Herschel Walker: Ambassador to the Bahamas
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If that was true, companies would not be getting rid of DEI divisions and personnel. But they are because simply not needed as they were.
Shame on you for thinking you know better because you are prejudicing your current view with past history. Learn & grow.
DEI became a political tool used by the right to create a wedge for their advantage at the polls. Kamala never talked about DEI. But Trump, Elon, and the boys sure did.
DEI offices, when done correctly, actually serve to protect workers and students against potential bias.
If they are needed as you claim, then why have so many hundreds of companies disbanded them and fired all DEI personnel?
Given that she was a DEI pick, of course she didn't talk about it.
You don't think hiring involves a large element of subjectivity?
Have you ever hired anyone?
If you have 2 guys trying out for a wide receiver position, 1 black, 1 white. They're both 6'2, 210#, have the same experience level, same 40 time, same vertical, same shuttle time, same 225lb bench reps, But, there's only room for one more scholarship, who you giving it to?
Should the NBA have more white players?
Shocker. Kamala, who fit the requirement of being a (sort of) black woman that Joe stated was a requirement for his VP hire, doesn't talk about DEI?
Dude, no one is discriminating against white players in the NBA.
Of course subjectivity comes into play. But are you SERIOUSLY arguing it's that subjectivity, NOT racism or misogyny or a multitude of other biases, that's responsible for qualified minorities being passed over in favor of white people? wtf? Yeah, 150 years of racism isn't the reason. It's because the qualifications were close or identical and the white guy just happened to be the subjective choice..........over and over and over. Get a clue or admit the truth.
No, I was simply responding to your comment that seemed to be saying that subjectivity is not involved in hiring. SERIOUSLY.
@Boiler Buck Only in America is the term oriental considered racist. Someone several years ago in America decided this totally innocuous word was suddenly offensive. “A rug is Oriental, not a person!” And it stuck.
But, in other English speaking countries, it’s not offensive. Because…. it’s not offensive. An offensive word is a word that is either coined to be offensive or misused on purpose to be offensive. Oriental is neither. It means ‘eastern’. “Oooh, I’m so offended! You called that person whose background is eastern, eastern!”
Americans prefer to use the word “Asian” to refer to people of the Far East. But in the UK “Asian” means people from South Asia (Pakistan, India, Bangladesh). Oriental is used for the East Asia and Southeast Asia. And nobody is offended.
But these things aren’t limited to America. British people mistakenly think “Eskimo” is pejorative (because Canadian Inuit don’t like being called Eskimos anymore, even though they are, but Alaskan Eskimos do because they are and are not Inuit, but Iñupiat) and use “Inuit”. But if you want to insult an Alaskan Eskimo? Call him an Inuit. It’s the same as calling a Scot English.
Just like with “Oriental”, it’s not an insult. People just think it is out of ignorance or misdirected anger.
That's not what people on the right believe at all. You're just pulling shlt out of your azz. Nobody on the right cares the color of the skin of the person that is hired.
Don't come to us saying that you're only looking for someone of such and such race before making a hire.
1. Because by definition that's racist
2. By limiting your search by 90% or more, you're almost guaranteed to NOT find the best or most qualified candidate
3. You are continuing racism by performing acts of racism.
As Morgan Friedman once said. The only way to get rid of racism is to stop talking about it. DEI puts a huge FUKKING spotlight on racism.
We have laws against racism and discrimination. It should be fought against in the court of law wherever it exists. Other than that, we need to STFU about it and hire the BEST candidate no matter the race.
It's people like you that are conditioned to believe that people on the right think (insert leftist narrative of people on the right). The only proof needed is the fact that you consistently get wrong what people on the right actually think.
I've gone round and round with you on similar topics over the years and can't actually believe that I'm wasting my time here because you're so GD brainwashed that you always ignore everything I show you, no matter how solid the evidence is backing my position.
How do you know? Their representation in the NBA isn't the same as the population. That MUST mean they are being discriminated against.
Don't give me this crap that because of the number of whites in the NBA is lower than blacks it’s because of racism. Particularly with 99% of the NBA owners ann GMs are white.
JFC, did this just go right over your head or what? I was trying to give you some self awareness, but you completely missed it.
Yes, I am arguing that it's subjectivity, not racism. There's lots of reasons why a person might not get a job. "Biases", as you state it, can be any number of things, most importantly, "how does this hire represent me, our company and how we are perceived by our customers. Is this person going to help us or hurt us? Do I trust them?"
Indian...Native American.....whatever. If someone gets offended, that's their problem.
