Finebaum said.

Paul Finebaum isn't a fan of anyone outside the SEC. The man gets paid to get on his knees for the conference.
 
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Good lord I’ve never seen a fanbase seek validation as much as this one even after getting their doors blown off. IU wasn’t on the same level. Everyone who watched the game knew that in the first 10 min. Finebuam isn’t the only one saying this. Herbstreit said it, USA Today, etc. We aren’t going out on some crazy limb here saying IU didn’t belong. You got in cause your schedule was a joke. Plain and simple. If you didn’t back out of playing Lville we likely aren’t even having this conversation as it’s not a given IU would’ve won. Congrats on the successful season and taking advantage of a crap schedule where any other year you’re prob looking at an 8-4 or 9-3 team. Enjoy it because the committee will ensure no matter how many CYO cadet teams you schedule it’ll never happen again.
 
A lot more basketball teams than football.
There 364 D1 teams. 68 teams make the tourney. That's 18.7% of teams. There 134 FBS teams. 12 make the playoff. That's 9%. Just to match what CBB does, you'd need 25 teams. So asking for 16 teams isn't some crazy stretch or too many teams. Just creates more parity.
 
These pointless arguments are EXACTLY what the powers that be hoped for— the second they allowed anyone other than the major conference champs to participate in the CFP.

Spare me the abject nonsense about accommodating the Domaz- they are demonstrably beneath the level required to compete for a National Championship….

Making $$$$ is the ONLY reality driving the CFP playoff— people need to lose the fantasy that “deserving” or “competition “ matters nowadays!
GIVE that MAN a KEWPIE DOLL!!!!!!!
 
Good lord I’ve never seen a fanbase seek validation as much as this one even after getting their doors blown off. IU wasn’t on the same level. Everyone who watched the game knew that in the first 10 min. Finebuam isn’t the only one saying this. Herbstreit said it, USA Today, etc. We aren’t going out on some crazy limb here saying IU didn’t belong. You got in cause your schedule was a joke. Plain and simple. If you didn’t back out of playing Lville we likely aren’t even having this conversation as it’s not a given IU would’ve won. Congrats on the successful season and taking advantage of a crap schedule where any other year you’re prob looking at an 8-4 or 9-3 team. Enjoy it because the committee will ensure no matter how many CYO cadet teams you schedule it’ll never happen again.
Good lord I’ve never seen such mental gymnastics to try to downplay the achievements of a team that went 11-1 in the second best conference in the country and then lost by 27-17 on the road in the college football playoffs. And got outgained by a total of 115 yards.

*”but the 4th quarter doesn’t count in football!”*

*” but but but IU kept TRYING HARD until the final whistle! No fair!!”*


Got their “doors blown off?”
It’s not as if they lost 66-0 and went against the opponent 2nd stringers the entire 4th quarter.

ND was the better team—fair and square. It was a solid win for ND and it was a ten point loss for IU. Period.
 
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Hate IU as much as the next guy, but 11-1 in P4 leads me to believe they are one of the top 12 teams in the country. If we went 11-1 with that same schedule we'd be saying the same thing.
Agree! As much as I detest IU...they deserved to go...I think most would agree if we played that schedule and went 11-1 and didn't get a bid.....everyone would be bit#$$$....the stars aligned scheduling for them....they played Mich and won who beat OSU....just a fluke yr that Mich had a downer yr...we got a break 2 yrs ago and made the conf championship game in a down West div....but one thing is for sure...moving forward...nonconf scheduling and who you play should be a factor.
 
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There 364 D1 teams. 68 teams make the tourney. That's 18.7% of teams. There 134 FBS teams. 12 make the playoff. That's 9%. Just to match what CBB does, you'd need 25 teams. So asking for 16 teams isn't some crazy stretch or too many teams. Just creates more parity.
12 is too many as evidenced by this weekend. 16 would be worse.
 
Louisville only lost by 7 at Notre Dame this year.

There's a reason IU paid a bunch of money to avoid playing at Louisville. They viewed it as a very likely loss.
Transitive doesn’t work. UL also lost to 3-7 Stanford. Teams are various shades of good to not good in different weeks.

The Tom Allen era cancelled it and yes, every game in that era was viewed as a likely loss.
 
Transitive doesn’t work. UL also lost to 3-7 Stanford. Teams are various shades of good to not good in different weeks.

The Tom Allen era cancelled it and yes, every game in that era was viewed as a likely loss.
Whatever the reason, they cancelled the game and opted to play a terrible non conference. A road win at Louisville would've been their best win. But they didn't want to play it because they thought they'd lose.
 
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Whatever the reason, they cancelled the game and opted to play a terrible non conference. A road win at Louisville would've been their best win. But they didn't want to play it because they thought they'd lose.
Tom Allen coached and scheduled scared?

You betcha.

Pretty sure Cig ain’t scared tho. He has clearly informed all that IU is an emerging superpower and betting against Curt Cignetti is bad idea.
 
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Tom Allen coached and scheduled scared?

You betcha.

Pretty sure Cig ain’t scared tho. He has clearly informed all that IU is an emerging superpower and betting against Curt Cignetti is bad idea.
Cig coach scared against ND. Knew he was overmatched and why every announcer and everyone watching the game asked why the f-ck he was punting late in the game down so much. Was going for the “we only lost by x narrative”.
 
Cig coach scared against ND. Knew he was overmatched and why every announcer and everyone watching the game asked why the f-ck he was punting late in the game down so much. Was going for the “we only lost by x narrative”.
Not “everyone.” And IU didn’t “only” lose by ten. They just plain lost by ten; 27-17.

They also won 11 games and had an extraordinary season. Those writers and his coaching peers overwhelming voted him as national coach of the year. I think he’d sleep just fine knowing that your opinion of him matters… to you.

And then he’ll be up at 4:30 am to work towards making it happen again next year. It’s no fluke and it’s no accident that the man and his staff win, win, win.
 
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