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College Aff Action struck down

That's my point. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the folks in this forum. For years I've been saying there is still systemic racism and I get shot down all the time. Now, the topic of affirmative action gets shot down in the supreme court and then you or someone says that affirmative action is systemic racism. If you did not say that there is no systemic racism, I don't remember you substantiating my claim. So, is systemic racism exist? Or is affirmative action the only so called systemic racism that you know of?
Systemic racism and racism are two different things.
I won't argue that racism exists, still.
But there are no laws discriminating against anyone except white Caucasian males.
 
Systemic racism and racism are two different things.
I won't argue that racism exists, still.
But there are no laws discriminating against anyone except white Caucasian males.
Stop crying and being a victim. Get over it.
 
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Everyone knows about slavery around the world. Just read the Bible. Just read and watch gladiator movies. No need to mention these events when talking about US slavery.

Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation, contrary to what we were all taught in high school history class did not free anyone. The Emancipation Proclamation was a military document that allowed enslaved blacks in the south to fight for the Union Army because they badly needed bodies to fight. The slaves in the northern states remained slaves.
I think you said the same things I said except I added Grant's wife didn't get rid of the 4 slaves until he advanced in the army. Slavery has always been a blight on humanity. However, slavery and the Civil War is not as black and white and most would think for the north, south, slave owners, slaves, and neighbors of slave owners. Slavery was always wrong everywhere and that goes for the slaves treated significantly better than John BRown's childhood friend. Anyway, it is complex and I don't pretend to have all the answers of what should have happened...and most importantly when. FWIW, I can't remember what my US history teacher taught and only a couple of things in soc/psy he taught (IQ visual identification). I do recall his "style" and later he taught in a local college for MANY years in sociology and psychology
 
Let’s keep it simple. The topic of slavery did not come up to talk about victimization. It came up when someone mentioned that John Adams did not own slaves and other typical points people try to justify the US roll in it. Then I corrected him saying that Washington, Jefferson and other presidents had hundreds of slaves each. Nothing about being victims came up. That’s when Boiler Buck chimed in and said get over it.
The topic of slavery is obviously a topic of victimization. Slaves themselves were and are victims in an immoral system. But those in the US who came many generations after them cannot rightfully claim to be victims of slavery.
Now to your point and back to the topic at hand…kinda. White women have been the biggest beneficiaries of affirmative action since its inception. I never hear you and others tell white women to take care of themselves and stop taking government handouts.
That you don't hear things with your selective hearing doesn't mean people don't believe those things. I would tell women and anyone else who focus their lives and futures on being a victim to change course, get educated to the extent they can, and take care of themselves and their families whether they qualify for government handouts or not. Don't you agree with that?
 
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You incorrectly keep bringing up the 90s crime bill. The 80s crack cocaine epidemic happened in the…..80s. Way before the 90s crime bill.
I'm not talking about the GD 90's crime bill. Jesus, do you even read anything that people show you for evidence? When are you going to learn?


"In the '80s and '90s, many black leaders supported tough anti-drug laws. Facing an inner-city explosion of gang activity, violent crime and a crack epidemic, black politicians pressured Congress to pass these laws."

"When President Ronald Reagan signed the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 into law — the law that punished crack cocaine dealers far more harshly than powder cocaine dealers — Harlem's Rep. Charlie Rangel stood right behind Reagan."

"The black mayor of Baltimore, Kurt Schmoke, said: "I believe the crime bill ... is part of the answer, and the crime bill should be supported by us. We do need to send a signal throughout our communities that certain types of activities will not be tolerated, that people will be held accountable and that if there is evil manifested by actions taken by individuals who choose to prey upon our residents that that evil will be responded to quickly and correctly." "
 
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I'm not talking about the GD 90's crime bill. Jesus, do you even read anything that people show you for evidence? When are you going to learn?


"In the '80s and '90s, many black leaders supported tough anti-drug laws. Facing an inner-city explosion of gang activity, violent crime and a crack epidemic, black politicians pressured Congress to pass these laws."

"When President Ronald Reagan signed the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 into law — the law that punished crack cocaine dealers far more harshly than powder cocaine dealers — Harlem's Rep. Charlie Rangel stood right behind Reagan."

"The black mayor of Baltimore, Kurt Schmoke, said: "I believe the crime bill ... is part of the answer, and the crime bill should be supported by us. We do need to send a signal throughout our communities that certain types of activities will not be tolerated, that people will be held accountable and that if there is evil manifested by actions taken by individuals who choose to prey upon our residents that that evil will be responded to quickly and correctly." "
He lives in an alternate reality where facts that go against his narrative or whatever Joe Madison told him to believe are to be ignored. Me calling him dumb has nothing to do with race and everything to do with him behaving like he does and being dumb.
 
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Everyone knows about slavery around the world. Just read the Bible. Just read and watch gladiator movies. No need to mention these events when talking about US slavery.

Lincoln’s Emancipation Proclamation, contrary to what we were all taught in high school history class did not free anyone. The Emancipation Proclamation was a military document that allowed enslaved blacks in the south to fight for the Union Army because they badly needed bodies to fight. The slaves in the northern states remained slaves.
I find it hard to believe that any educated person, would argue that slavery, with ended 150 years ago, is still impacting blacks today.
Of course, race hustlers like those on urban radio or Rev Al are going to claim is does because it gives people an excuse.
Rise above the victimhood.
 
I'm not talking about the GD 90's crime bill. Jesus, do you even read anything that people show you for evidence? When are you going to learn?


"In the '80s and '90s, many black leaders supported tough anti-drug laws. Facing an inner-city explosion of gang activity, violent crime and a crack epidemic, black politicians pressured Congress to pass these laws."

"When President Ronald Reagan signed the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 into law — the law that punished crack cocaine dealers far more harshly than powder cocaine dealers — Harlem's Rep. Charlie Rangel stood right behind Reagan."

"The black mayor of Baltimore, Kurt Schmoke, said: "I believe the crime bill ... is part of the answer, and the crime bill should be supported by us. We do need to send a signal throughout our communities that certain types of activities will not be tolerated, that people will be held accountable and that if there is evil manifested by actions taken by individuals who choose to prey upon our residents that that evil will be responded to quickly and correctly." "
Yeah, I know all of that. Again, that’s my point. From what I understand that 1986 Anti-Drug bill did not single out just crack cocaine offenses. The bill was supposed to be for all drug offenses. Therefore, those caught with powdered cocaine, mostly white, should have been dealt with harsher sentences and they were not. No matter how you look at it, the system favored white drug offenders.
 
Yeah, I know all of that. Again, that’s my point. From what I understand that 1986 Anti-Drug bill did not single out just crack cocaine offenses. The bill was supposed to be for all drug offenses. Therefore, those caught with powdered cocaine, mostly white, should have been dealt with harsher sentences and they were not. No matter how you look at it, the system favored white drug offenders.
Dude, learn to read. It's right there in the sections that I quoted for you. Let me highlight the part you're misinformed about.

"When President Ronald Reagan signed the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 into law — the law that punished crack cocaine dealers far more harshly than powder cocaine dealers — Harlem's Rep. Charlie Rangel stood right behind Reagan."
 
Dude, learn to read. It's right there in the sections that I quoted for you. Let me highlight the part you're misinformed about.

"When President Ronald Reagan signed the Anti-Drug Abuse Act of 1986 into law — the law that punished crack cocaine dealers far more harshly than powder cocaine dealers — Harlem's Rep. Charlie Rangel stood right behind Reagan."
I saw that. It says that “the law that punished crack cocaine dealers far more harshly than powder cocaine dealers“. It does not say that it was in the law: the law itself punished crack cocaine dealers more harshly. For the sake of argument that it did, the law would have still favored the white powdered cocaine dealer which would have made it a systemic issue.
 
I saw that. It says that “the law that punished crack cocaine dealers far more harshly than powder cocaine dealers“. It does not say that it was in the law: the law itself punished crack cocaine dealers more harshly. For the sake of argument that it did, the law would have still favored the white powdered cocaine dealer which would have made it a systemic issue.
Do you ever check what you hear on urban radio, or just accept it as fact?

'Smoking crack cocaine produces faster-acting euphoric effects, which is one of the reasons it became popular in the mid-1980s. As a result, in 1986, the Anti-Drug Abuse Act differentiated crack from other forms of cocaine, harshening legal consequences for possession and use of the dangerous and illegal substance.'

 
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Do you ever check what you hear on urban radio, or just accept it as fact?

'Smoking crack cocaine produces faster-acting euphoric effects, which is one of the reasons it became popular in the mid-1980s. As a result, in 1986, the Anti-Drug Abuse Act differentiated crack from other forms of cocaine, harshening legal consequences for possession and use of the dangerous and illegal substance.'

Nope. Nope. Nope. They made harsher sentences for crack cocaine for sole reason was to lock up more blacks. They differentiated crack cocaine alright. I don’t buy it. Blacks through the years saw through that.

You will like this. The CIA were the ones who flooded the urban areas with crack cocaine starting in late 70s in the first place.
 
Perhaps the Asian students should have gone after the IVY League schools for legacy enrollment instead of getting rid of affirmative action.

Since you’re so consumed with racism, hard to understand why you’re against affirmative action. That just doesn’t add up.
 
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Since you’re so consumed with racism, hard to understand why you’re against affirmative action. That just doesn’t add up.
To me and most blacks, and apparently white women, affirmative action is not racism. Affirmative action corrected the many years blacks were passed up for education and employment. If it wasn’t for affirmation action, Clarence Thomas may not have become Supreme Court justice. Even though he claims that affirmation action was his downfall. If wasn’t for affirmation action, Dr. Ben Carson may have not become the renowned neurosurgeon that he was. Perhaps the conjoined twins that he helped separate would have never been separated. I always kinda viewed affirmative action as a form of reparation. The bottom line is that if the US did not discriminate against blacks and others during the Jim Crow era, there would not be any need for affirmative action, voting rights bills, or civil rights bills. Blacks were doing quite well the 7 years after the Civil War. Blacks were appointed to the US Senate. Ran for and won US congress seats. Won local elections etc. Until all hell broke loose when Jim Crow started in the Kate 1870s.

On the flip side, y’all are pretty quiet commenting on legacy admissions that mostly whites benefit from. Perhaps that is why the Asian students could not get into the Ivy League schools instead of affirmative action. Legacy admission was the only reason a ne’er do well like Bush the Younger got into Yale. If it wasn’t for legacy admissions, perhaps Bush the Younger would not have gotten into Yale. Become governor. Then became president. Then perhaps literally thousands of US soldiers would not have gotten killed and thousands more maimed for life in 2 stupid wars.
 
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Since you’re so consumed with racism, hard to understand why you’re against affirmative action. That just doesn’t add up.

And crickets from BNI on the slavery movie thread. I cannot imagine anyone who has posted more about slavery than BNI & not one peep on the Sound of Freedom movie thread.
Just doesn't make sense.... hypocrite???
 
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And crickets from BNI on the slavery movie thread. I cannot imagine anyone who has posted more about slavery than BNI & not one peep on the Sound of Freedom movie thread.
Just doesn't make sense??
What is there to comment about? I never saw the movie and don’t know what you want me to say about it. So it’s a slavery movie. I saw many slavery movies.
 
What is there to comment about? I never saw the movie and don’t know what you want me to say about it. So it’s a slavery movie. I saw many slavery movies.

What I am saying that slavery is your #1 topic.

More slavery today than ever. Just because this movie is NOT about black slavery doesn't mean you shouldn't care, shouldn't watch. imo it kinda makes you a bit of a hypocrite. But you do you.
 
What makes urban radio think that? What was the CIA's purpose?
Has nothing to do with urban radio. It was part of that Iran/Contra fiasco. I reckon since the FBI wasn’t involved you haven’t heard about this. If you think the FBI is corrupt, research this.
 
What I am saying that slavery is your #1 topic.

More slavery today than ever. Just because this movie is NOT about black slavery doesn't mean you shouldn't care, shouldn't watch. imo it kinda makes you a bit of a hypocrite. But you do you.
I never said didn’t care. I like a good movie, particularly movies based on true stories. Probably catch it on RedBox when it gets there. Cut me some slack, jack.
 
Has nothing to do with urban radio. It was part of that Iran/Contra fiasco. I reckon since the FBI wasn’t involved you haven’t heard about this. If you think the FBI is corrupt, research this.
You said late 1970s. Iran contra was 10 years later.
 
You said late 1970s. Iran contra was 10 years later.
First of all I said late 70s or early 80s. I’ve talked about this before and I know I mentioned early 80s. If I left it out this time that is what I meant. Either way the Iran/Contra yes broke in the mid 80s during Reagan. The events, including the crack cocaine, in urban areas that led up to the story breaking was years before it broke. A CIA whistleblower in the late 80s or early 90s spilled the tea on one of those evening magazine shows at the time.
 
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Has nothing to do with urban radio. It was part of that Iran/Contra fiasco. I reckon since the FBI wasn’t involved you haven’t heard about this. If you think the FBI is corrupt, research this.
I knew about it, but doubt that it is accurate. That is why I asked you why you think the CIA did such a thing. Since you believe it to be true, you must have a reason why you think it is true - although perhaps the reason is that urban radio said it is true.

The FBI/CIA are flip sides of the same coin, btw.
 
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I knew about it, but doubt that it is accurate. That is why I asked you why you think the CIA did such a thing. Since you believe it to be true, you must have a reason why you think it is true - although perhaps the reason is that urban radio said it is true.

The FBI/CIA are flip sides of the same coin, btw.
Blacks have been talking this CIA/crack cocaine angle for decades. Yes urban radio back in the day. Topic has been brought up from time to time since then. But not just urban radio. Friend have talked about. I’ve had family members talk about it. Matter of fact back in the 80s or early 90s I believe, blacks protested about this event outside the CIA building. No one was arrested until they poured baking powder on the lawn of the CIA building to simulate cocaine. The CIA obviously tested the powder that of course was negative. So the black community has taken those CIA, Contra, inner city drug dealers angle seriously. There was even a congressional hearing about this in 1998.
 
Blacks have been talking this CIA/crack cocaine angle for decades. Yes urban radio back in the day. Topic has been brought up from time to time since then. But not just urban radio. Friend have talked about. I’ve had family members talk about it. Matter of fact back in the 80s or early 90s I believe, blacks protested about this event outside the CIA building. No one was arrested until they poured baking powder on the lawn of the CIA building to simulate cocaine. The CIA obviously tested the powder that of course was negative. So the black community has taken those CIA, Contra, inner city drug dealers angle seriously. There was even a congressional hearing about this in 1998.
I am asking what you think the motivation of the CIA was in this action? What were they hoping to accomplish?
 
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LBJ used “The Great Society” as a gigantic vote buying scheme. Pay girls to have babies out of wedlock. The stats don’t lie.
Interesting that I just posted Jordan Peterson on fatherless homes before seeing this and he specifically mentions the downfall of the black family from the 60s on.
 
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Interesting that I just posted Jordan Peterson on fatherless homes before seeing this and he specifically mentions the downfall of the black family from the 60s on.

When Govt becomes the "Daddy provider", it obviously doesn't work out well for the kids.

But again the left has shown lately a lot of evil toward our kids of late, and this is just where it all started years ago.
 
I am asking what you think the motivation of the CIA was in this action? What were they hoping to accomplish?
Something about raising the money to support the Contras was the word on the street at that time.
 
First of all I said late 70s or early 80s. I’ve talkies about this before and I know I mentioned early 80s. If I left it out this time that is what I meant. Either way the Iran/Contra yes broke in the mid 80s during Reagan. The events, including the crack cocaine, in urban areas that led up to the story breaking was years before it broke. A CIA whistleblower in the late 80s or early 90s spilled the tea on one of those evening magazine shows at the time.
Wrong.

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You are the one who is wrong. You said that the Iran Contra broke 10 years after. Dude, the key is that is when the story blew up and went mainstream. Oliver North and all of that. The actual crack cocaine from CIA into the urban cities happen years earlier late 70s perhaps early 80s. Long time ago, I don’t remember exactly. The bottom line is it was years before what you are trying to say. By that time, crack cocaine was in full swing. Gansta rap music was making music about the violence and drug trading by that time.
 
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