He is back before it is official!
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Trump has accomplished more in 3 weeks, while not being POTUS as Harris/Biden did in 4 years.
and to no surprise to all unaffected by TDS!
I’m sure you mean good things as accomplishments , while the Biden/Harris did hurtful things to the country.
He's issued a dead serious ultimatum to Hamas and the Palestinians. You can bet (unlike Biden) that if they don't comply, there will be hell to pay.
He's already brought Canada to the bargaining table on tariffs.
The Mexican president is extremely worried about the tariffs for her country.
He's already had discussions with Putin and Z about the Ukraine situation.
Consumer confidence in the economy is growing and reflected in the stock market.
It's more about companies not having an advantage in a foreign country and bringing jobs back to the US.
And yes they are scared.
Chump set these tariffs the last time and they did not work. Being from the steel capital of North America I was initially for them. Our democratic congressman l
was for this. Turned out to be a horrible idea. Caused a trade war with China. Those tariffs did not bring back any jobs either.
If the tariffs didn't work....why did Biden leave several of them in place??? And even increase some of them?? So uniformed......but like I say at least you are entertaining.
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Perhaps he picked and chose the tariffs that he thought worked. Got rid of the ones he thought didn’t work. Tariffs sound good on paper but aren’t the best option.
How did that turn out for him lol
Unlike Biden Trump knows what the fk he is doing.
Sanctions on Iranian oil, no war in Israel or Ukraine.
Tariffs on selective goods from Countries rapeing the US. Low inflation and a booming economy.
Your wrong
It depends which workers we’re talking about. Workers who produce the specific goods covered by tariffs typically benefit from the protection. While it is difficult to pin down exact numbers, the tariffs on steel products appear to have helped create several thousand jobs in the steel industry; similarly, tariffs on washing machines are associated with approximately 1,800 new jobs at Whirlpool, Samsung, and LG factories in the US. In these specific industries, then, tariffs have probably been good for workers.
tariffs force us consumers to pay more for goods because those goods are sourced from either America or another nation other than China. When it comes to steel and semiconductors, sourcing those products from geopolitical country aligned with the US assures that production won’t be halted if/when we go to war OR any time the country wants to stop production to hurt the US (think China and it stopping semiconductor shipments if/when it attacks Taiwan where basically a majority of our chips come from)
What tariffs are designed to do is to move manufacturing from a cheap geopolitical adversarial country (aka China who uses child and slave labor…hmm that sounds like a great ideal to source goods from that country to save money) and move it either to the US or another geopolitical country aligned with the US.
Did Trump’s tariffs benefit American workers and national security?
www.brookings.edu
Think of beer. If tariffs were placed on German beer, it would reduce raise the price of German beer (so those who buy beer from Germany pay more). But in establishing the tariffs, more beer production moves to the US, then the us beer workers benefit through increased manufacturing output (which the site above says has happened). It can also cause a shift in manufacturing to Canada or even the Netherlands or Australia to increase imports from those countries.
The one key impact is that it likely reduces consumption from China and hurts the China economy. Same would go for Canada and Mexico if tariffs were implemented there. Car manufacturers would have to move those jobs back to the US to avoid tariffs. (Yes, the cost of cars would increase on American cars, but the jobs comeback home).
Don’t even get me started on lost intellectual property (IP) rights. China has been stealing our patents for years to help their own companies compete with US products. So the US moves electric drill manufacturing to China, the Chinese government takes the manufacturing process and gives it to a Chinese company (because all China companies are owned by the Chinese government) and instantly starts manufacturing goods cheaper than the US manufactures. Good for China. So now China steals the job and the technology. And the US is hooked on the cheap Chinese goods and cheap Chinese labor.
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so does it follow that if product becomes more expensive since we buy from the USA which costs more, that potentially there is an increase in tax revenue as a result, which in turns says we can reduce the ordinary income taxes and maintain the tax revenue. Course government can continue to spend in excess, tax more than needed (gotta also give out money to countries that hate us) and then buy product outside the USA and "develop" their technology for manufacturing which ultimately makes the USA less secure.Your wrong
It depends which workers we’re talking about. Workers who produce the specific goods covered by tariffs typically benefit from the protection. While it is difficult to pin down exact numbers, the tariffs on steel products appear to have helped create several thousand jobs in the steel industry; similarly, tariffs on washing machines are associated with approximately 1,800 new jobs at Whirlpool, Samsung, and LG factories in the US. In these specific industries, then, tariffs have probably been good for workers.
tariffs force us consumers to pay more for goods because those goods are sourced from either America or another nation other than China. When it comes to steel and semiconductors, sourcing those products from geopolitical country aligned with the US assures that production won’t be halted if/when we go to war OR any time the country wants to stop production to hurt the US (think China and it stopping semiconductor shipments if/when it attacks Taiwan where basically a majority of our chips come from)
What tariffs are designed to do is to move manufacturing from a cheap geopolitical adversarial country (aka China who uses child and slave labor…hmm that sounds like a great ideal to source goods from that country to save money) and move it either to the US or another geopolitical country aligned with the US.
Did Trump’s tariffs benefit American workers and national security?
Think of beer. If tariffs were placed on German beer, it would reduce raise the price of German beer (so those who buy beer from Germany pay more). But in establishing the tariffs, more beer production moves to the US, then the us beer workers benefit through increased manufacturing output (which the site above says has happened). It can also cause a shift in manufacturing to Canada or even the Netherlands or Australia to increase imports from those countries.
The one key impact is that it likely reduces consumption from China and hurts the China economy. Same would go for Canada and Mexico if tariffs were implemented there. Car manufacturers would have to move those jobs back to the US to avoid tariffs.
Dude, your article says that I’m right.Your wrong
It depends which workers we’re talking about. Workers who produce the specific goods covered by tariffs typically benefit from the protection. While it is difficult to pin down exact numbers, the tariffs on steel products appear to have helped create several thousand jobs in the steel industry; similarly, tariffs on washing machines are associated with approximately 1,800 new jobs at Whirlpool, Samsung, and LG factories in the US. In these specific industries, then, tariffs have probably been good for workers.
tariffs force us consumers to pay more for goods because those goods are sourced from either America or another nation other than China. When it comes to steel and semiconductors, sourcing those products from geopolitical country aligned with the US assures that production won’t be halted if/when we go to war OR any time the country wants to stop production to hurt the US (think China and it stopping semiconductor shipments if/when it attacks Taiwan where basically a majority of our chips come from)
What tariffs are designed to do is to move manufacturing from a cheap geopolitical adversarial country (aka China who uses child and slave labor…hmm that sounds like a great ideal to source goods from that country to save money) and move it either to the US or another geopolitical country aligned with the US.
Did Trump’s tariffs benefit American workers and national security?
Think of beer. If tariffs were placed on German beer, it would reduce raise the price of German beer (so those who buy beer from Germany pay more). But in establishing the tariffs, more beer production moves to the US, then the us beer workers benefit through increased manufacturing output (which the site above says has happened). It can also cause a shift in manufacturing to Canada or even the Netherlands or Australia to increase imports from those countries.
The one key impact is that it likely reduces consumption from China and hurts the China economy. Same would go for Canada and Mexico if tariffs were implemented there. Car manufacturers would have to move those jobs back to the US to avoid tariffs. (Yes, the cost of cars would increase on American cars, but the jobs comeback home).
The 5 steel making facilities near where I live did not hire additional workers to their work force due to the steel tariffs. One of those actually shut down the only 2 iron producing blast furnaces that they had. Any hiring was done was to replace the aging workers that retired. I think the steel tariffs Bush the Younger did in the 2000s helped a bit as they were not as aggressive as Chump’s. Plus I do not recall a trade war with China back then.
Dude, the article clearly states that jobs were brought back to the US in specific industries, read the paragraph I highlighted in bold. Translate how that does not say we did not add jobs. Now we may have lost other jobs in other manufacturing sectors, but we increased jobs in those specific sectors.
Just because you didn’t see jobs added in Gary doesn’t mean we didn’t add jobs as a nation. There are 49 other states where those jobs could’ve been added. I trust Brookings much more than I trust BNIBoiler’s economic review.
Not all steel is produced in Gary, see the link stating NC.
Steel production figures U.S. 2022 | Statista
In the period of consideration, steel production in the United States fluctuated considerably.
www.statista.com
See figure 2 in the link below.
The Rise of the US Steel Industry
While the use of steel in US manufacturing grew over the course of the twentieth century, current policies prevent the US steel industry from truly ...
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Cripe, it is already working. The mere threat of a 25% tariff on Mexico has their president scared sh1tless. She has already cracked down on drug trafficking and migrants headed to the US. And this article is from the far-left LA Times.
"An elated Trump reported after the call on social media that Sheinbaum had “agreed to stop Migration through Mexico” and had committed to “effectively closing our Southern Border.”"
Mexico cracks down on drugs and migrants. Will it be enough to stop Trump tariffs?
Mexico's president walks a fine line between pleasing her constituents and placating Trump.
www.latimes.com
I know all steel is not produced in NW Indiana but we still manufacture more steel than any other region in North America. Other than NW Indiana there are steel companies near Fort Wayne, Crawfordsville, New Carlisle, and near Evansville.Dude, the article clearly states that jobs were brought back to the US in specific industries, read the paragraph I highlighted in bold. Translate how that does not say we did not add jobs. Now we may have lost other jobs in other manufacturing sectors, but we increased jobs in those specific sectors.
Just because you didn’t see jobs added in Gary doesn’t mean we didn’t add jobs as a nation. There are 49 other states where those jobs could’ve been added. I trust Brookings much more than I trust BNIBoiler’s economic review.
Not all steel is produced in Gary, see the link stating NC.
Steel production figures U.S. 2022 | Statista
In the period of consideration, steel production in the United States fluctuated considerably.
See figure 2 in the link below.
The Rise of the US Steel Industry
While the use of steel in US manufacturing grew over the course of the twentieth century, current policies prevent the US steel industry from truly ...www.nae.edu
President Obama added thousands of jobs in the US way before Chump’s tariffs. He saved the auto industry which in turn saved the US steel industry.
If the tariff article that you posted was supposed to prove your point that tariffs are good, you failed miserably. The article clearly states the following.
- American firms and consumers paid the vast majority of the cost of Trump’s tariffs.
- While tariffs benefited some workers in import-competing industries, they hurt workers in sectors that rely on imported inputs and those in exporting industries facing retaliation from trade partners.
- Trump’s tariffs did not help the U.S. negotiate better trade agreements or significantly improve national security
By all means you should simply accept what trump tells you as fact. Good minion.Cripe, it is already working. The mere threat of a 25% tariff on Mexico has their president scared sh1tless. She has already cracked down on drug trafficking and migrants headed to the US. And this article is from the far-left LA Times.
"An elated Trump reported after the call on social media that Sheinbaum had “agreed to stop Migration through Mexico” and had committed to “effectively closing our Southern Border.”"
Mexico cracks down on drugs and migrants. Will it be enough to stop Trump tariffs?
Mexico's president walks a fine line between pleasing her constituents and placating Trump.
Mexico leader responds to Trump claim she agreed to stop migration - BBC News
President Claudia Sheinbaum says Mexico's position is not to close borders, and to respect human rights.
www.bbc.com
Did you READ the first two sentences of the link that I posted? This is the LA Times talking, not Trump:By all means you should simply accept what trump tells you as fact. Good minion.
Mexico leader responds to Trump claim she agreed to stop migration - BBC News
President Claudia Sheinbaum says Mexico's position is not to close borders, and to respect human rights.
"In recent days, Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum has touted her country’s largest-ever seizure of fentanyl and highlighted multiple crackdowns on migrants headed toward the United States.
"She was speaking to the press, but her most important audience is U.S. President-elect Donald Trump."
I never said that tariffs are good for all Americans, but it is good for specific industries. YOU said that tariffs didn’t bring back any jobs in the steel industry, which the tariffs did, and the article CLEARLY states that.
Trump isn't imposing the tariffs for more US jobs, revenue nor diplomatic reasons. He is b1tch-slapping, punch-mouthing and arse-kicking the Mexicans to stop the flow of illegals and to stop the drug trafficking. That is the only form of communication that these greaseballs understand.
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These Flavor Aiders will believe anything Chump and Faux News tells them to believe.By all means you should simply accept what trump tells you as fact. Good minion.
Mexico leader responds to Trump claim she agreed to stop migration - BBC News
President Claudia Sheinbaum says Mexico's position is not to close borders, and to respect human rights.
Tariffs at the expense of hurting other industries is not a good thing. I can’t believe that you are implying so.
The author of that article does not live near 5 steel manufacturing plants like do. I’ve worked in and around all five of these plants for over 30 years. I’m telling you any hiring being done is to replace workers that have retired. These 5 plants on Lake Michigan are not expanding as such to require additional workers. Matter of fact one of these plants in East Chicago have lost workers due to closing 2 iron producing blast furnaces. The 84” hot strip mill closed years ago.
Similarly with US Steel in Pittsburgh. US Steel Gary, IN is the flagship plant. Any potential expansion will go there. The Pittsburgh plant ain’t expanding to hire additional workers. These mills will upgrade existing facilities utilizing the current workforce.
Thanks for making my point. Brookings versus BNIBoiler economics review. You know better than anyone. 😉👍
Does your TDS have you in complete denial? This is the liberal LA Times talking, not Trump:
"In recent days, Mexican President Claudia Sheinbaum has touted her country’s largest-ever seizure of fentanyl and highlighted multiple crackdowns on migrants headed toward the United States. She was speaking to the press, but her most important audience is U.S. President-elect Donald Trump."
Here's Reuters: "Mexico to stick with policies aimed at stopping migrants after Trump win"
"With the new U.S. government, these (Mexican) enforcement measures will grow even stronger," said Jose Maria Garcia, the director of a migrant shelter in the northern border city of Tijuana."
And many people believed the media when saying Biden was not mentally compromised. Now some of them are coming clean about this.
Maobama did not save the auto industry. Oldsmobile, Pontiac both lost at GM at the directive of Mao. With Ford, with Daimler/Chrysler they all lost jobs. Maobama was not an icon of saving jobs, but of selective elimination of jobs. How did black folk do under Mao vs. under President Donald J. Trump? And why did DJT get elected with the help of more blacks and minorities than any GOP candidate before?
Probably has to if she wants to stay in power and alive.
Dude, your memory is all jacked up. Obama did save the auto industry that Mitt Romney wanted to fail. The auto industry was all jacked up in 2009. The US loaned GM and Chrysler money in which they paid back with interest. When it was all said and done, GM came out as the leader in auto sales.
As Obama Takes Victory Lap Over Auto Industry Rescue, Here Are The Lessons Of The Bailout
Free marketeers and free traders who like to stand on principle will never be convinced that the U.S. Treasury’s bailout of the U.S. auto industry was sound fiscal policy. But there are about 7.25 million workers either in or supported by the auto industry who are grateful for the stability that...
www.forbes.com
The Obama auto bailout actually saved US jobs.
Blacks did quite well under Obama. A lot of blacks work at the aforementioned auto manufacturing plants that Obama saved. Black unemployment went from just over 16% down to around 7%. At the time the most money allocated to HBCUs. Crime reform bills. Many blacks did not have health care. The Affordable Care allowed millions of Americans including blacks to get access to health care.
Dude, your memory is all jacked up. Obama did save the auto industry that Mitt Romney wanted to fail. The auto industry was all jacked up in 2009. The US loaned GM and Chrysler money in which they paid back with interest. When it was all said and done, GM came out as the leader in auto sales.
As Obama Takes Victory Lap Over Auto Industry Rescue, Here Are The Lessons Of The Bailout
Free marketeers and free traders who like to stand on principle will never be convinced that the U.S. Treasury’s bailout of the U.S. auto industry was sound fiscal policy. But there are about 7.25 million workers either in or supported by the auto industry who are grateful for the stability that...
The Obama auto bailout actually saved US jobs.
Blacks did quite well under Obama. A lot of blacks work at the aforementioned auto manufacturing plants that Obama saved. Many blacks also worked at GM, for example, which shuttered Hummer, Pontiac, Saturn and Saab along with Oldsmobile. I was an engineer with GM at that time and saw unemployment increase at these plants to nothing.
She was just elected in October! She also campaigned on taking a tougher approach to the cartels and drug trafficking than her predecessor. Not everything happens because of trump's threats.
You are wrong. Much happens because of Trump's threats. Trump is crude and rude but his threats are highly effective in foreign affairs. Your TDS has blinded you to this very obvious fact.
After Trump's threat to pull the US out of NATO, members with 2% defense spending went from 6 of 29 (one of the six was the US) to 23 of 32. Mexico is already stopping migrants and taking action on drugs after Trump's 25% tariff threat. And read this from Canadian news since Trump goosed Trudeau with a 25% tariff threat:
"Donald Trump's threat of whopping tariffs on Canadian exports and his trolling of Prime Minister Justin Trudeau are key tactics in a negotiating strategy to extract the best trade terms for the U.S., according to people who have worked with or closely observed him over the years."
And over half of the members of the ruling party in the House of Commons are calling for Trudeau to resign (second link).
New YorkCNN —
US Steel shareholders overwhelmingly approved a deal for the iconic American manufacturer to be purchased by Japan’s Nippon Steel. But the outlook for the controversial merger has never looked so bad.
The deal is significant, not just for the future of what is still a key US industry central to building everything from cars to appliances to roads and bridges, it is also at the center of election year politics and relations between the United States and Japan, a major ally.
There was no resistance from Biden to this takeover.
Where's your concern about this move?
Yeah, this has been going on for a couple of years now. US based steel company Cleveland Cliffs has 3 steel mills along here on Lake Michigan near Gary, IN US Steel. US Steel rejected Cliffs’ offer to buy. US Steel accepted Nippon’s offer. It was agreed that US Steel would keep its iconic name.
The USW union has been fighting this since day one. Nippon has promised the union that they will continue to invest billions of dollars in upgrades to ensure that these US Steel facilities continue to operate for decades to come. The mayor of Gary, IN is excited by the potential purchase. US Steel has facilities in Mon Valley and Clairton near Pittsburgh. Those mayors are supporting the purchase also.
Meanwhile, both Chump and Biden have been outspoken about the proposed Nippon US Steel purchase. They both are against this. Right now, the ball is in Biden’s court. Supposedly he has the power to reject this purchase. A decision is reportedly to be made soon by Biden.
Personnally I wished that US Steel would have accepted the bid to buy from Cleveland Cliffs. Nippon offered a lot more. If Nippon’s promises billions in upgrades and 10 years of jobs security come true then it may turn out to be a good deal. Because currently there is a reason that US Steel wants to sell. I’m not sure in its current state of affairs that they will or will not close any plants.
