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I'm a Painter supporter....but what if

8-8 in the NCAA tournament if I'm not mistaken. Average.

Above average regular season. Average NCAA tournament. I grade that out to above average overall.

How many times has he beaten a higher seed?
How many times has he lost to a lower seed?
Now your 'average' doesn't seem so good.

But that's beside the point. After 11 years, you being happy with an average to slightly above average coach tells me something.
 
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How many times has he beaten a higher seed?
How many times has he lost to a lower seed?
Now your 'average' doesn't seem so good.

But that's beside the point. After 11 years, you being happy with an average to slightly above average coach tells me something.

I think he's a good coach and yea I'm happy with a good coach. If you want to weight the NCAA tournament as everything and refer to "average" as "bad" to get to where you want to be on the issue, do what you want. Frankly it doesn't matter. He's our coach whether a few losers here like it or not.
 
I think he's a good coach and yea I'm happy with a good coach. If you want to weight the NCAA tournament as everything and refer to "average" as "bad" to get to where you want to be on the issue, do what you want. Frankly it doesn't matter. He's our coach whether a few losers here like it or not.

I think he's a pretty decent X' and O's coach, not a very good tourney coach and an average recruiter. I don't like his use of point guards.

Will he win a NC at Purdue? I'm not sure, but if he doesn't bring in a stellar class this year, a FF or NC in the next 3 seems less likely. In 3 years, we'll be approaching the 15 year mark with MP. If he hasn't figured out how to make deep tourney runs by then, I'm not sure when he will.
 
How many times has he beaten a higher seed?
How many times has he lost to a lower seed?
Now your 'average' doesn't seem so good.

But that's beside the point. After 11 years, you being happy with an average to slightly above average coach tells me something.
Okay time to look at this from the bigger picture angle instead of a simple vacuum like you posted here. And I'll break it out in to separate points for easier reading:

- As said earlier, no change is going to be made until the football program is addressed.

- As long as Painter continues to have above average results overall no change is going to be made

- As long as crowds continue to fill the seats no change is going to be made

- Constantly regurgitating the same statements over and over again, from either side, is not going to facilitate a change and is more or less about internet bravado at this point

- People can jump off the ledge all they want when a recruit is missed out on, as long as the results mentioned above then no change is going to be made

Basically, as long as the program isn't in the tank no change is going to be made so how about we just all get behind the team from the top down and end this circle arguing? I mean if opinions haven't changed by now, they never will so what is the point of continually posting them? I know, boilersallthewaynow your forum police siren went off because that can be perceived as me telling people how to post, but seriously this is all just getting old.
 
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Okay time to look at this from the bigger picture angle instead of a simple vacuum like you posted here. And I'll break it out in to separate points for easier reading:

- As said earlier, no change is going to be made until the football program is addressed.

- As long as Painter continues to have above average results overall no change is going to be made

- As long as crowds continue to fill the seats no change is going to be made

- Constantly regurgitating the same statements over and over again, from either side, is not going to facilitate a change and is more or less about internet bravado at this point

- People can jump off the ledge all they want when a recruit is missed out on, as long as the results mentioned above then no change is going to be made

Basically, as long as the program isn't in the tank no change is going to be made so how about we just all get behind the team from the top down and end this circle arguing? I mean if opinions haven't changed by now, they never will so what is the point of continually posting them? I know, boilersallthewaynow your forum police siren went off because that can be perceived as me telling people how to post, but seriously this is all just getting old.
OTOH what have most of us to do when we can't talk about football in the fall???
 
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Painter is average at best whether you like it or not.

You've got yourself convinced. I believe that. You and the random people you walk up to all over the country and ask them if they think the Purdue basketball coach is average or not.
 
http://www.purduesports.com/sports/m-baskbl/spec-rel/082616aaa.html

In 11 seasons at the Purdue helm, Painter has compiled a 238-134 (.640) record with eight NCAA Tournament appearances, a Big Ten regular-season title and a Big Ten Tournament title. The third all-time winningest coach in Purdue history is one of just six coaches in league history to be named Big Ten Coach of the Year three times, joining Gene Keady, Bobby Knight, Bo Ryan, Tom Izzo and Thad Matta on the chart.

Over the last 10 seasons, Purdue’s 229 total wins rank fourth in the Big Ten, while the eight tournament berths are the third most in the Big Ten during that timeframe, averaging almost 23 wins a season.

Painter enters the 2016-17 season third on the school’s all-time wins list (238), behind legendary mentors Keady and Ward “Piggy” Lambert. At age 45, Painter already ranks 18th on the all-time Big Ten wins list.

Last year’s squad posted a 26-9 record, finishing the year with the sixth-most victories in school history. The Boilermakers were 1-of-11 schools nationally to be ranked in the Associated Press Top 25 poll all season long. This year’s Boilermakers are expected to be ranked among the nation’s elite when the preseason polls come out in November.


They and several others had higher winning percentages
 
I agree average but where I disagree is above average. Tournament time he's below average and I know somebody put on here he is 8 and 8 you have to count the years he didn't make the tournament either that counts as a loss.

Over the last ten years he is 3rd in the Big Ten in making the tournament according to what I posted earlier so he is upper half in that metric.
 
Honestly in my book that should count as two losses . Now I'll give him a pass the first 3 year's and I give you one up on that I only count the good the first three years. I will support Matt painter 3 more seasons if he hasn't done anything by then then I'm done. Just a Purdue fan that wants to see more in the tournament. You guys can hate me for that can you. I hope Matt Painter proves me wrong I really do.
 
The point is, if you are going to come to a place and post rambling negatives about a coach that most people respect, you could at least use proper grammar in doing so. When you post the way that you do and fail to use basic grammar that you should have learned in elementary school, you are immediately telling us not to take you seriously. It would be like showing up for a job interview at a law firm wearing sweat pants and a t-shirt. In short, if you want the respect (because frankly those that don't agree with you would still respect your opinions most of the time if you did so in a fashion that didn't scream toothless idiot), use facts and common sense of the English language.
I don't know what post you're referring to, because I have that troll on ignore. I suggest you do likewise, friend.
 
You tell 'em fella. Why if this board weren't the personal property of Kesselschmuck, Boiledsteel,Dakotagirlie and of course yourself , hell there just wouldn't be any reason for this forum to exist.
Please do tell the rest of us low life's ,
How to think
What to say
What religion should we practice
How should we vote
What should I believe in
What is my favorite color
Does God really exist

You egomaniacs make me sick
Pompous
Know it all
Self righteous


Let people express their own thoughts
We don't owe you "people" SHIT !

If the above rings any bells with you "people"it's because that is exactly what you sound like.

The rest of you please do keep posting. You don't owe those poor excuses a thing.
I have never demanded a thing from you or anyone else on here. Never stopped you from saying a thing. Just disagreed with you. Apparently that's not OK with you. Meanwhile you just did what you are acusing me of doing. I will post as I please, including stating when I disagree with someone else. You are welcome to retort as you wish. Never said you or anyone else couldn't.
Regarding your request for direction in life...if you insist...but remember it will be pompous and arrogant just to make you happy.
"How to think": I don't think you can be helped.
"What to say": Does it matter?
"What religion should we practice": I don't care which, but practice it more because it hasn't taken.
"How should we vote": There are no winners on this topic.
"What should I believe in": Believe in yourself enough that my opinion is not so offensive to you.
"What is my favorite color": Duh...Old Gold and Black.
"Does God really exist": I don't know. But that's where faith comes in to play.
 
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It's kind of silly for you to question my pride in Purdue since you don't know me other than what I post on an anonymous message board.
That being said, the reason I'm critical of certain things is that I expect and want Purdue to be better than average or good periodically. It upsets me when I hear 'fans' making excuses for why Purdue can't be great, why Purdue can't compete or why some athletes don't sign with Purdue. In my professional life, making excuses gets you fired. People don't want excuses they want results. There are expectations and then accountability.
Purdue has all the financial resources it needs; it's the commitment and belief from the BOD and administrators that's lacking.
I personally do not consider my favorite athletic teams to be anywhere near as important as my work. This is why I am not as concerned about where our basketball program is at present. I agree that the BOD and Pres have want more success and commit more to it to do better. I do think football is below what I consider acceptable but again, I'll survive it.
 
If Painter got on the hot seat for just this class, you are correct, it would be a total knee-jerk reaction. But it is not the only time this has happened. It's happened before, again and again. Brandon Dawson and Gary Harris come to mind with many other whiffs. The shooting guard from Indy now at Xavier also just came to my mind. Is it knee-jerk when we can't out-recruit Xavier? How about that player (can't remember his first name) Goodwin? Did you see the list of schools still on his list after he cut Purdue out? God, that's embarrassing.

Also, we're talking about a coach who hasn't won an NCAA game in four years, including DEAD LAST in the Big Ten three years ago. So when we're talking four years, that's hardly a knee-jerk reaction.

I stay with my prediction TC, if Painter whiffs on the (some guy said it above) top 5-ish Indiana kids and top-tier other kids, Painter won't be here in 2020.


I have been saying this for a couple years now and everyone tells me to basically shove it, as they go back drinking their kool-aid. As I mentioned earlier we were the second choice for both Haas and Biggie.
Remember you are dealing with a bunch of "Spinmiesters" that are drunk on punch.
 
I have been saying this for a couple years now and everyone tells me to basically shove it, as they go back drinking their kool-aid. As I mentioned earlier we were the second choice for both Haas and Biggie.
Remember you are dealing with a bunch of "Spinmiesters" that are drunk on punch.
You get told to shove it because what you said here is a gigantically stupid statement. Biggie could of gone to MSU if he wanted but no matter how you want to spin it, he picked us over them. So yeah, shove it.
 
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I have been saying this for a couple years now and everyone tells me to basically shove it, as they go back drinking their kool-aid. As I mentioned earlier we were the second choice for both Haas and Biggie.
Remember you are dealing with a bunch of "Spinmiesters" that are drunk on punch.
Then you must give painter credit for "landing" Willis and walker?
 
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I have been saying this for a couple years now and everyone tells me to basically shove it, as they go back drinking their kool-aid. As I mentioned earlier we were the second choice for both Haas and Biggie.
Remember you are dealing with a bunch of "Spinmiesters" that are drunk on punch.

Shove it.
 
I have been saying this for a couple years now and everyone tells me to basically shove it, as they go back drinking their kool-aid. As I mentioned earlier we were the second choice for both Haas and Biggie.
Remember you are dealing with a bunch of "Spinmiesters" that are drunk on punch.
What? How does being the school of choice come out to be "second Choice"? That makes no sense. Haas and Biggie both said no to their "second choices" Wake & MSU, and chose Purdue - their FIRST CHOICE.

Almost every top pick has several closely competing schools after them. That's a fact, unless they declare very early on where they are going. It is obvious you don't follow the recruiting at other schools at all or you would have seen similar drama at the blue bloods over the past few years as kids switch their choices, and switch again at the last minute.

I don't drink any Kool-Aid. However, I suggest you open your eyes to how college basketball recruiting really functions, and stop being such an morose Eeyore about your school.

:cool:
 
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