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Hunter Johnson??

It's a bit more than speculative (copied from another post by gcg on our Board talking about this):

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/tennessee-football/jeff-brohm-better-get-now-gets-hot/

Brohm then went into damage control mode after the fact, tacitly confirming that there was reciprocal interest:

Speaking about his involvement in the Vols coaching search for one of the first times, Brohm didn’t get into specifics and simply told the Courier Journal that there was interest from both sides of the deal, and “where there’s smoke, there’s fire.”

http://footballscoop.com/news/purdu...ch-interesting-effect-boilermaker-recruiting/


I don't think this is going to be a negative vs. negative thing.

I think he goes to Purdue if he is enthralled with the idea of playing for Jeff Brohm and/or if he wants to be much closer to home.

I think he's a Cat if the gap between Mick McCall (who has tutored his share of All-Conference and NFL QBs, albeit with a much lower profile than Brohm) and Brohm isn't seen as that wide, and he wants more certainty with the depth chart (Sindelar vs a very wide open situation at NU) and with the coaching situation. I think the intangibles (family ties, his brother's experience, Kirtz if he ends up at NU as I think is very likely) play in NU's favour.

I think it could go either way, but with our purple colored glasses in Evanston, we like our chances, as I'm sure you like yours.


Gotta give you credit: You are on a mission!
 
The “Brohm won’t be there” shtick that other coaches are using us about the only negative they can use against Purdue even thougj it’s just speculative at best.
I can assure you NU doesn’t negative recruit on speculative things about CJB or any other Coach. They do sell their stability as they should. Negative recruiting is weak. We get the same thing in Basketball where other schools are claiming Chris Collins is going to Duke.

If this is a 2 horse race, This comes down to Hunter going to some place he is very familiar with (NU) or goes to a place where he feels the HC can get more prepared for the league (PU). NU wil also sell there last QB being in the NFL and current QB expected to be there with him after this year. PU also has a very good young QB where NU has unproven players after their graduating Senior. It should be a horse race with no prohibitive favorite.
 
I can assure you NU doesn’t negative recruit on speculative things about CJB or any other Coach. They do sell their stability as they should. Negative recruiting is weak. We get the same thing in Basketball where other schools are claiming Chris Collins is going to Duke.

If this is a 2 horse race, This comes down to Hunter going to some place he is very familiar with (NU) or goes to a place where he feels the HC can get more prepared for the league (PU). NU wil also sell there last QB being in the NFL and current QB expected to be there with him after this year. PU also has a very good young QB where NU has unproven players after their graduating Senior. It should be a horse race with no prohibitive favorite.

In my opinion, Purdue should win most QB recruiting battles against NW seeing as how their head coach (and QB coach) were stud QB’s and the fact that Purdue is known as the cradle of quarterbacks. Purdue has such an amazing history of quarterbacks throughout the years.
 
I live in the same community as the Johnson family. Quality sons, both Cole and Hunter. Quality parents as well, dad is a dentist. Cole is currently a dental student in Indy. Have no insight to the rumors, but it would be a big get for Purdue. Brandon Peters, who came in and started for Michigan last year also lives in my area and is in the same class as Hunter. Quality family as well. Both players highly regarded. Peters played for Avon HS which is about 15 minutes south of Brownsburg where Hunter played. The Avon- Brownsburg game was televised on ESPN2 or ESPNU when these two guys were seniors. Avon won. Anxious to see what happens.
Maybe introduce yourself and offer to mow their lawn, while wearing your Drew Brees Jersey! Lol
 
Sampson James should read this story. These recruits get very excited and commit to programs where they get buried in the depth charts when they could be starting at other schools. I hope he comes to Purdue. We loose Blough after this season so next year would be perfect.
He’d have to sit out next year.
 
In my opinion, Purdue should win most QB recruiting battles against NW seeing as how their head coach (and QB coach) were stud QB’s and the fact that Purdue is known as the cradle of quarterbacks. Purdue has such an amazing history of quarterbacks throughout the years.

I would generally agree. However, since Hunter is coming from an ultra-competitive environment, my guess is he's going to be looking for a place where he can shine, yet have a position that is virtually a lock for him to win.

That would be NU. That certainly wouldn't be Purdue. I give NU the inside track on Hunter.

What doesn't get reported is that Kirtz has really struggled with the process. It wouldn't surprise me to see him land at NU, especially if Hunter goes there. My take is, he doesn't want to go far from home, Purdue hasn't been his first choice but sees what's going on there and has very much warmed to the idea.
 
I would generally agree. However, since Hunter is coming from an ultra-competitive environment, my guess is he's going to be looking for a place where he can shine, yet have a position that is virtually a lock for him to win.

That would be NU. That certainly wouldn't be Purdue. I give NU the inside track on Hunter.

What doesn't get reported is that Kirtz has really struggled with the process. It wouldn't surprise me to see him land at NU, especially if Hunter goes there. My take is, he doesn't want to go far from home, Purdue hasn't been his first choice but sees what's going on there and has very much warmed to the idea.

Let's address some stuff here. Kirtz was looking hard at Duke. Nope, that isn't near home. Duke took Eli and then Kirtz lost interest. Most of the schools offering are in the Midwest with a few outliers. That is normal. Karliftas has been recruiting Kirtz for a while and there has been interest there.

As for Hunter not picking Purdue because Northwestern is more on track to win. That is a hilariously bad take. CJB just went 7-6 winning a bowl with a team that had zero four star recruits. The vast majority were low 3 star and 2 star. CJB has two 4 stars committed already plus he got Moore and Anderson last year. Brohm has landed significantly better recruits than what he inherited. Brohm has a pro style offense and a very successful one. Big names like Tennessee were trying to lure him away because he is that good.

Hunter has to sit a year so Purdue will have a chance to get there young players experience before he comes in. If Purdue lands Bell and Brock, they are going to have some ridiculous weapons for Johnson. Northwestern may win the battle, but that's downright ignorant to say that Purdue isn't in a place to win. In two years, they could be battling for a Big championship if they continue at the current rate of success.
 
As for Hunter not picking Purdue because Northwestern is more on track to win. That is a hilariously bad take.
Well you just wasted a lot of words. He didn't say NW is more on track to win. He said HJ would be a virtual lock to win the position at NW versus the QB depth already on our roster
 
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It's Fitzgerald, and that is ridonkulous. Brohm himself had to do damage control on the Tennessee flirtation, and it's well known that he has his eye on going back to Louisville.

Fitzgerald bleeds Purple - he is an NU alum, is from the area, and is getting paid well - he just had a $250M practice facility open up. He has never flirted with other schools despite having been in the discussion for openings at Notre Dame and Michigan. If you think that Fitz is going to leave NU for another gig, you are as deluded about him as some appear to be about Kirtz.

This is extreme first hand knowledge of the Michigan/ Fitz situation

When Fitz was the hot commodity before Rich Rodriguez was hired by Michigan, UM officials flew a private jet into Lake County municipal airport to meet with Fitz and make him a formal offer. Fitz was in a limo with his agent on the way to greet them at the airport as their flight landed, Fitz choked up and said "gotta cancel. Can't do it, can't leave NU. I can't imagine coaching against NU this coming year". His agent was pissed because $$$ but Fitz refused to back down and meet with them, even though they just flew private and probably spent a lot of money to do so

He had a show-me interview with the Bears before they hired Nagy as well, but he was never actually considered by them

Fitz ain't going anywhere
 
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Well you just wasted a lot of words. He didn't say NW is more on track to win. He said HJ would be a virtual lock to win the position at NW versus the QB depth already on our roster

Sindelar Is a graduate in 2018 and will have one year remaining for 2019. Sindelar was also rated 731, 27th QB. Johnson was 30th overall and number 2 pro style QB.

Plummer is very good and will be very good, but was still 522 and 22nd pro style.

Northwestern has Whittaker, in the 816 and 34 pro style QB.

He left Clemson because the new guy was number one QB and top 3 in the entire class.

Hunter is the projected starter at both schools when he gets there. What is currently at both schools won't affect his ability to start. Sindelar will be a graduate senior with the ability to leave. Still a bad take.
 
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Sindelar Is a graduate in 2018 and will have one year remaining for 2019. Sindelar was also rated 731, 27th QB. Johnson was 30th overall and number 2 pro style QB.

Plummer is very good and will be very good, but was still 522 and 22nd pro style.

Northwestern has Whittaker, in the 816 and 34 pro style QB.

He left Clemson because the new guy was number one QB and top 3 in the entire class.

Hunter is the projected starter at both schools when he gets there. What is currently at both schools won't affect his ability to start. Sindelar will be a graduate senior with the ability to leave. Still a bad take.
I would tend to agree with most of this. And I am the guy who was just arguing not to shoe-in Johnson over Sindelar in 2019, but yeah, from the player's perspective he has to believe he can come in and take the job from ES or anyone else on the Purdue roster.

Personally, I think the timing is pretty good with ES coming off an injury and a season last year where he was not the full time starter. From the outside it has to appear that the position is wide open for 2019. Six months from now I suspect things will appear much different if ES throws for 3,000 yards this season.
 
We know what Sindelar is capable of since we have seen him play. I have never seen this Johnson kid play, but obviously he was good in high school and good in the Clemson spring game. I am not willing to bet who would start between the two, especially since we don't even know where Johnson will end up. It all comes down to who performs on the field and gives us the best chance to win. I hope Coach Brohm can get him to come to Purdue, but if he doesn't we will be alright.
 
Sindelar Is a graduate in 2018 and will have one year remaining for 2019. Sindelar was also rated 731, 27th QB. Johnson was 30th overall and number 2 pro style QB.

Plummer is very good and will be very good, but was still 522 and 22nd pro style.

Northwestern has Whittaker, in the 816 and 34 pro style QB.

He left Clemson because the new guy was number one QB and top 3 in the entire class.

Hunter is the projected starter at both schools when he gets there. What is currently at both schools won't affect his ability to start. Sindelar will be a graduate senior with the ability to leave. Still a bad take.
Lol.
 
It's Fitzgerald, and that is ridonkulous. Brohm himself had to do damage control on the Tennessee flirtation, and it's well known that he has his eye on going back to Louisville.

Fitzgerald bleeds Purple - he is an NU alum, is from the area, and is getting paid well - he just had a $250M practice facility open up. He has never flirted with other schools despite having been in the discussion for openings at Notre Dame and Michigan. If you think that Fitz is going to leave NU for another gig, you are as deluded about him as some appear to be about Kirtz.
What damage control are you talking about? Brohm has stated himself that the ridiculous UT rumors actually helped him while recruiting. He did ZERO damage control and Purdue has the ability to compensate both financially and other means to compete with all but 10-20 programs in the country...Louisville isn't one of those.
 
Brohms only head coaching gig prior to Purdue was Western Kentucky.Purdue is obviously a step up.Before being the head man at WSU,he did move a lot,like all assistants do.
Looked up Brohm's coaching track record...

Louisville: 2002-2008
Florida Atlantic: 2009
Illinois: 2010-2011
UAB: 2012
WKU: 2013-2016
Purdue: 2017-current

As compared to some other coaches, I don't think that is really hoping around that much. Only two stints of a single year.
 
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Mitch Daniels & Mike Bobinski are men who want to win. I believe that what we saw with Brohm's contract this year is what we will continue to see as long as he continues to improve the product on the field, and I believe he will. They know if he improves the team that other programs will come after him. As long as Purdue continues to improve then the crowds will continue to grow, the fans will continue to spend more money, and they alumni will contribute more. As this happens I bet they will continue to give him and his staff increases in pay to hopefully keep him around. Can we compete with Michigan and Alabama in terms of equal pay. No, but I get the feeling that Brohm really loves Purdue and wants to turn the program around and be here to make it succeed. This is his baby and when he eventually takes Purdue to a BCS game he will get all the credit.
 
Let's address some stuff here. Kirtz was looking hard at Duke. Nope, that isn't near home. Duke took Eli and then Kirtz lost interest. Most of the schools offering are in the Midwest with a few outliers. That is normal. Karliftas has been recruiting Kirtz for a while and there has been interest there.

As for Hunter not picking Purdue because Northwestern is more on track to win. That is a hilariously bad take. CJB just went 7-6 winning a bowl with a team that had zero four star recruits. The vast majority were low 3 star and 2 star. CJB has two 4 stars committed already plus he got Moore and Anderson last year. Brohm has landed significantly better recruits than what he inherited. Brohm has a pro style offense and a very successful one. Big names like Tennessee were trying to lure him away because he is that good.

Hunter has to sit a year so Purdue will have a chance to get there young players experience before he comes in. If Purdue lands Bell and Brock, they are going to have some ridiculous weapons for Johnson. Northwestern may win the battle, but that's downright ignorant to say that Purdue isn't in a place to win. In two years, they could be battling for a Big championship if they continue at the current rate of success.



You're looking for an argument where none exists.

It's not a bad take, just one that doesn't square with yours.
 
Mitch Daniels & Mike Bobinski are men who want to win. I believe that what we saw with Brohm's contract this year is what we will continue to see as long as he continues to improve the product on the field, and I believe he will. They know if he improves the team that other programs will come after him. As long as Purdue continues to improve then the crowds will continue to grow, the fans will continue to spend more money, and they alumni will contribute more. As this happens I bet they will continue to give him and his staff increases in pay to hopefully keep him around. Can we compete with Michigan and Alabama in terms of equal pay. No, but I get the feeling that Brohm really loves Purdue and wants to turn the program around and be here to make it succeed. This is his baby and when he eventually takes Purdue to a BCS game he will get all the credit.
Brian (GBI) mentioned this on one of the radio shows - that Purdue is a great place to be a head coach now that Mitch and Mike are in charge. Brian basically said being a coach at Purdue under the previous AD/President was not enjoyable at all and there was no commitment to helping the coaches succeed. That has all changed now. The support is there, the facilities are much better and getting better every year, and the salaries for coaches are much more competitive than previously. Being a coach at Purdue right now is an really good gig. It would take a once in a lifetime opportunity for Brohm/Painter to leave.
 
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Brian (GBI) mentioned this one of the radio shows - that Purdue is a great place to be a head coach now that Mitch and Mike are in charge. Brian basically said being a coach at Purdue under the previous AD/President was not enjoyable at all and there was no commitment to helping the coaches succeed. That has all changed now. The support is there, the facilities are much better and getting better every year, and the salaries for coaches are much more competitive than previously. Being a coach at Purdue right now is an really good gig. It would take a once in a lifetime opportunity for Brohm/Painter to leave.

I think the only opportunity he leaves for is Louisville (in the near term).

Long term, when Saban leaves Alabama or one of the big dogs comes open say 3-4 years from now I will be concerned. The guy makes almost $4mil a year. Going to be hard to pay him enough to make him leave. There are schools that can do it for sure....but not a ton are THAT committed.
 
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Brian (GBI) mentioned this on one of the radio shows - that Purdue is a great place to be a head coach now that Mitch and Mike are in charge. Brian basically said being a coach at Purdue under the previous AD/President was not enjoyable at all and there was no commitment to helping the coaches succeed. That has all changed now. The support is there, the facilities are much better and getting better every year, and the salaries for coaches are much more competitive than previously. Being a coach at Purdue right now is an really good gig. It would take a once in a lifetime opportunity for Brohm/Painter to leave.

Don't be surprised if in the next 3-5 years, another project for the football program/athletic programs are announced.

I think a new athletic eating facility would be another really good step forward for all athletes but would benefit football and basketball heavily. A new facility that could be placed where the bad IAF (volleyball) is now would be a great addition for the athletes as it would be located near all of their training facilities (Mollenkauf, weight facilities at Mackey, Brees Building, etc).

Volleyball would really benefit from a slightly larger facility for recruiting and given that they frequently sell out of their home matches every year. The only figures I could find were from 2012 and Purdue was 8th in the country at a total attendance mark of 48,566 (average 2,857). That's pretty good numbers and I think the program deserves a new facility (would also benefit wrestling). The only programs to not receive a new facility are volleyball/wrestling and T&F).
 
Northwestern has one of the best communications schools in the nation. Just ask Mike Greenburg, Mike Wilbon, Shelly Long, Charlton Heston and Bebe Neuworth. Their business school and sports journalism is also pretty impressive.

http://www.medill.northwestern.edu/...nalism/specializations/sport-media/index.html

I'm just being honest.
Yes, of course they do. And both Purdue and Illinois are much higher ranked in computer science than Oregon (Okoro). Sorry my sarcasm is a bit oblique at times.
 
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