If IU pulls off this class of Sisley/ Mullins/Haralson/Reibe.....
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Lolz. They’ll have to figure out how to spread out those mins or else ppl going to be mad about their PT
Sure you can. IU wouldn't be getting these guys for coaching or because of the program. They would be getting these guys because they are paying them, hence the mercenary NIL program.
Edit: Ah I see what you meant. Initially thought you were an IU fan arguing IU wasn't a mercenary program. because they recruit freshman. I agree with your sentiment while also maintaining that IU is a mercenary program that only gets anyone because they pay players.
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It’s not just NIL. Guys like Mullins won’t stick around if they’re not playing.
I don’t pretend to know how much they are paying for NIL but I thought I heard they had an $8m budget and already gave some of their vets $400k and some of their other transfers $800k so probably can’t afford to give each of these guys $1m+. There just aren’t enough minutes to go around too. So if they get these guys it probably means renau and Mgbako aren’t coming back (*and tucker). I also would expect if Haralson goes there Rice will leave.
I understand that CMP does not use the mercenary approach. Any speculation on how much our mercenary money bag would be if......
1. He sees the writing on the wall, is the last power-5 coach to 'hold out', and starts doing it.
2. CMP retires and the new HC does the mercenary thing.
I guess every one of their fans must be double mortgaging their double wide trailers.
Mack is projected first round pick but has to show he can actually guard and show quickness. Not much explosiveness with him.
Malik isn’t projected anywhere yet to the NBA…but I suppose he could always transfer. He has a lot to improve —shooting outside 8 ft, free throw %, moving his feet and standing straight up and not fouling so damn much (he has 4+ fouls A LOT).
Agreed on the not enough mins to go around. Will be interested to see how woody deals with that this year.
Uhh... Pretty easy really. I mean, everyone in the team is gonna end up getting paid. A chunk of your team is made up of guys you recruited out of HS and the other is from the portal that can fill holes.
Malik Reneau, Trey Galloway, Mackenzie Mgbako, Gabe Cupps, Anthony Leal, Jakai Newton, Bryce Tucker were high school recruits.
Myles Rice, Kanaan Carlyle, Luke Goode, Oumar Ballo, Langdon Hatton, Dallas James are portal guys.
So it's split at 7 and 6 for this upcoming season. And Leal, Hatton and James probably won't get huge run. Leal will get spots. Cupps will get his spots. Hard to say on Newton. But the hope is Cupps and Newton see it out for their time. All you can do in the portal age.
Malik Reneau, Trey Galloway, Mackenzie Mgbako, Gabe Cupps, Anthony Leal, Jakai Newton, Bryce Tucker were high school recruits.
Myles Rice, Kanaan Carlyle, Luke Goode, Oumar Ballo, Langdon Hatton, Dallas James are portal guys.
So it's split at 7 and 6 for this upcoming season. And Leal, Hatton and James probably won't get huge run. Leal will get spots. Cupps will get his spots. Hard to say on Newton. But the hope is Cupps and Newton see it out for their time. All you can do in the portal age.
it’s actually more complicated than that. With the rules changing the schools will have to pay direct soon. A lot of this ambiguity goes away and it becomes borderline contract. So the rumors gallo and most of the existing players getting $300k-$800k each, with transfers rumored to get $800k-$1m, with some of the recruits getting rumored at $1m+ it’s going to blow up. Typically places of employment it’s the opposite, as is the case at Purdue, tenured employees who were loyal get the most, proven transfers get medium, and new recruits need to prove themselves and get the minimum. It’s hard enough to manage expectations for minutes let alone a split of the pot of money
Well Indiana has the help of guy like Carl Cook and Mark Cuban. And will likely end up doing what Tennessee is doing by adding some sort of extra percentage to tickets that goes to players.
Cook gives a lot. He's an oddball if you've never met him, but the man knows his way around bowling lane equipment.
Not sure why Purdue fans care how or who another school recruits?
But if iu has same coach and program management.....does it matter anyway??
I guess I understand it if it's a recruit that Purdue also recruited and we lost the recruit to them because iu, or another school, had a better situation. But in a situation where recruits families are huge crazy fans of the school for generations....that is generally something we, or any school usually cannot compete against.
But if iu has same coach and program management.....does it matter anyway??
I guess I understand it if it's a recruit that Purdue also recruited and we lost the recruit to them because iu, or another school, had a better situation. But in a situation where recruits families are huge crazy fans of the school for generations....that is generally something we, or any school usually cannot compete against.
Trilly posted a ☘️ let’s see if he’s right about Haralson going to ND
HUGE GET FOR SHREWS. Good for him!
So marc Cuban is going to say to Rice hey you only got $800,000 to come here, and I just gave Haralson $1m to play over you. He’s done nothing and you were first team all PAC and picked up your life to come here. I’m going to make it right and force woody to give you minutes and double your salary? It’s just not going to work. This will backfire. I pay my employees well and they are grateful, until they find out the new guy is making more and then they leave or demand a sizable raise!
Think you missed the point of the post. If the house settlement agreement goes through somehow, all these outside donations to buy players will go away. Each school will just be limited to that 22 million to disperse among the school's athletes. Schools or collectives won't be able to just buy players anymore. So the point in your post will be moot.
Big time for Shrews. He will have ND respectable again.
I agree that there are gonna be nuances on how this plays out in the next few years. The challenge you outlined is clear as day. So you’re gonna be a Builder from high school kids or mercenaries. I’m sure there will be some in between but that’s how I see it shaking out.
Going to be a $hit storm because the NCAA is run by inept morons who have no clue what to do.
He ain’t retiring anytime soon . Having too much fun dominating the Loosiers.
I would not be surprised to see Reibe commit to UConn…great coach. Just coached a lottery pick center in the NBA.
I think this is the reason Haralson picked ND, look at IU team, last year a lack of guards, so they go out and buy some guards, but if you look at this years team, take away Ballo, they have no good centers. And all their centers and Power forwards could be gone, if Reneau and MagPuff move on to the g league their roster has no big men. Does Woody know how to build a team? NOPE
Disappointing to see Haralson go else where but I’ll take the ND pick over IU/MSU as a win win. He won’t be in the same conference and even better he won’t be playing for either of those other schools 👍🏼
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I’d say we need to get a regular series going with ND. Would be great to have a little in state rivalry going…wish we could add butler too…sorta like the Indy classic, but play both each year.
Yes! It would make a lot of sense to get local schools on the schedule but unfortunately it doesn’t happen much anymore. I thought the crossroad classic was good for the whole state but some school had to ruin that….
they will still be coached by Mike Woodson - so the end result is already defined.
I mean they had to NBA players on their team a couple years ago and they didn't do anything with that. I don't see how adding a bunch of even lesser talented mercs is going to give them better results than maybe making the tourney.
That is only for tv revenue shares. NIL isn’t going anywhere.
No.. the settlement as is, if approved, would bring in a clearinghouse so any nil deals would have to be approved as not being pay for play
That’s not hard to do. The settlement isn’t looking like it’s going to get passed in this form anyway. No way the courts will allow the cap. Collective bargaining is the only way.
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I mean.. yeah it’s not hard to do. But it would destroy collectives. Collectives generally don’t have a product to market that they can arguably say they are paying for advertising. Also, no reasonable person would say a basketball player in Bloomington, Indiana repping a shoe deal is worth over a million dollars. It should limit NIL to actual name, image, and likeness instead of playing time on a basketball court.
And as for likelihood. Yeah, potentially. The courts didn’t initially like the NIL restrictions because they were too restrictive. They’ve since adjusted the language, and we’re waiting to hear back.
To act like this settlement agreement isn’t a big deal is disingenuous. We’ve seen the president of Purdue’s board of trustees and now Painter mention how necessary the settlement is in an interview to provide guardrails. Those are just Purdue guys, but plenty of schools are waiting for this agreement to go through so the landscape can stay competitive.
they have the option to bring them(collectives)in house. Purdue hopes the guardrails happen. Too many things working against it. I doubt any court will let anything restricting NIL to happen. To many moving parts.
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