Impressed me the most. Heide is an extreme 3 level threat and Morty came in and flat out dominated for a few minutes. Crazy
SADLY, take Furst and Waddell out and the "beeatch" is not so bad.I'm really excited to see real game time and what these "other guys" are going to really bring to the table. Heide had a great game. He's also had 12 rebounds in the scrimmage so we know he can help there as well. Nice touch pass to Caleb for the slam when he could easily have taken it the hoop himself. Big cheer and flex on Calebs throw down too. I didn't watch enough to see him on defense specifically, but an impressive game showing what he can bring. I do worry about his foot issues, especially with this ability to fly pretty high. Fingers crossed tight that he stays healthy.
I believed Matt when he said that Ethan was much improved. And Ethan did the work to become a respectable defender when nobody else wanted/could (at the time) do the role. Not surprised to see him play well, but VERY happy to see him making some shots to keep the Morton haters at bay.
Myles kinda came out from under wraps as well. BIg time PO there. With the guards all looking pretty nice and Morton gonna play more backcourt, Myles minutes are probably gonna have to come at 3. That Brian is even in the fight with top 100 guys for pt says a ton about him.
Gonna be a b**** to sort out the minutes.
I believed Matt when he said that Ethan was much improved. And Ethan did the work to become a respectable defender when nobody else wanted/could (at the time) do the role. Not surprised to see him play well, but VERY happy to see him making some shots to keep the Morton haters at bay.
Heide and Colvin have to playOne of Ms issues is can't stay in front of guys. Saw it again vs. Arkansas ....so not sure what you think is improved? .
Admittedly, great defender on slower guys. Great on team defense.
As far as offense, pretty sure a 5 pt game when team gets 98 is not noteworthy.
But his 5 assists was very good.
From what I am seeing, I don’t see how you keep Heide off the floor at the 3.Heide and Colvin have to play
agree w/ your post, he did OK last night. In the first half, he made that 3 then got a steal but right after got burned on a 1 on 1 for 2 by a true FR. Did well bringing the ball up the court.One of Ms issues is can't stay in front of guys. Saw it again vs. Arkansas ....so not sure what you think is improved? .
Admittedly, great defender on slower guys. Great on team defense.
As far as offense, pretty sure a 5 pt game when team gets 98 is not noteworthy.
But his 5 assists was very good.
We need to start building the team to win in March. Heide and Colvin are badly needed injection of athletism.From what I am seeing, I don’t see how you keep Heide off the floor at the 3.
Colvin shows lots of promise as well.
We need to start building the team to win in March. Heide and Colvin are badly needed injection of athletism.
Furst will lose out (Sadly).It will be interesting to see whose minutes really get shortened or taken away altogether as we move deeper into the season. CMP will not play this many guys, but at least last night, it was hard to argue against anyone off the bench to continue to get worthy minutes.
Painter played four guys at the 4 and 5 last year, I don’t know why he wouldn’t do the same this year. I agree that Caleb likely needs to show more if he wants to average closer to 18 minutes a game.than 12 but are you expecting him to be out of the regular rotation? Doesn’t seem likely to me.Furst will lose out (Sadly).
I have no idea what you saw that would lead you to believe that Gillis will be the 11th man. That doesn’t make any sense to me given that MP played four guys at the four and five last year and is likely to again.I had predicted a mid-season lineup of Edey, Heide, Waddell, Colvin, and Smith with Loyer coming in for instant offense. With 4 guys who could break a press, attack the rim, be extremely athletic on D, and hit the 3 over 35% as a team depending on at least two being hot. My second unit of Jones, Loyer, Morton, Giilles, and Furst would hand with anyone and give a respectable 15 minutes of relief. I saw TKR as our Swen Nater. Swen was the second-best player on a UCLA team and became a first-round draft pick, even though I believe he averaged less than 2 points and rebounds per game. TKR, and, for that matter, all the big men will benefit from playing against Edey if any decide to play professional ball.
This lineup was created by listening to Painter and reading between the lines. For example, Colvin is getting picked on IMO to motivate him, and he has excellent potential. Adopting this usage enables us to up-tempo the offense and have us pick up the D for the whole length of the floor.
The Samford game makes me see that Gillis will be the 11th man leaving Furst and TKR together controlling the boards. I was also impressed with Berg, which gives us a logjam of big men. It was disappointing to see Wadell drop off; as I had read, he was doing great. And it looks like I may be wrong in my prediction, and he drops to 11th man, Gillies moves into the starting PF, and Heide moves to SF. Also, Morton looked great moving the ball upcourt against the press, so maybe Loyer and Colvin flip-flop.
I tend to agree. While I like Gillis I could see him losing out as well.Furst will lose out (Sadly).
Of course I don't see him being out of the rotation. "losing out" meant less minutes.Painter played four guys at the 4 and 5 last year, I don’t know why he wouldn’t do the same this year. I agree that Caleb likely needs to show more if he wants to average closer to 18 minutes a game.than 12 but are you expecting him to be out of the regular rotation? Doesn’t seem likely to me.
I'm renaming Morton "Billy Hoyle". Watching him play defense just reminds me of Woody Harrelson in White Men Can't Jump.M can't stay in front of guys. Saw it again vs. Arkansas ....so not sure what you think is improved? .
Admittedly, great defender on slower guys. Great on team defense.
As far as offense, pretty sure a 5 pt game when team gets 98 is not noteworthy.
But his 5 assists was very good.
I dont' see that happening with Furst. He's the 2nd best rebounder on the team and only other center that can hold position and play defensively against other real centers.SADLY, take Furst and Waddell out and the "beeatch" is not so bad.
you don't park the guy that does all the things that don't show in the stat sheets.I tend to agree. While I like Gillis I could see him losing out as well.
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I love the way Gillis plays but I would play Heide at the 4 next to Edey. From reading reports, they say Heide is a good rebounder, but for boxing out I would give the edge to Gillis. However, what we need next to Edey are guys who can hit the three and drive, and for that, Heide. I also want to see an up-tempo offense where Heide, a better ball-handler, assists in bringing the ball up quickly.I have no idea what you saw that would lead you to believe that Gillis will be the 11th man. That doesn’t make any sense to me given that MP played four guys at the four and five last year and is likely to again.
I loved Morton's four steals, 2 of which led to fast break buckets.Impressed me the most. Heide is an extreme 3 level threat and Morty came in and flat out dominated for a few minutes. Crazy
I would be shocked if Heide plays material minutes at the four this season but that's the only scenario I can think of that has any level of credibility, i.e. Cam is so good that you can't keep him off the court and Myles and others limit his minutes at the three.I love the way Gillis plays but I would play Heide at the 4 next to Edey. From reading reports, they say Heide is a good rebounder, but for boxing out I would give the edge to Gillis. However, what we need next to Edey are guys who can hit the three and drive, and for that, Heide. I also want to see an up-tempo offense where Heide, a better ball-handler, assists in bringing the ball up quickly.
I think in our second unit, we need TKR at the 4 for more scoring at the post. Where does that leave Gillis as we have four guys at the 4 and 5?
If the raves of Waddell at the 3 are all hype, and he is the 11th, then you are right, and we start Gillis at the 4 and Heide at the 3.
I loved Morton's four steals, 2 of which led to fast break buckets.
I agree about Waddell after watching the Samford game. Before that, I relied on what I read. Reports indicated that people who watched practiced said they could see Waddell starting at the 3. Waddell seems to be stronger and a better offensive player than Jones. Having four athletic players who can dribble and beat the press, I would rather Jones on the second unit helping beat the press with Morton. And with Wadell or Colvin at the 3, we can have Heide at the 4 for the reasons I stated. The main one is that we can go with four good rebounding, quicker men with Edey.I would be shocked if Heide plays material minutes at the four this season but that's the only scenario I can think of that has any level of credibility, i.e. Cam is so good that you can't keep him off the court and Myles and others limit his minutes at the three.
Waddell is a nice insurance policy to have in case of injury but unless he dramatically improves quickly he's not going to be in the rotation, much less impacting Cam or Mason's playing time this season.
Waddell is absolutely not stronger than Jones, not even close. I'm not sure what would lead you to think he's a better offensive player at this point, I don't see it.Waddell seems to be stronger and a better offensive player than Jones. Having four athletic players who can dribble and beat the press, I would rather Jones on the second unit helping beat the press with Morton. And with Wadell or Colvin at the 3, we can have Heide at the 4 for the reasons I stated. The main one is that we can go with four good rebounding, quicker men with Edey.
As long as Morton is productive in his 10-15 mins then that’s great. Anything more than 15 min is a bit worrisome.I loved Morton's four steals, 2 of which led to fast break buckets.
It just seems like Brian’s knee isn’t 100%… I know I keep saying it…but just seems off. Hope it heals up as the season wears on.I would be shocked if Heide plays material minutes at the four this season but that's the only scenario I can think of that has any level of credibility, i.e. Cam is so good that you can't keep him off the court and Myles and others limit his minutes at the three.
Waddell is a nice insurance policy to have in case of injury but unless he dramatically improves quickly he's not going to be in the rotation, much less impacting Cam or Mason's playing time this season.
How do you know Waddell doesn’t bench press more than Jones?!? 😂Waddell is absolutely not stronger than Jones, not even close. I'm not sure what would lead you to think he's a better offensive player at this point, I don't see it.
Obviously you and Thadoc are welcome to whatever preferences you want at the 4. Barring injury, it's just not going to happen unless Cam really blows up to the point that he needs 30mpg.
Too many other good, experienced options at the 4 and 95% of the time you don't need four ball handlers on the court. I can get why you'd want that but not worth the trade off in experience, size and rebounding unless Cam blows up.
I'd like to be able to clone Morton and have four Morton's playing 40 mpg each along with 40 mpg from Edey. Guaranteed NC, book it.As long as Morton is productive in his 10-15 mins then that’s great. Anything more than 15 min is a bit worrisome.
Could be. I don't know if it's the knee but I do think he still has some work to do physically. He just came in so underdeveloped physically. It also looks to me like he's just adjusting to being on the big stage.It just seems like Brian’s knee isn’t 100%… I know I keep saying it…but just seems off. Hope it heals up as the season wears on.
Don’t you put that evil on us, Northside!!!I'd like to be able to clone Morton and have four Morton's playing 40 mpg each along with 40 mpg from Edey. Guaranteed NC, book it.
Again, I am going by what I read, and reports are Waddell has a nice shot and can drive. Maybe his knee is still giving him trouble, I don't know. Hummel said it looked like he spent a lot of time in the weight room.Waddell is absolutely not stronger than Jones, not even close. I'm not sure what would lead you to think he's a better offensive player at this point, I don't see it.
Obviously you and Thadoc are welcome to whatever preferences you want at the 4. Barring injury, it's just not going to happen unless Cam really blows up to the point that he needs 30mpg.
Too many other good, experienced options at the 4 and 95% of the time you don't need four ball handlers on the court. I can get why you'd want that but not worth the trade off in experience, size and rebounding unless Cam blows up.
So have you actually watched anything or just read all about it ?!Again, I am going by what I read, and reports are Waddell has a nice shot and can drive. Maybe his knee is still giving him trouble, I don't know. Hummel said it looked like he spent a lot of time in the weight room.
Jones looks ideal for this team, and from my observation, he looks like one heck of a man-on-man defender, and he looks like a tremendous dribbler; this is why I am for teaming him with Morton. I saw he takes it to the hole very well, but his jump shot was not falling and that is why I lean towards Waddell. Again, my viewpoint is that we have a 1st and 2nd unit averaging out 23 and 17 with some overlapping that could have Jones averaging 23.
And again, Heide looks to be a good rebounder, but everything I have read is that he is tearing it up from 3. And maybe I am mistaken, but wasn't Smith our 2nd leading rebounder because of his quickness while Edey cleaned up the boards around the rim? I guess I am also thinking back thirty years ago to Olajuwon playing with four 3-point shooters. If that works, we can always put Colvin at the 3.
Anyone who watched the game could not miss two of the steals. Guards passing the ball out front.I assume all 4 steals were from reach around ( without fouling) because he couldn't stay in front of anyone.
Is that better than 5 Ryan Cline's though?I'd like to be able to clone Morton and have four Morton's playing 40 mpg each along with 40 mpg from Edey. Guaranteed NC, book it.
Easy that’s why all the guys had four steals…oh wait. oh, and the 5 assists in 15 minutes, just luck.Anyone who watched the game could not miss two of the steals. Guards passing the ball out front.
Easy that’s why all the guys had four steals…oh wait. oh, and the 5 assists in 15 minutes, just luck.