I never said all blacks are on welfare. I said at the time of the New Deal, many took advantage of it and voted D. Doesn't matter if they voted D locally or not. They voted D from the 1930's for the reasons I said. That was the beginning of the block vote for D. Not the 1960's.
How can blacks take advantage FDR’s New Deal in 1936 when blacks were left out of the New Deal, ironically including the welfare program? Again, your presidential election chart still show an increase like you said peaked in 1960, of more than 10% since the 1936 election of blacks voting for a democratic president. Then leveled off well above 80% since then. That coincides with more blacks voting democrat in local, state, and national elections since the late 60s after LBJ signing the Voting Rights and Civil Rights bills.
Did you not read the explanation on how they left blacks out of it? They couldn't explicitly say, no blacks can partake. They chose specific jobs, like being a farmhand, that were exempt. Jobs that had a lot of blacks. That doesn't mean that they excluded all blacks or even the majority of blacks.
Dude, I finally read your article this morning. I'm not sure if you even read it yourself. The article basically corroborated what I've been trying to tell the past day or so. The article said that FDR was not getting into civil rights. Said that the New Deal did not include blacks. Also just like I've been saying to you, the article also said that even though blacks voted for the Democratic candidate, FDR for president, they continued to vote republican in local elections.
With so many jobs available, it’s just surprising that so many are on welfare. Seems like the government could monitor this a bit and make some take a job instead of being on welfare.
Just like colleges going to the high schools to recruit potential college kids, the local trade unions need to go to the high school campuses and recruit kids that do want to or have the grades into college since traditional college is not for everyone. I’m talking about trade unions like the electricians, plumbers, pipefitters, miilwrights, operating engineers etc. Most of the training is free. I know for sure the electrician union training is free. However, you have to still have some aptitude of learning to get into the trade unions. Some of this training can be had at community colleges like IvyTech. A lot of these trade union jobs pay more than several 4 year college degrees plus outstanding health benefits.
LMAO! Both of those quotes help my argument more than yours.
I never said there wasn't systemic racism.
That's my point. I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of the folks in this forum. For years I've been saying there is still systemic racism and I get shot down all the time. Now, the topic of affirmative action gets shot down in the supreme court and then you or someone says that affirmative action is systemic racism. If you did not say that there is no systemic racism, I don't remember you substantiating my claim. So, is systemic racism exist? Or is affirmative action the only so called systemic racism that you know of?
racism exists, but there lies a lot of roadblocks of evidence in the path to call it systemic. Even in the 1700s it wasn't systemic. People like John Adams were already voicing concern over slavery. England had ships in the sea in the 1800s trying to prevent the slavery ships upon delivery. However, the Muslim countries were still importing after the US didn't. Can you be "racist" and still oppose slavery...sure, and there were such in the US. However the word "systemic" is very encompassing and not sure the percentage necessary for accuracy exists in the minds of most...and as we can see today "racism" is not a one way street.
It's amazing how y'all can twist yourselves into knots trying to justify, ignore, or downgrade the US involvement in slavery. Your post covered all of the bases. Number one, deflection. Deflect slavery away from the US to the Muslims. Number two, maximize the minimum. Yes, John Adams and his grandson John Quincy Adams for that matter did not own slaves However, you conveniently left out that the beloved George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, and several others had hundreds of slaves each. Then you say that "Muslim countries were still importing after the US didn't.". Again, you failed to mention that after the US stopped importing Africans to the US for slavery in the very early 1800s, the US was still practicing slavery until the 13th Amendment in 1865.
Again, I thought there is no such thing as systemic racism. That’s what y’all always tell me, right. Affirmative action sure wasn’t a problem when whites women has taken advantage of it.
That’s a pretty mean and insensitive thing to say. The Holocaust ended 78 years ago. Would you tell a Jewish person to get over that?
Wow, that’s what I thought. And most people would not say anything that foolish, about the Jewish Holocaust. My great-great grandparents were enslaved in the US. So that doesn’t matter, huh? I should just get over it, huh? But, you are not the only one in this forum that feel like you do. Most folks, the right wingers in this forum, I know feel just like you do. That’s pretty sad.
If I knew of Jews who considered themselves victims because of the Holocaust, to the extent that they expected the German government to give them special preferences and reparations, I would tell them to 'get over' their victimization mentality.
Let’s keep it simple. The topic of slavery did not come up to talk about victimization. It came up when someone mentioned that John Adams did not own slaves and other typical points people try to justify the US roll in it. Then I corrected him saying that Washington, Jefferson and other presidents had hundreds of slaves each. Nothing about being victims came up. That’s when Boiler Buck chimed in and said get over it.
Dude, y’all are fixated on the left this, liberal that. Forget about them for now. As a black man, I’m telling you that systemic racism still exists. Exists is the legal system like my crack cocaine vs powdered cocaine example, one of many. There is still systemic racism when comes to housing and mortgages. Home appraisers are undervaluing black home sellers compared to white home sellers for example.
Dude. This is why people call you dumb. I've proven to you why there are different sentencing rates for crack vs powdered cocaine. Just a refresher, it had nothing to do with racism because it was black leaders that pushed for the harder sentencing of crack cocaine.
There are no knots at all. The muslims continued to buy the slaves sold to them after the US stopped. I mentioned England in he seas to indicate this was turning. So, the world was starting to recognize what went wrong for thousands of years before, was wrong, but change doesn't happen overnight. Roughly 29% (MAX) of the south owned slaves...and some in the north as well. General Grants wife had four slaves. John Adams was an early advocate, as was his wife and why he was mentioned. Everyone knows Jefferson and Washington had slaves. Jefferson MANY believe was quite fond of a slave. There is no deflection just facts.
You incorrectly keep bringing up the 90s crime bill. The 80s crack cocaine epidemic happened in the…..80s. Way before the 90s crime bill.
You are doubling down on your deflection. The Muslims enslaved Europeans. What does that have to do with the US owning slaves and did nothing about until after the Civil War. Lincoln sure didn’t free any slaves with the Emancipation Proclamation like the high school history books would lead you to believe. The 4 slaves that Gen. Grant inherited from his wife’s family as a wedding gift, he freed them after they got married. That’s one of the noble things a man of his stature and future president did as far as slavery. When talking about US slavery, there is no reason the to bring up the Muslims or the Africans that sold their prisoners of war to the European and American slave traders. They did not force the American ms to own slaves. The Americans went to Africa and got them. The Africans did not sail the Atlantic and dropped them off. And they certainly weren’t immigrants as sadly Dr. Ben Carson says.
Why do you think it’s okay to call black people uncle toms. What? Cause you’re a so called liberal? I bet you don’t care about any black person who isn’t in the professional managerial class.
No it is not doubling down. The reality is, and what I tried to make clear is that "slavery" (as evil as it was and is) was much more common in the history of the world than not and that all of us have ancestry that were slaves and slave owners probably. Slavery has existed much longer than no slavery. I'm not trying to establish a pecking order of slavery because it was all wrong. The other thing I wanted to make clear is that it was just as wrong hundreds of years ago just as much as today, but that it was commonplace across the globe and still has pockets of it existing today and that we cannot judge things years ago with the eyes and understanding of today. Bringing up other areas is not to diminish what went on in the US, but to better understand that the US was not isolated in the use of slavery. ALL of slavery was wrong. That wrong is not diminished by pointing out that Africa sold the slaves. Africa captured, removed and sold their own for profit. Pointing it out doesn't diminish the wrong that happened in the US. Pointing out Biden's travesty at the border doesn't diminish his travesty elsewhere in other areas. If I were to say that pointing out that one tragedy diminished the other it would be closer to deflection away from the statement rather than acknowledging other tragedies were in play.
Nothing. He’s too busy posting serious, rational, and objective posts on truth social. Even Loomer thinks so.
Everyone knows about slavery around the world. Just read the Bible. Just read and watch gladiator movies. No need to mention these events when talking about US slavery.
Just look at how Hillary Clinton destabilized Libya ASM overthrew their government to take their natural resources .. and now it’s a failed state with open slave markets
