I have to laugh

[RFSNES]

Months ago I said Painter would go "0'fer" for the entire group of Players he was after. Painter gets visions of grandeur in his eye's and looses touch with reality....yes, we get lucky once in a while, but rarely. Look at our board, gone, gone, gone, gone and gone. I told you we better develop Taylor because he will be the only player over 6'5" on the Roster. So far I am right, our future is bleak at this point...we could be the only team in 2 years to have 9, 5th year seniors.

Maybe we can stock pile all of "17" and have 9 openings for "18" I can see it now JT and the 11 dwarfs.

I am mad at Painter for failing to build a "total" program, and recruiting is half of it. He has failed so far.......thank God for Girls VB.

 

[B-Westy]

Months ago I said Painter would go "0'fer" for the entire group of Players he was after. Painter gets visions of grandeur in his eye's and looses touch with reality....yes, we get lucky once in a while, but rarely. Look at our board, gone, gone, gone, gone and gone. I told you we better develop Taylor because he will be the only player over 6'5" on the Roster. So far I am right, our future is bleak at this point...we could be the only team in 2 years to have 9, 5th year seniors.

Maybe we can stock pile all of "17" and have 9 openings for "18" I can see it now JT and the 11 dwarfs.

I am mad at Painter for failing to build a "total" program, and recruiting is half of it. He has failed so far.......thank God for Girls VB.

You predicted that Purdue wouldn't land any good recruits? Woah dude, that is sooo sick. The lack of pride & faith you have in the team you root for is envious. It's so cool to root for your team to fail! Nice one!

 

[FLAG HUNTER]

good recruit to me means they play well , when on Purdue's team, not just in high school and team wins , getting someone ranked high doesn't always mean success, lets get some good players for 2017 ,who want to play for Purdue and see what happens before its said Painter failed.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

Months ago I said Painter would go "0'fer" for the entire group of Players he was after. Painter gets visions of grandeur in his eye's and looses touch with reality....yes, we get lucky once in a while, but rarely. Look at our board, gone, gone, gone, gone and gone. I told you we better develop Taylor because he will be the only player over 6'5" on the Roster. So far I am right, our future is bleak at this point...we could be the only team in 2 years to have 9, 5th year seniors.

Maybe we can stock pile all of "17" and have 9 openings for "18" I can see it now JT and the 11 dwarfs.

I am mad at Painter for failing to build a "total" program, and recruiting is half of it. He has failed so far.......thank God for Girls VB.

Currently, there are 6 players taller than 6'5 other than JT. Those include RS Jr Basil Smotherman, JR Vince Edwards, SO Ryan Cline, SO Grady Eifert, JR Isaac Haas, and SO Caleb Swanigan. At the core of your argument, your reasoning (if there every actually was any) is flawed. Of those 6 players, how many do you see leaving before their 4 years? Swanigan? So by your theory, that would leave the other 5 players...of which 2 would remain starters next season in Edwards and Haas. Cline, given improvement defensively could be a starter as well. That would still leave 3 starters during the 17-18 season beng 6'5 or taller...which doesn't include any other recruits coming in. I'll give you credit for an attempt at slamming CMP, but maybe trying to hang your hat on some solid evidence and research...then maybe you'd get some reasonable responses and discussion. I am confident that the point of your post was to troll.

 

[Beeazlebub]

"I have to laugh"

 

[RFSNES]

good recruit to me means they play well , when on Purdue's team, not just in high school and team wins , getting someone ranked high doesn't always mean success, lets get some good players for 2017 ,who want to play for Purdue and see what happens before its said Painter failed.

Well, let's get some...da

 

[mathboy]

Months ago I said Painter would go "0'fer" for the entire group of Players he was after. Painter gets visions of grandeur in his eye's and looses touch with reality....yes, we get lucky once in a while, but rarely. Look at our board, gone, gone, gone, gone and gone. I told you we better develop Taylor because he will be the only player over 6'5" on the Roster. So far I am right, our future is bleak at this point...we could be the only team in 2 years to have 9, 5th year seniors.

Maybe we can stock pile all of "17" and have 9 openings for "18" I can see it now JT and the 11 dwarfs.

I am mad at Painter for failing to build a "total" program, and recruiting is half of it. He has failed so far.......thank God for Girls VB.

Wow. We are so glad you were proven right. We get that you need the validation of us lesser minds that you were so right. I guess it is something you need to brag about. However, when you really think about the reasons for your post, it is sad, really.

We went up against a guy who was just put in the HOF. Hard to win those.

 

[FLAG HUNTER]

Well, let's get some...da

yeah I agree but gotta be patient, Painter will get some good players

 

[pboiler18]

Months ago I said Painter would go "0'fer" for the entire group of Players he was after. Painter gets visions of grandeur in his eye's and looses touch with reality....yes, we get lucky once in a while, but rarely. Look at our board, gone, gone, gone, gone and gone. I told you we better develop Taylor because he will be the only player over 6'5" on the Roster. So far I am right, our future is bleak at this point...we could be the only team in 2 years to have 9, 5th year seniors.

Maybe we can stock pile all of "17" and have 9 openings for "18" I can see it now JT and the 11 dwarfs.

I am mad at Painter for failing to build a "total" program, and recruiting is half of it. He has failed so far.......thank God for Girls VB.

It's alright.....we have to laugh at you too

 

[bonefish1]

good recruit to me means they play well , when on Purdue's team, not just in high school and team wins , getting someone ranked high doesn't always mean success, lets get some good players for 2017 ,who want to play for Purdue and see what happens before its said Painter failed.

Recruiting 'stars' and rankings absolutely matter. Sure, it's important that your 2 and 3 * guys develop while in the program, but it's not just by coincidence why the teams that consistently make the FF are also the one's with the top ranked recruiting classes.
And regarding players "who want to play for Purdue"? What exactly does that mean?

 

[FLAG HUNTER]

want to play for Purdue to me means you don't have to kiss their butt, hold their hand, don't take the offer cause its only one they have, and its not a toss up for them where they want to go compared to a few other schools, not gonna argue about something like this

 

[BoiledSteel]

Months ago I said Painter would go "0'fer" for the entire group of Players he was after. Painter gets visions of grandeur in his eye's and looses touch with reality....yes, we get lucky once in a while, but rarely. Look at our board, gone, gone, gone, gone and gone. I told you we better develop Taylor because he will be the only player over 6'5" on the Roster. So far I am right, our future is bleak at this point...we could be the only team in 2 years to have 9, 5th year seniors.

Maybe we can stock pile all of "17" and have 9 openings for "18" I can see it now JT and the 11 dwarfs.

I am mad at Painter for failing to build a "total" program, and recruiting is half of it. He has failed so far.......thank God for Girls VB.

I truly feel sorry for you. I mean anyone that has to have this much affirmation from an internet forum has some serious issues going on. Get well soon.

 

[DG10]

Wow. We are so glad you were proven right. We get that you need the validation of us lesser minds that you were so right. I guess it is something you need to brag about. However, when you really think about the reasons for your post, it is sad, really.

We went up against a guy who was just put in the HOF. Hard to win those.

Please quit using the excuse that he lost out because Izzo was just put in the HOF...he has lost in the past to Izzo, and he has lost out against numerous other coaches that are not in the HOF...Izzo being inducted into the HOF is not the issue, nor why Painter has repeatedly lost recruiting battles to/with him.

 

[DG10]

yeah I agree but gotta be patient, Painter will get some good players

Even if he does somehow manage to do so, he has already shown that he can't win with "good players"...for that matter, he has shown that he can't win big with better than good players.

Good players is not the answer unfortunately...not if you want to be great...that has been proven repeatedly at Purdue, and particularly so with Painter.

Painter has missed on every targeted recruit to date in this class...a class that he has been working on for years...a class for which he saved scholarships so as to have enough to fill it with the targets he had identified...a class that is as talented in-state as it maybe ever has been and for which he was a virtual non-factor...ultimately, just as his team did last year, he has laid an epic egg...good thing he got that contact extension though that totally ties the hands of the new AD.

 

[Kesselschmiede]

Even if he does somehow manage to do so, he has already shown that he can't win with "good players"...for that matter, he has shown that he can't win big with better than good players.

Such bullshit. His record with the Baby Boilers, last year, etc pretty much show he can win a you're just a friggin moron.

Good God some of you are just such clueless crybaby pansies.

 

[JohnHoosierr]

Even if he does somehow manage to do so, he has already shown that he can't win with "good players"...for that matter, he has shown that he can't win big with better than good players.

Good players is not the answer unfortunately...not if you want to be great...that has been proven repeatedly at Purdue, and particularly so with Painter.

Painter has missed on every targeted recruit to date in this class...a class that he has been working on for years...a class for which he saved scholarships so as to have enough to fill it with the targets he had identified...a class that is as talented in-state as it maybe ever has been and for which he was a virtual non-factor...ultimately, just as his team did last year, he has laid an epic egg...good thing he got that contact extension though that totally ties the hands of the new AD.

Ya i loved how Burke extended the contract of every coach he could before leaving essentially making our new ad useless for a few years. You know he wanted to extend hazell too but probably wasnt allowed to.

 

[DG10]

Such bullshit. His record with the Baby Boilers, last year, etc pretty much show he can win a you're just a friggin moron.

Good God some of you are just such clueless crybaby pansies.

No, the Baby Boilers were more than "good players"...all three that hung around moved on to the NBA...and, last year, with no doubt the deepest and most talented team collectively that Painter has had top to bottom, and one of the deepest and most talented that Purdue has ever had, he underachieved during the regular season and then laid an epic egg in the tournament...there were potentially four NBA guys on that roster, and he was not able to win with them.

He has failed with his best/most talented players, and he failed even more so with "good players"...as stated, getting good players is simply not good enough...almost never has been at Purdue, but absolutely has not been for Painter.

 

[RFSNES]

It's alright.....we have to laugh at you too

We all have to laugh at this point in time...

I truly feel sorry for you. I mean anyone that has to have this much affirmation from an internet forum has some serious issues going on. Get well soon.

Maybe you should listen next time instead of gulping your Kool-aid and bad mouthing me.....enjoy your Crow.

 

[Dryfly88]

Ya i loved how Burke extended the contract of every coach he could before leaving essentially making our new ad useless for a few years. You know he wanted to extend hazell too but probably wasnt allowed to.

I don't know why you and others keep saying that Burke extended CMP as if he did this on his own. Yet you say he probably wanted to extend Hazell but wasn't allowed to. Wasn't allowed to by whom? By the same people that did allow the extension of CMP (BOT, President ect...).

I know you don't like CMP or Burke, but at least be reasonable with your blame. You act as if Burke had the authority and the blank check to do whatever he wanted with coaches contracts. That is just ridiculous.

 

[RFSNES]

Such bullshit. His record with the Baby Boilers, last year, etc pretty much show he can win a you're just a friggin moron.

Good God some of you are just such clueless crybaby pansies.

WHAT DID THEY WIN w/4 NBA TARGETS...DA What baby boilers do you see down the road......I'm looking at the future...you are in the Past.

 

[RFSNES]

Such bullshit. His record with the Baby Boilers, last year, etc pretty much show he can win a you're just a friggin moron.

Good God some of you are just such clueless crybaby pansies.

I'm sorry...Little Rock got in the way

 

[JohnHoosierr]

I don't know why you and others keep saying that Burke extended CMP as if he did this on his own. Yet you say he probably wanted to extend Hazell but wasn't allowed to. Wasn't allowed to by whom? By the same people that did allow the extension of CMP (BOT, President ect...).

I know you don't like CMP or Burke, but at least be reasonable with your blame. You act as if Burke had the authority and the blank check to do whatever he wanted with coaches contracts. That is just ridiculous.

??? Have never said i don't like painter. He's a good coach and Purdue could do much worse than him. But with our resources and history i also think we could do better.

 

[BoiledSteel]

Maybe you should listen next time instead of gulping your Kool-aid and bad mouthing me.....enjoy your Crow.

Everything said about you still stands however and there is no crow to be had. That is just too funny of a statement anyway.

It's okay, I'm going to enjoy watching our top ranked team play this season and perform well and continue to have more and more success on the court even to your dismay.

As I said before, I hope you get well soon.

 

[BoiledSteel]

I'm sorry...Little Rock got in the way

I'm sorry our top ranking this season gets in the way of your statement.

 

[Dryfly88]

??? Have never said i don't like painter. He's a good coach and Purdue could do much worse than him. But with our resources and history i also think we could do better.

Fair enough.

Then could you clarify, do you think Burke had sole discretion on extending CMP contract? Or do you agree that this extension had to be ok'd by a number of people including the President and BOT?

You and others have repeatedly made the statement that Burke extended this contract as he was walking out the door. My contention is that couldn't be more wrong. There is no way Daniels and the BOT "let" Burke do this. They were in agreement with it or it couldn't happen. You can disagree with the extension, but blaming one person is wrong.

 

[smalltownIL]

No, the Baby Boilers were more than "good players"...all three that hung around moved on to the NBA...and, last year, with no doubt the deepest and most talented team collectively that Painter has had top to bottom, and one of the deepest and most talented that Purdue has ever had, he underachieved during the regular season and then laid an epic egg in the tournament...there were potentially four NBA guys on that roster, and he was not able to win with them.

He has failed with his best/most talented players, and he failed even more so with "good players"...as stated, getting good players is simply not good enough...almost never has been at Purdue, but absolutely has not been for Painter.

Exactly, I think his best teams were successful in spite of him, not because of him. And the failure to land even one of these targets for this year is an indictment of his recruiting "skills". I want Purdue to win and I think we've seen enough of Painter to know what the future will be. I thank him for the power play with Burke to get some $ allocated to the program. Now we need a competent recruiter and coach to utilize them.

 

[RFSNES]

You predicted that Purdue wouldn't land any good recruits? Woah dude, that is sooo sick. The lack of pride & faith you have in the team you root for is envious. It's so cool to root for your team to fail! Nice one!

Everything said about you still stands however and there is no crow to be had. That is just too funny of a statement anyway.

It's okay, I'm going to enjoy watching our top ranked team play this season and perform well and continue to have more and more success on the court even to your dismay.

As I said before, I hope you get well soon.

You might have 2, enjoy them......

 

[RFSNES]

I'm sorry our top ranking this season gets in the way of your statement.

I'm looking at building a program, not a blip on the screen.

 

[JohnHoosierr]

Fair enough.

Then could you clarify, do you think Burke had sole discretion on extending CMP contract? Or do you agree that this extension had to be ok'd by a number of people including the President and BOT?

You and others have repeatedly made the statement that Burke extended this contract as he was walking out the door. My contention is that couldn't be more wrong. There is no way Daniels and the BOT "let" Burke do this. They were in agreement with it or it couldn't happen. You can disagree with the extension, but blaming one person is wrong.

I have no idea who did ot didnt ok it. I do believe it was burkes idea though.

 

[Dryfly88]

Ya i loved how Burke extended the contract of every coach he could before leaving essentially making our new ad useless for a few years. You know he wanted to extend hazell too but probably wasnt allowed to.

I have no idea who did ot didnt ok it. I do believe it was burkes idea though.

If you have no idea then why did you say Burke? If you did even a quick Google search you would know that the Board of Trustees has to approve any of the coaches contracts. The President (AD's boss) obviously agrees. So bottom line, the leadership of the University is in favor of keeping CMP long term. You may not agree with that decision (I have some reservations myself) but to try and make it sound like the outgoing AD pulled a fast one on everybody is ridiculous.

https://purdue.rivals.com/news/matt-painter-s-contract-extension-now-official

 

[DG10]

If you have no idea then why did you say Burke? If you did even a quick Google search you would know that the Board of Trustees has to approve any of the coaches contracts. The President (AD's boss) obviously agrees. So bottom line, the leadership of the University is in favor of keeping CMP long term. You may not agree with that decision (I have some reservations myself) but to try and make it sound like the outgoing AD pulled a fast one on everybody is ridiculous.

https://purdue.rivals.com/news/matt-painter-s-contract-extension-now-official

There was no reason at all for Burke to have made the extension...your point is valid in that he was not able to do it solely on his own volition, but, he should not have been doing it at all and it was indeed initiated by him.

The President and BoT have proved themselves (over and over for that matter) to be disinterested at the least, incompetent at most, when it comes to Purdue athletices...getting their approval is hardly any ringing endorsement by any means...nor does it signify in any way their being in favor of keeping CMP long term.

If an extension was warranted...and that is an entirely different discussion and matter (and even more so in the case of Versyp)...it should have been the first order of business of the new AD, not the last order of business for the departing one...further, it tied the hands of the new AD, and I am confident that the leadership was not in favor of that.

Thus, say what you will, but while it may be inaccurate to insinuate that Burke pulled some sort of fast one in your opinion, it is equally inaccurate to suggest that he did it on the up and up as well, nor that it was something that needed to be done, never mind that the leadership wanted to be done (and done by Burke).

 

[Dryfly88]

There was no reason at all for Burke to have made the extension...your point is valid in that he was not able to do it solely on his own volition, but, he should not have been doing it at all and it was indeed initiated by him.

The President and BoT have proved themselves (over and over for that matter) to be disinterested at the least, incompetent at most, when it comes to Purdue athletices...getting their approval is hardly any ringing endorsement by any means...nor does it signify in any way their being in favor of keeping CMP long term.

If an extension was warranted...and that is an entirely different discussion and matter (and even more so in the case of Versyp)...it should have been the first order of business of the new AD, not the last order of business for the departing one...further, it tied the hands of the new AD, and I am confident that the leadership was not in favor of that.

Thus, say what you will, but while it may be inaccurate to insinuate that Burke pulled some sort of fast one in your opinion, it is equally inaccurate to suggest that he did it on the up and up as well, nor that it was something that needed to be done, never mind that the leadership wanted to be done (and done by Burke).

Do you somehow think Burke has power over the President and the BOT? If they didn't want to extend CMP then they would have voted no or not even let Burke get into those discussions with Painter. I wonder sometimes if you guys are involved in management at any level where you work. What do you think happened? Burke got this idea in his head that he wanted to extend CMP contract so he secretly met with Painter's rep and they knocked out a deal over a few cocktails. The next day Burke walks into Mitch's office and says "surprise I extended Matt for another few years".

Your argument makes no sense. In one sentence you are saying that you acknowledge the leadership of PU (BOT and President) were involved in this decision and then you say it wasn't done on the up and up. Which is it? Did Burke hold some clandestine meetings with Painter or was he negotiating with the blessing of leadership? Or is possible that the board doesn't own a calendar so they didn't realize that they were extending Matt for so many years?

Obviously you don't care for CMP or Burke. That is perfectly fine. But to twist this into some sort of conspiracy that Burke pulled off is just dumb. You want a different coach and you aren't going to get one for years and you're pissed about it. Fine, just don't make stuff up to fit your agenda. Nobody in their right mind believes that Burke negotiated a multi-year, multi-million dollar contract with a coach without the express blessing of everyone involved. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean something wasn't on the "up and up".

 

[BoiledSteel]

I'm looking at building a program, not a blip on the screen.

Good because a program is exactly what Painter is building.

 

[mathboy]

Do you somehow think Burke has power over the President and the BOT? If they didn't want to extend CMP then they would have voted no or not even let Burke get into those discussions with Painter. I wonder sometimes if you guys are involved in management at any level where you work. What do you think happened? Burke got this idea in his head that he wanted to extend CMP contract so he secretly met with Painter's rep and they knocked out a deal over a few cocktails. The next day Burke walks into Mitch's office and says "surprise I extended Matt for another few years".

Your argument makes no sense. In one sentence you are saying that you acknowledge the leadership of PU (BOT and President) were involved in this decision and then you say it wasn't done on the up and up. Which is it? Did Burke hold some clandestine meetings with Painter or was he negotiating with the blessing of leadership? Or is possible that the board doesn't own a calendar so they didn't realize that they were extending Matt for so many years?

Obviously you don't care for CMP or Burke. That is perfectly fine. But to twist this into some sort of conspiracy that Burke pulled off is just dumb. You want a different coach and you aren't going to get one for years and you're pissed about it. Fine, just don't make stuff up to fit your agenda. Nobody in their right mind believes that Burke negotiated a multi-year, multi-million dollar contract with a coach without the express blessing of everyone involved. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean something wasn't on the "up and up".

Great response! I know that the extensions of contracts at the end of Burk’s reign seemed capricious and extravagant, but they were part of a carefully planned and orchestrated transition plan to keep the ranks stable during the AD change. I think it is time to put the conspiracy theories to rest. Burk was not the “lone gunman”, and did not act in isolation.

 

[DG10]

Do you somehow think Burke has power over the President and the BOT? If they didn't want to extend CMP then they would have voted no or not even let Burke get into those discussions with Painter. I wonder sometimes if you guys are involved in management at any level where you work. What do you think happened? Burke got this idea in his head that he wanted to extend CMP contract so he secretly met with Painter's rep and they knocked out a deal over a few cocktails. The next day Burke walks into Mitch's office and says "surprise I extended Matt for another few years".

Your argument makes no sense. In one sentence you are saying that you acknowledge the leadership of PU (BOT and President) were involved in this decision and then you say it wasn't done on the up and up. Which is it? Did Burke hold some clandestine meetings with Painter or was he negotiating with the blessing of leadership? Or is possible that the board doesn't own a calendar so they didn't realize that they were extending Matt for so many years?

Obviously you don't care for CMP or Burke. That is perfectly fine. But to twist this into some sort of conspiracy that Burke pulled off is just dumb. You want a different coach and you aren't going to get one for years and you're pissed about it. Fine, just don't make stuff up to fit your agenda. Nobody in their right mind believes that Burke negotiated a multi-year, multi-million dollar contract with a coach without the express blessing of everyone involved. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean something wasn't on the "up and up".

The leadership could not care less what happens within the athletic department...they have made that abundantly clear, and done so over and over for that matter...as long as it is self-sufficient (and it is, solely because of the BTN), they could not care less about what happens within it (outside of poor representation by athletes and/or coaches).

Thus, I have acknowledged that they did indeed sign off on or approve the extension...but, by no means was the extension their idea or suggestion...and while they approved it (for whatever reason, even if it is as simple as they don't care), the fact that it happened as the final act by the lame duck and departing AD opposed to the new AD not only merits questioning, but it reeks of a parting gift.

Again, whether an extension was warranted or not is an entirely different matter...but, there was no need for the extension at the time that it was done, nor for it to be done by Burke...it was initiated by Burke...it totally ties the hands of his successor...and it was simply signed off on/approved because it was nothing more than rubber stamping standard operating procedure...name a time that the leadership has not approved an action by Burke (or any AD), which is further affirmation of that.

It absolutely was a conspiracy...the guy should not have been involved in any personnel decisions knowing that he was departing, and he was involved in multiple such decisions...at his own initiation.

You are right...I can't stand Burke...I have not liked Burke for years...one of the darkest days in Purdue athletics was the day that he elected to stay after having announced that he was leaving, only to have things fall through at Inland...he is smug, has an enormous ego, is completely out of touch with the fanbase and sees things only as he wants others to see them (despite the fact that they don't). The guy would have been fired at any other institution where there was any accountability outside of the single expectation to be financially self-sufficient, and he was only able to achieve that single expectation because of the BTN contract.

 

[JohnnyDoeBoiler]

I'm looking at building a program, not a blip on the screen.

Then you clearly don't understand the intricacies of building a program. You do realize Purdue is just 3 or 4 years removed from some of the poorest results they have had in the last 30 years, right? Don't you see the clear improvement that has carried over from there to where the program is now? Wouldn't that be classified as building a program?

 

[DG10]

Great response! I know that the extensions of contracts at the end of Burk’s reign seemed capricious and extravagant, but they were part of a carefully planned and orchestrated transition plan to keep the ranks stable during the AD change. I think it is time to put the conspiracy theories to rest. Burk was not the “lone gunman”, and did not act in isolation.

Carefully planned and orchestrated my a$$...there were no plans at all, which is precisely why he was able to serve out his contract on his own terms. Of all the garbage spewed on these forums, the notion that there was any sort of carefully planned and orchestrated transition takes the cake for certain.

 

[DG10]

Then you clearly don't understand the intricacies of building a program. You do realize Purdue is just 3 or 4 years removed from some of the poorest results they have had in the last 30 years, right? Don't you see the clear improvement that has carried over from there to where the program is now? Wouldn't that be classified as building a program?

Was he building a program then when he took over...and did that exact same thing...only to take it right back to where it was when he inherited it...with the potential for the exact same cycle to occur yet again? THAT is not building a program...

 

[mathboy]

Carefully planned and orchestrated my a$$...there were no plans at all, which is precisely why he was able to serve out his contract on his own terms. Of all the garbage spewed on these forums, the notion that there was any sort of carefully planned and orchestrated transition takes the cake for certain.

What leads you think this way? What evidence do you have to contradict my assertions? Maybe I might have a little more insight than you have on this issue, but I am curious what drives your thinking this way. I think it a fair question.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Then you clearly don't understand the intricacies of building a program. You do realize Purdue is just 3 or 4 years removed from some of the poorest results they have had in the last 30 years, right? Don't you see the clear improvement that has carried over from there to where the program is now? Wouldn't that be classified as building a program?

You are correct, but you would have to agree that a program is built by bringing in 2-3 top players every year, at least. We will almost certainly have 2 years in a row where we DO NOT do that.