Colvin and Heide 3P splits

[boilerzz]

I don't understand it.

Through the first 40 games of his career, Colvin was 38-89 from three. That's 42.7% which is phenomenal. Over his last 12 games, he's 10-42 (23.8%) and that includes a 4-8 game against Nebraska. Without that game, he's 6-34 (Woof....17.6%).

Concurrently, through the first 48 games of his career, Cam Heide was 29-58 from three. That's a tremendous 50.0%. Over his last 13 games, he's 4-29 (Yikes....13.8%).

Through much larger sample sizes, Colvin and Heide showed to be very good shooters and they've fallen off a cliff. Any thoughts?

 

[ImRonBurgandy?]

Colvin's shot just looks off to me. Doesnt seem as smooth as it once was.

Hopefully, they get their collective shooting funk out now and are lights out in March.

 

[boilerzz]

Colvin's shot just looks off to me. Doesnt seem as smooth as it once was.

Hopefully, they get their collective shooting funk out now and are lights out in March.

Agreed. It looks like he's got a hitch on it or he's not releasing it at the apex.

 

[rjmpu82]

I would be curious to hear the coach's perspectives comparing how he shoots in practice vs shooting in games.

 

[02Boilermaker]

A lot of the recent misses have been off of good or wide open looks which makes it even more puzzling. I'm sure some of it is mental yips at this point, and hopefully that aspect can be overcome.

Another thought: is it partly due to the fact that so many of their looks prior to this year came from Zach kicking the ball out of the post? When you're standing still at the arc, looking at the ball and the rim, and expecting Zach to kick it out to you when the other team doubles, isn't it simply an easier shot to execute? With Braden creating offense, you don't know when you're going to get the ball or where it's going to come from. While it seemingly wouldn't account for such a precipitous drop in %, could that be playing at least a small role? I seem to remember our 3Pt% dropping a few years back as Jaden took over the reins and pretty much created the offense. Is it just the same thing happening here?

 

[Chi-Boiler]

I know one thing. We won't go far in the tournament if these guys can't contribute. Anything. Doesn't even have to be 3s, although that's the topic at hand.

 

[qazplm]

A lot of the recent misses have been off of good or wide open looks which makes it even more puzzling. I'm sure some of it is mental yips at this point, and hopefully that aspect can be overcome.

Another thought: is it partly due to the fact that so many of their looks prior to this year came from Zach kicking the ball out of the post? When you're standing still at the arc, looking at the ball and the rim, and expecting Zach to kick it out to you when the other team doubles, isn't it simply an easier shot to execute? With Braden creating offense, you don't know when you're going to get the ball or where it's going to come from. While it seemingly wouldn't account for such a precipitous drop in %, could that be playing at least a small role? I seem to remember our 3Pt% dropping a few years back as Jaden took over the reins and pretty much created the offense. Is it just the same thing happening here?

I don't know about anyone else, but if I'm shooting a 3 with Edey down there, the pressure is lower because even if I miss, there's a decent chance he gets the rebound.

Now, it's a lot lower (as is our rebounding in general) so if I miss them it's more likely going the other way.

A lot of shooting is mental.

 

[RossMackey]

I don't understand it.

Through the first 40 games of his career, Colvin was 38-89 from three. That's 42.7% which is phenomenal. Over his last 12 games, he's 10-42 (23.8%) and that includes a 4-8 game against Nebraska. Without that game, he's 6-34 (Woof....17.6%).

Concurrently, through the first 48 games of his career, Cam Heide was 29-58 from three. That's a tremendous 50.0%. Over his last 13 games, he's 4-29 (Yikes....13.8%).

Through much larger sample sizes, Colvin and Heide showed to be very good shooters and they've fallen off a cliff. Any thoughts?

"woof" and "yikes" indeed....

I'd like to think it's a sophomore slump-- and the accompanying pressure of knowing they are now more relied upon to provide perimeter scoring, as opposed to not having too much expected of them as freshmen.

There are multiple examples (Zach, Mason, Carsen, Eifert, etc.) of the time it takes before the light comes on for so many players coming through Painter's system.

As much as we would all love to see people be dominant from the outset -- those instances are pretty rare.

 

[northside100]

I don't understand it.

Through the first 40 games of his career, Colvin was 38-89 from three. That's 42.7% which is phenomenal. Over his last 12 games, he's 10-42 (23.8%) and that includes a 4-8 game against Nebraska. Without that game, he's 6-34 (Woof....17.6%).

Concurrently, through the first 48 games of his career, Cam Heide was 29-58 from three. That's a tremendous 50.0%. Over his last 13 games, he's 4-29 (Yikes....13.8%).

Through much larger sample sizes, Colvin and Heide showed to be very good shooters and they've fallen off a cliff. Any thoughts?

Brutal. It's not like they're not getting good looks.

 

[BoilerDaddy]

Like TKR’s free throw struggles, I think it’s mental and a little confidence will go a long way. It’s like a batting slump in baseball. It’s something that most athletes have to contend with at some point in their careers. Dwelling on it helps nothing.

 

[Boiler Roastie]

I don't understand it.

Through the first 40 games of his career, Colvin was 38-89 from three. That's 42.7% which is phenomenal. Over his last 12 games, he's 10-42 (23.8%) and that includes a 4-8 game against Nebraska. Without that game, he's 6-34 (Woof....17.6%).

Concurrently, through the first 48 games of his career, Cam Heide was 29-58 from three. That's a tremendous 50.0%. Over his last 13 games, he's 4-29 (Yikes....13.8%).

Through much larger sample sizes, Colvin and Heide showed to be very good shooters and they've fallen off a cliff. Any thoughts?

Well the way you normally do this at Purdue is to play defense like your life depended on it. The offense will come.

 

[boilerzz]

Well the way you normally do this at Purdue is to play defense like your life depended on it. The offense will come.

But that’s what is wild. The offense came early….and then took a hiatus.

 

[mryankee2397]

since the nebraska game, smith is 2-15, so it just isnt heide and colvin that have dropped off

 

[BoilerDaddy]

But that’s what is wild. The offense came early….and then took a hiatus.

Slumps happen. Harris had his early and now is shooting with confidence. I recall this board getting frustrated when Loyer went through a slump. What I see from the guys who are struggling now is that they are doing other things to contribute. I do believe that this will get straightened out.

 

[HUD628]

Painter talked about Heide last week and how everything changed for him game 1 when Jacobsen went down. The role Cam is playing right now is not what they were planning on. So I guess there's some reason to cut him a little slack if you want. Colvin, man, idk. Just does not look good, and with Cox and Harris both settling in, his minutes could really dwindle.