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There’s talk on the other board about how good Harris is already. Brian has gone as far as to say he will probably start and that he is a great defender, possibly one of the best we have seen at Purdue.
Some people (IU fans) are saying it’s a bad sign that a frosh is starting over Heide/Colvin but Brian has explained it as Painter wanting a second ball handler next to Smith and not a knock on the two sophomores.

My question is, for you, is it a bad sign or is it a good sign that a frosh is possibly winning a starters role out of the gate?

For me it’s a good sign. We are incredibly deep with talent and we all know that Heide and Colvin are solid players. It’s going to be tough for Painter to manage the minutes with this much talent. Harris being BigDogs son makes this turn of events even more reasonable to me. We knew he was good but to see him win a starters spot right out of the gate is a very good sign that we indeed have a ton of talent on this years team.
 
There’s talk on the other board about how good Harris is already. Brian has gone as far as to say he will probably start and that he is a great defender, possibly one of the best we have seen at Purdue.
Some people (IU fans) are saying it’s a bad sign that a frosh is starting over Heide/Colvin but Brian has explained it as Painter wanting a second ball handler next to Smith and not a knock on the two sophomores.

My question is, for you, is it a bad sign or is it a good sign that a frosh is possibly winning a starters role out of the gate?

For me it’s a good sign. We are incredibly deep with talent and we all know that Heide and Colvin are solid players. It’s going to be tough for Painter to manage the minutes with this much talent. Harris being BigDogs son makes this turn of events even more reasonable to me. We knew he was good but to see him win a starters spot right out of the gate is a very good sign that we indeed have a ton of talent on this years team.
Tbh, I trust painter and his evaluation for what’s best. But also, it doesn’t matter who starts. If Harris is ready and better than those two, then I’d assume that means he’s pretty damn good. If Colvin or Heide play more mins than Harris, then what? Haha. I’m excited to see what the team looks like and go from there.

Also, IU fans don’t really have anything to stand on as they told us X was a better PG than Braden and that Cupps was going to be better than Braden as well. We were also told ware and Reneau were going to give the team trouble and they wouldn’t be able to guard them. So I don’t take their evaluation of basketball talent into consideration, as they have been pretty poor at it for quite some time.
 
There’s talk on the other board about how good Harris is already. Brian has gone as far as to say he will probably start and that he is a great defender, possibly one of the best we have seen at Purdue.
Some people (IU fans) are saying it’s a bad sign that a frosh is starting over Heide/Colvin but Brian has explained it as Painter wanting a second ball handler next to Smith and not a knock on the two sophomores.

My question is, for you, is it a bad sign or is it a good sign that a frosh is possibly winning a starters role out of the gate?

For me it’s a good sign. We are incredibly deep with talent and we all know that Heide and Colvin are solid players. It’s going to be tough for Painter to manage the minutes with this much talent. Harris being BigDogs son makes this turn of events even more reasonable to me. We knew he was good but to see him win a starters spot right out of the gate is a very good sign that we indeed have a ton of talent on this years team.

Anytime a frosh starts in an experienced program with good players that is a GREAT sign.

To leapfrog Colvin and Heide, guys that could start on a few other B10 programs, is just MONSTEROUS if true.

This EXCITES me. 🎉🎉
 
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There’s talk on the other board about how good Harris is already. Brian has gone as far as to say he will probably start and that he is a great defender, possibly one of the best we have seen at Purdue.
Some people (IU fans) are saying it’s a bad sign that a frosh is starting over Heide/Colvin but Brian has explained it as Painter wanting a second ball handler next to Smith and not a knock on the two sophomores.

My question is, for you, is it a bad sign or is it a good sign that a frosh is possibly winning a starters role out of the gate?

For me it’s a good sign. We are incredibly deep with talent and we all know that Heide and Colvin are solid players. It’s going to be tough for Painter to manage the minutes with this much talent. Harris being BigDogs son makes this turn of events even more reasonable to me. We knew he was good but to see him win a starters spot right out of the gate is a very good sign that we indeed have a ton of talent on this years team.
That is so not a good sign. It's a GREAT SIGN!!

As you say, one of the primary reasons is the value in having a 2nd primary ballhandler (we saw how valuable that was with Lance) but even with that, Harris being ready this early only serves to elevate Purdue's ceiling.

Hell, I still think there's a chance that Jacobsen start's this year too as having a rim protector continues to be important and it would help keep TKR out of foul trouble.
 
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There’s talk on the other board about how good Harris is already. Brian has gone as far as to say he will probably start and that he is a great defender, possibly one of the best we have seen at Purdue.
Some people (IU fans) are saying it’s a bad sign that a frosh is starting over Heide/Colvin but Brian has explained it as Painter wanting a second ball handler next to Smith and not a knock on the two sophomores.

My question is, for you, is it a bad sign or is it a good sign that a frosh is possibly winning a starters role out of the gate?

For me it’s a good sign. We are incredibly deep with talent and we all know that Heide and Colvin are solid players. It’s going to be tough for Painter to manage the minutes with this much talent. Harris being BigDogs son makes this turn of events even more reasonable to me. We knew he was good but to see him win a starters spot right out of the gate is a very good sign that we indeed have a ton of talent on this years team.
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And i'm excited by the prospect of potentially seeing Cam and Myles together. I figured one would be backing up the other. I think they can be a dynamic pair of forwards against 2nd squads if this comes true.
 
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One other thing - Painter had Morton and Jenkins. Each provided something to the team but never 100% relief for Braden having the ball at all times. No knock on either of them but they were missing something.

Lance had that “it” factor to him. Hard nosed defender, balls of steel to take a shot when we needed it and a short term memory. I assume Gicarri has “it” as well.

Lastly, look at teams who make deep runs consistently and what they have in common - multiple ball-handlers who can go and get a bucket.
 
Great sign. What iu think and the fact he is grobs son are irrelevant. It’s been reported several times he was the most college ready of the commits and he fits the void left by Lance well so I’m not surprised. There’s also been some speculation Heide can start at the 4 with TKR at the 5. I think Heide and Colvin will still get plenty of minutes.
 
The hype from high school was that he was an awesome defender, an outstanding ball handler and a great shooter. He was also a tremendous leader and made those around him better.

It should be said that this was a player that Painter was still recruiting even though he had reached his scholarship limit. And painter said This is the guy ewe want and need.

I’m not a huge fan of Painters’s 3 guard offense. But if you are going to put a guard in the 3 spot, Harris is probably the best choice and most talented player for the position.

Braden and Loyer were outstanding as freshmen. I have to believe Harris will be just as good.

As for Cox, Myles, Heide and all the rest, they are still great players, but Harris is better.

As I look at all the players painter was recruiting this summer, I have to believe they saw Harris and didn’t want to compete with him for playing time.

Is Harris better than Haralson and Mullins and Sisley and all the rest? I don’t know. But he could be.
 
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The hype from high school was that he was an awesome defender, an outstanding ball handler and a great shooter. He was also a tremendous leader and made those around him better.

It should be said that this was a player that Painter was still recruiting even though he had reached his scholarship limit. And painter said This is the guy ewe want and need.

I’m not a huge fan of Painters’s 3 guard offense. But if you are going to put a guard in the 3 spot, Harris is probably the best choice and most talented player for the position.

Braden and Loyer were outstanding as freshmen. I have to believe Harris will be just as good.

As for Cox, Myles, Heide and all the rest, they are still great players, but Harris is better.

As I look at all the players painter was recruiting this summer, I have to believe they saw Harris and didn’t want to compete with him for playing time.

Is Harris better than Haralson and Mullins and Sisley and all the rest? I don’t know. But he could be.
Who said he was a great shooter? That’s something he said he had to work on. I’ve read he’s got good form but inconsistent. I also have never seen anyone say he was an outstanding ball handler. The scouting reports including his own assessment is he can facilitate and be a backup PG but his strength is he plays bigger than he is. Real physical player and can take it inside who is capable of hitting 3s. Actually sounds very similar to jones.
 
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Who said he was a great shooter? That’s something he said he had to work on. I’ve read he’s got good form but inconsistent. I also have never seen anyone say he was an outstanding ball handler. The scouting reports including his own assessment is he can facilitate and be a backup PG but his strength is he plays bigger than he is. Real physical player and can take it inside who is capable of hitting 3s. Actually sounds very similar to jones.
I guess it depends on the definition. He shot 43% from three last season at Grayson and here are the first two scouting reports I found:

Most important though may be his ability to shoot the basketball. Harris has one of the cleaner releases of any prospect inside the Top247 with pretty rotation on his ball.


At his size, he is able to handle, shoot, and pass in multiple situations. A comfortable secondary ball handler, Harris can initiate offense and get his team into sets. He is a reliable three-point shooter with range and confidence.
 
Benson only made the IHSAA State Finals during his sophomore season losing in the afternoon at Hinkle Fieldhouse to Elkhart Central in OT, lost to Yorktown (Parkinson) his junior year in the New Castle Regional, again lost in the New Castle Regional during his senior season.
 
Agree with others. This sounds like Harris is ready to go and will provide what Painter needs.

There are so many great players that I feel like Painter is going to be able to create a lot of mismatches using Heide, Colvin, Harris, and the others.

Not worried about Harris's shot, as I don't think that'll be his primary responsibility, BUT if he was already shooting 43% from three in high school, I think he'll be fine.
 
I guess it depends on the definition. He shot 43% from three last season at Grayson and here are the first two scouting reports I found:

Most important though may be his ability to shoot the basketball. Harris has one of the cleaner releases of any prospect inside the Top247 with pretty rotation on his ball.


At his size, he is able to handle, shoot, and pass in multiple situations. A comfortable secondary ball handler, Harris can initiate offense and get his team into sets. He is a reliable three-point shooter with range and confidence.
Reliable and great are two different things. 43% is great for big ten basketball, but I wouldn’t call that great for high school. I think Nojel eastern had similar shooting in high school. I just wouldn’t advertise that as a strength especially after he said that is something he needs to work on. Again I see him similar to Lance jones.
 
Reliable and great are two different things. 43% is great for big ten basketball, but I wouldn’t call that great for high school. I think Nojel eastern had similar shooting in high school. I just wouldn’t advertise that as a strength especially after he said that is something he needs to work on. Again I see him similar to Lance jones.


Perhaps Nojel shot 43% from the foul line.....3... doubt it.
 
There’s talk on the other board about how good Harris is already. Brian has gone as far as to say he will probably start and that he is a great defender, possibly one of the best we have seen at Purdue.
Some people (IU fans) are saying it’s a bad sign that a frosh is starting over Heide/Colvin but Brian has explained it as Painter wanting a second ball handler next to Smith and not a knock on the two sophomores.

My question is, for you, is it a bad sign or is it a good sign that a frosh is possibly winning a starters role out of the gate?

For me it’s a good sign. We are incredibly deep with talent and we all know that Heide and Colvin are solid players. It’s going to be tough for Painter to manage the minutes with this much talent. Harris being BigDogs son makes this turn of events even more reasonable to me. We knew he was good but to see him win a starters spot right out of the gate is a very good sign that we indeed have a ton of talent on this years team.
I’d say it means Gicarri is being rewarded for not being afraid of competing for minutes.
 
One other thing - Painter had Morton and Jenkins. Each provided something to the team but never 100% relief for Braden having the ball at all times. No knock on either of them but they were missing something.

Lance had that “it” factor to him. Hard nosed defender, balls of steel to take a shot when we needed it and a short term memory. I assume Gicarri has “it” as well.

Lastly, look at teams who make deep runs consistently and what they have in common - multiple ball-handlers who can go and get a bucket.
My post awhile back , who fills Lance's shoes , was a critical pc..Lance helped take us beyond 1 dimensional, provided the X factor with ball handling , for CMP not to go the portal, perhaps he had insight hopes in this. We definitely need it , to maintain greatness.
 
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My post awhile back , who fills Lance's shoes , was a critical pc..Lance helped take us beyond 1 dimensional, provided the X factor with ball handling , for CMP not to go the portal, perhaps he had insight hopes in this. We definitely need it , to maintain greatness.
sorry - probably missed it!

He certainly has the pedigree and I’m excited to watch his development.
 
There’s talk on the other board about how good Harris is already. Brian has gone as far as to say he will probably start and that he is a great defender, possibly one of the best we have seen at Purdue.
Some people (IU fans) are saying it’s a bad sign that a frosh is starting over Heide/Colvin but Brian has explained it as Painter wanting a second ball handler next to Smith and not a knock on the two sophomores.

My question is, for you, is it a bad sign or is it a good sign that a frosh is possibly winning a starters role out of the gate?

For me it’s a good sign. We are incredibly deep with talent and we all know that Heide and Colvin are solid players. It’s going to be tough for Painter to manage the minutes with this much talent. Harris being BigDogs son makes this turn of events even more reasonable to me. We knew he was good but to see him win a starters spot right out of the gate is a very good sign that we indeed have a ton of talent on this years team.
Great sign. When good reports started coming out of practice about Braden Smith his freshman year, some people thought it spelled trouble for Purdue. Let the IU fans think we are in trouble. 😁 Painter found his future Lance Jones.
 
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Tbh, I trust painter and his evaluation for what’s best.
Agree. This team was always going to be about how far Braden, Fetch, and Trey could carry them and who are the best players to complement those three.

What if instead of Myles and Cam providing upside on offense, your other two starters are Gicarri and Caleb with a focus on just playing smart, nasty defense, great effort on both heads of the floor and rebounding the heck out of the ball?

Myles, Cam and at least one of the bigs will have their roles. For anyone to assume that they know better than MP how best to maximize the upside of this team is either pure hubris or the Sleepers type of hot take clickbait nonsense.
 
Benson only made the IHSAA State Finals during his sophomore season losing in the afternoon at Hinkle Fieldhouse to Elkhart Central in OT, lost to Yorktown (Parkinson) his junior year in the New Castle Regional, again lost in the New Castle Regional during his senior season.
was at the game in New Castle when Yorktown beat New Castle, Parkinson took it to Benson
 
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I was at Spartan Bowl for the Connersville Regional watching Connersville play Rushville that Friday night when the public address announcer announced, “A score from New Castle….” with New Castle point total first …then Yorktown’s. A big roar went up from the Connersville crowd!
 
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CBS Sports agrees this team is top 10 worthy. Braden & Fletch are committed to making it back to the FF and winning this time. This team can be special by March. My personal expectation is Sweet 16/Elite 8 this year and NC in Indy next year! Talent is already there and trust Painter/Staff to shore up any needs between now and next summer.
I agree with the assessment that if this team stays healthy they should be in a position to make real noise in the NCAAT. I get the excitement of potentially bringing everyone back for '25/'26 but it's likely that Braden, Fletch and Trey will be the big three in both years. If they're really good, I don't know why they couldn't make a FF run this year.
 
CBS Sports agrees this team is top 10 worthy. Braden & Fletch are committed to making it back to the FF and winning this time. This team can be special by March. My personal expectation is Sweet 16/Elite 8 this year and NC in Indy next year! Talent is already there and trust Painter/Staff to shore up any needs between now and next summer.
I am going with 2025 Elite 8 and 2026 NC in Indy. That's like a home game!
 
I am going with 2025 Elite 8 and 2026 NC in Indy. That's like a home game!
For sure if we can get to the Midwest regional (Indianapolis) this year as whatever seed, I’d feel that’d be very much to our advantage.

Next year for the Midwest bracket, it’s St. Louis first weekend, Chicago second weekend and then Indy for the finals. That’d be an excellent route. Hope it all can happen.
 
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There’s talk on the other board about how good Harris is already. Brian has gone as far as to say he will probably start and that he is a great defender, possibly one of the best we have seen at Purdue.
Some people (IU fans) are saying it’s a bad sign that a frosh is starting over Heide/Colvin but Brian has explained it as Painter wanting a second ball handler next to Smith and not a knock on the two sophomores.

My question is, for you, is it a bad sign or is it a good sign that a frosh is possibly winning a starters role out of the gate?

For me it’s a good sign. We are incredibly deep with talent and we all know that Heide and Colvin are solid players. It’s going to be tough for Painter to manage the minutes with this much talent. Harris being BigDogs son makes this turn of events even more reasonable to me. We knew he was good but to see him win a starters spot right out of the gate is a very good sign that we indeed have a ton of talent on this years team.
Not worried at all about Heide and Colvin. Whether they start or not, they will get plenty of minutes.
 
Anytime a frosh starts in an experienced program with good players that is a GREAT sign.

To leapfrog Colvin and Heide, guys that could start on a few other B10 programs, is just MONSTEROUS if true.

This EXCITES me. 🎉🎉
God Bless You Buck. You said something nice about someone named Harris.

Just funnin' with you since I know you have a good sense of humor.

Go Boilers!
 
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