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You are the one who is wrong. You said that the Iran Contra broke 10 years after. Dude, the key is that is when the story blew up and went mainstream. Oliver North and all of that. The actual crack cocaine from CIA into the urban cities happen years earlier late 70s perhaps early 80s. Long time ago, I don’t remember exactly. The bottom line is it was years before what you are trying to say. By that time, crack cocaine was in full swing. Gansta rap music was making music about the violence and drug trading by that time.
Any proof of this?
 
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Something about raising the money to support the Contras was the word on the street at that time.
Do you understand that Trump, the guy you constantly call a fool, was working in his attempts to seal the southern border on behalf of blacks and others to reduce deaths from fentanyl overdoses.

In contrast, Biden, the guy you and a majority of other blacks mindlessly voted for, was working on behalf of the drug cartels and against blacks by opening the southern border.

Who is the real fool in this scenario, fauxgrad? You or Trump?

 
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Do you understand that Trump, the guy you constantly call a fool, was working in his attempts to seal the southern border on behalf of blacks and others to reduce deaths from fentanyl overdoses.

In contrast, Biden, the guy you and a majority of other blacks mindlessly voted for, was working on behalf of the drug cartels and against blacks by opening the southern border.

Who is the real fool in this scenario, fauxgrad? You or Trump?

Well, the fool didn’t do a hood job did he? He promised a nice, big wall? There ain’t no wall. He promised that Mexico was going to pay for that nice, big wall? Mexico did not and ain’t paying for crap. For 2 years the regressives had control of the House, Senate, and president and did not pass one bill to allocate money for the wall that would have covered the southern border sans private land and natural barriers.
 
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Well, the fool didn’t do a hood job did he? He promised a nice, big wall? There ain’t no wall. He promised that Mexico was going to pay for that nice, big wall? Mexico did not and ain’t paying for crap. For 2 years the regressives had control of the House, Senate, and president and did not pass one bill to allocate money for the wall that would have covered the southern border sans private land and natural barriers.
Lol “the fool didn’t do a hood job”
 
Well, the fool didn’t do a hood job did he? He promised a nice, big wall? There ain’t no wall. He promised that Mexico was going to pay for that nice, big wall? Mexico did not and ain’t paying for crap. For 2 years the regressives had control of the House, Senate, and president and did not pass one bill to allocate money for the wall that would have covered the southern border sans private land and natural barriers.
That's because establishment dems and repubs wanted an open border to flood the market with cheap labor for themselves and their corporate sponsors. Obviously none of them care about blacks.

Trump was building a wall with money he diverted from DOD. He could have made Mexico pay for it with a tax on remittances from Mexican workers in the US, but he worked out a deal with Mexico to make migrants wait on the Mexico side while their cases were 'adjudicated'.

Bob's savior Biden canceled all that and opened the border. Only a fool would think Joe and other dems care about blacks beyond speeches and virtue signaling, with handouts just high enough to assure the mindless voting they depend on.
 
Who was he doing if for then? It's been well known that minorities are hurt the most by illegal immigration. Who was Trump trying to secure the border for if not for them?
First of all Chump never said that he wanted to build the wall to help blacks. Nor should he. That is very foolish to think so. Any wall built would be to benefit all Americans. Sure there is an increase in fentanyl by blacks, but white folks ain’t too far behind. White people are the biggest employers of these illegal immigtants. Perhaps if the US or states enforce the laws of hiring these people they would stop hiring them. Then they won’t want to come. Because they come mostly to work. The illegals immigrants don’t take our jobs. They are given jobs by Americans that want to pay low wages under the table.
 
First of all Chump never said that he wanted to build the wall to help blacks. Nor should he. That is very foolish to think so. Any wall built would be to benefit all Americans. Sure there is an increase in fentanyl by blacks, but white folks ain’t too far behind. White people are the biggest employers of these illegal immigtants. Perhaps if the US or states enforce the laws of hiring these people they would stop hiring them. Then they won’t want to come. Because they come mostly to work. The illegals immigrants don’t take our jobs. They are given jobs by Americans that want to pay low wages under the table.
You have a very good way of skewing facts to make it to your favor, or to not give Trump credit for doing something good.
 
So what facts did I skew?
The facts that any sort of border security benefits blacks and hispanics the most. The fact that Trump was doing anything to benefit those groups. You never give him any credit and you take pot shots at him for racism when there's none to be had.
 
The facts that any sort of border security benefits blacks and hispanics the most. The fact that Trump was doing anything to benefit those groups. You never give him any credit and you take pot shots at him for racism when there's none to be had.
Oh, I get it now. White people don’t do drugs. Fentanyl, other opioids what have you.
 
This statement has NOTHING to do with what he is talking about. Absolutely nothing.
I swear it's almost as if his brain is completely incapable of thinking in a manner that gives someone he opposes any credit for anything at all. Shifting in ways to skirt the issue but avoid the full truth in order to keep his "ideals".
 
I swear it's almost as if his brain is completely incapable of thinking in a manner that gives someone he opposes any credit for anything at all. Shifting in ways to skirt the issue but avoid the full truth in order to keep his "ideals".
This is because he’s a cultist in a cult. Anything for the party. If that includes ignoring truth, facts, and data, so be it. Party comes first.
 
Where did I say that? I'm not even considering the drugs side. I'm talking about jobs that get taken by illegals. They hurt minorities the most.
First of all, illegal don't take away our jobs. They are GIVEN jobs by Americans that hire them under the table and pay them cash. Y'all keep talking about blacks and Hispanics getting hurt by these people. What about poor whites? There in the same boat as poor black and Hispanics. There are almost as many whites on welfare as blacks. Almost a catch-22. They come here and do the jobs that most Americans don't want to do.

When Chump first got into office, a conservative called into the SiriusXM conservative radio station the "Patriot" channel. He said that he voted for and liked what Chump was doing so far but he took issue with Chump promising to deport all illegals from the country. Apparently, he hires them for his drywall business and said that if that happens, it will turn the construction industry upside down. Again, a lot of Americans break the law and hire these folks. I think if you stop hiring them, most won't have the incentive to come to this country.
 
First of all, illegal don't take away our jobs. They are GIVEN jobs by Americans that hire them under the table and pay them cash. Y'all keep talking about blacks and Hispanics getting hurt by these people. What about poor whites? There in the same boat as poor black and Hispanics. There are almost as many whites on welfare as blacks. Almost a catch-22. They come here and do the jobs that most Americans don't want to do.

When Chump first got into office, a conservative called into the SiriusXM conservative radio station the "Patriot" channel. He said that he voted for and liked what Chump was doing so far but he took issue with Chump promising to deport all illegals from the country. Apparently, he hires them for his drywall business and said that if that happens, it will turn the construction industry upside down. Again, a lot of Americans break the law and hire these folks. I think if you stop hiring them, most won't have the incentive to come to this country.
Who is Chump? Some homeboy down the street from you?

Is the way you talk about your buddy Joe Biden the racist you voted for? Poor taste man, call him your homey
 
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To me and most blacks, and apparently white women, affirmative action is not racism. Affirmative action corrected the many years blacks were passed up for education and employment. If it wasn’t for affirmation action, Clarence Thomas may not have become Supreme Court justice. Even though he claims that affirmation action was his downfall. If wasn’t for affirmation action, Dr. Ben Carson may have not become the renowned neurosurgeon that he was. Perhaps the conjoined twins that he helped separate would have never been separated. I always kinda viewed affirmative action as a form of reparation. The bottom line is that if the US did not discriminate against blacks and others during the Jim Crow era, there would not be any need for affirmative action, voting rights bills, or civil rights bills. Blacks were doing quite well the 7 years after the Civil War. Blacks were appointed to the US Senate. Ran for and won US congress seats. Won local elections etc. Until all hell broke loose when Jim Crow started in the Kate 1870s.

On the flip side, y’all are pretty quiet commenting on legacy admissions that mostly whites benefit from. Perhaps that is why the Asian students could not get into the Ivy League schools instead of affirmative action. Legacy admission was the only reason a ne’er do well like Bush the Younger got into Yale. If it wasn’t for legacy admissions, perhaps Bush the Younger would not have gotten into Yale. Become governor. Then became president. Then perhaps literally thousands of US soldiers would not have gotten killed and thousands more maimed for life in 2 stupid wars.

Do you think admission standards should be different for blacks than whites or Asians?

Or, do you think that just a certain percentage of admissions should be reserved for blacks, and then the schools accept the top performing black students from that admission pool?
 
Do you think admission standards should be different for blacks than whites or Asians?

Or, do you think that just a certain percentage of admissions should be reserved for blacks, and then the schools accept the top performing black students from that admission pool?
Yes, a certain percentage of admissions should be reserved for blacks, and then the schools accept the top-performing black students from that admission pool. If not, and now that affirmative action has been shot down, we may be going back to the old days when qualified blacks could not get into colleges again. To me, I always took affirmative action as a form of reparations.

Nobody talks about legacy admissions. Do you think that something should be done to curtail legacy admissions? The Asian students blamed affirmative action for why they did not get into the Ivy League schools. I believe legacy admissions are a major factor for anybody getting into these schools. That's how somebody that was intellectually deficient like Bush the Younger got into Yale and look how a disaster.
 
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But, you were also told to believe that Trump colluded with Russia. So you did.
Hook line and sinker! Lol

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But, you were also told to believe that Trump colluded with Russia. So you did.
Since you think OJ Simpson was totally guilty of murder, I would have thought that you would have learned that it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. The LA prosecutors could not prove that OJ committed the murders. That does not mean that he did not do it. Similar to the Mueller investigation. He could not prove that Chump colluded with Russia. That does not mean that he did not collude with Russia. The Mueller report sure did not exonerate Chump that's for sure. You can't have it both ways.
 
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Yes, a certain percentage of admissions should be reserved for blacks, and then the schools accept the top-performing black students from that admission pool. If not, and now that affirmative action has been shot down, we may be going back to the old days when qualified blacks could not get into colleges again. To me, I always took affirmative action as a form of reparations.

Nobody talks about legacy admissions. Do you think that something should be done to curtail legacy admissions? The Asian students blamed affirmative action for why they did not get into the Ivy League schools. I believe legacy admissions are a major factor for anybody getting into these schools. That's how somebody that was intellectually deficient like Bush the Younger got into Yale and look how a disaster.

Couple things to unpack here:
Do you think schools weren't accepting as many blacks because of racism or because they didn't meet admission standards? if it's due to racism, do you still think that exists today and with AA struck down, will it grow?

When you say "qualified" blacks, what do you mean? Do you mean qualified compared to all applicants, regardless of race? Or do you mean people who meet the minimum admission requirements?

As far as legacy admissions, this is literally the first time I've ever heard that being an issue. I know you like referencing Bush as a legacy admission to Yale, but that was what, in the 60s? That's 60 years ago. Very different time. I would also bet that the 40% LA you reference for the Ivy League are probably pretty smart kids that come from smart parents. I doubt these schools are admitting a high % of non-qualified students simply because of who their parents are. I sure it occurs to a very small extent for some big donors, but it's not rampant like you're insinuating. So to answer your question, No, I don't think legacy admissions is a problem.
 
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Couple things to unpack here:
Do you think schools weren't accepting as many blacks because of racism or because they didn't meet admission standards? if it's due to racism, do you still think that exists today and with AA struck down, will it grow?

When you say "qualified" blacks, what do you mean? Do you mean qualified compared to all applicants, regardless of race? Or do you mean people who meet the minimum admission requirements?

As far as legacy admissions, this is literally the first time I've ever heard that being an issue. I know you like referencing Bush as a legacy admission to Yale, but that was what, in the 60s? That's 60 years ago. Very different time. I would also bet that the 40% LA you reference for the Ivy League are probably pretty smart kids that come from smart parents. I doubt these schools are admitting a high % of non-qualified students simply because of who their parents are. I sure it occurs to a very small extent for some big donors, but it's not rampant like you're insinuating. So to answer your question, No, I don't think legacy admissions is a problem.
25-30% of Ivy League admissions are legacies which is significant considering only about 10% of applicants overall are admitted. Is it an issue? Of course it is but after 60 years using race to move to the front of the admissions line without considering qualifications it is time to accept the most qualified candidate without racial consideration.
Even training wheels on bikes are removed when you prove you can ride without assistance.
 
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Couple things to unpack here:
Do you think schools weren't accepting as many blacks because of racism or because they didn't meet admission standards? if it's due to racism, do you still think that exists today and with AA struck down, will it grow?

When you say "qualified" blacks, what do you mean? Do you mean qualified compared to all applicants, regardless of race? Or do you mean people who meet the minimum admission requirements?

As far as legacy admissions, this is literally the first time I've ever heard that being an issue. I know you like referencing Bush as a legacy admission to Yale, but that was what, in the 60s? That's 60 years ago. Very different time. I would also bet that the 40% LA you reference for the Ivy League are probably pretty smart kids that come from smart parents. I doubt these schools are admitting a high % of non-qualified students simply because of who their parents are. I sure it occurs to a very small extent for some big donors, but it's not rampant like you're insinuating. So to answer your question, No, I don't think legacy admissions is a problem.
Of course, they weren't accepting blacks and other minorities for that matter because of racism. Again, you must have fallen asleep during high school history class. Why do you think that in 1963, racist Alabama governor, George Wallace literally stood at the entrance of the University of Alabama? He was literally there to prevent black students from enrolling at the university. Federal troops had to escort the 3 black students through. He was not there to just take in the nice scenery of the campus. The year before, James Meridith faced extreme resistance trying to integrate the University of Mississippi. That is the reason why HBCUs were established decades prior so that blacks could get a college education.

Yes, racism still exists today. Yes, it will grow with affirmative action being struck down. The ruling did not include the US military institutions by the way. Plus you got DeSantis getting rid of diversity, equity, and inclusion programs in FL which I believe includes the public universities. Other red states will follow suit.

As far as qualified blacks. I guess I'm talking about qualified compared to all applicants.

Of course, it's the first time I've ever heard of that being an issue. Mainly because whites are the ones that have benefitted from this. You never gave it a thought. You said, "I doubt these schools are admitting a high % of non-qualified students simply because of who their parents are". Are you kidding me? You can't assume that the kids of the alumni of these schools are just as smart. Again look at Bush the Younger. Or even Sen. McCain who got into the Naval Academy because of legacy. These 2 weren't the sharpest tack in the box. Privileged white folks have gone to all extremes to get their dumb ass kids into school. Look at that scandal just a few years back where they created bogus positions and scholarships on college/university tennis, golf, and other athletic teams so that they can get their kids into these schools. And y'all want to whine about a few blacks getting into college because of affirmative action. Dude, give me a break.
 
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25-30% of Ivy League admissions are legacies which is significant considering only about 10% of applicants overall are admitted. Is it an issue? Of course it is but after 60 years using race to move to the front of the admissions line without considering qualifications it is time to accept the most qualified candidate without racial consideration.
Even training wheels on bikes are removed when you prove you can ride without assistance.
You better believe that is significant. But you are wrong. They do consider qualifications with the affirmative action program. A black person with a "C" average or 800 on the SAT coming out of high school is not getting into Yale or most schools regardless of affirmative action or not. I bet you a lot of legacy kids got in with less than stellar high school grades or test scores. After you get in, there is no affirmative action or even legacy when it comes to exams, quizzes, workload.
 
Dude, are you talking to yourself again?
On purpose to see if it would prompt a response from you. It’s good to see that you’ve come to grips about being in a cult. It’s a tough thing for cultists to admit but it has to feel good to get off your chest.
 
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Of course, they weren't accepting blacks and other minorities for that matter because of racism. Again, you must have fallen asleep during high school history class. Why do you think that in 1963, racist Alabama governor, George Wallace literally stood at the entrance of the University of Alabama? He was literally there to prevent black students from enrolling at the university. Federal troops had to escort the 3 black students through. He was not there to just take in the nice scenery of the campus. The year before, James Meridith faced extreme resistance trying to integrate the University of Mississippi. That is the reason why HBCUs were established decades prior so that blacks could get a college education.

Yes, racism still exists today. Yes, it will grow with affirmative action being struck down. The ruling did not include the US military institutions by the way. Plus you got DeSantis getting rid of diversity, equity, and inclusion programs in FL which I believe includes the public universities. Other red states will follow suit.

As far as qualified blacks. I guess I'm talking about qualified compared to all applicants.

Of course, it's the first time I've ever heard of that being an issue. Mainly because whites are the ones that have benefitted from this. You never gave it a thought. You said, "I doubt these schools are admitting a high % of non-qualified students simply because of who their parents are". Are you kidding me? You can't assume that the kids of the alumni of these schools are just as smart. Again look at Bush the Younger. Or even Sen. McCain who got into the Naval Academy because of legacy. These 2 weren't the sharpest tack in the box. Privileged white folks have gone to all extremes to get their dumb ass kids into school. Look at that scandal just a few years back where they created bogus positions and scholarships on college/university tennis, golf, and other athletic teams so that they can get their kids into these schools. And y'all want to whine about a few blacks getting into college because of affirmative action. Dude, give me a break.

You're still stuck in the 60's my man. The US higher education and college system is a bastion of liberalism. You don't think they're going to do everything in their power to admit as many minorities as humanly possible? They live for that $hit.
 
First of all, illegal don't take away our jobs. They are GIVEN jobs by Americans that hire them under the table and pay them cash. Y'all keep talking about blacks and Hispanics getting hurt by these people. What about poor whites? There in the same boat as poor black and Hispanics. There are almost as many whites on welfare as blacks. Almost a catch-22. They come here and do the jobs that most Americans don't want to do.
The highlighted statement here just proves my point above. You're using semantics to somehow try to smooth the facts towards your favor. Who cares how they get the jobs. The results are the same.

There's no catch 22 either. Sure there are roughly the same number of poor blacks, whites and hispanics. It's not about the pure number as much as the percentage of the total that matters most. That's why factually you can say illegal immigration hurts blacks and hispanics more, because the percentage of the total group is much higher than for whites.
When Trump first got into office, a conservative called into the SiriusXM conservative radio station the "Patriot" channel. He said that he voted for and liked what Trump was doing so far but he took issue with Trump promising to deport all illegals from the country. Apparently, he hires them for his drywall business and said that if that happens, it will turn the construction industry upside down.
FIFFY.

And? Are we supposed to feel bad for someone for building their business off of illegals? I won't. If they are that bad at business that they can't do it legitimately, then they have no business being in business. Lots of people fail at business. Sounds like the illegal issue props some up that shouldn't be there.
Again, a lot of Americans break the law and hire these folks. I think if you stop hiring them, most won't have the incentive to come to this country.
You can't be serious. You're telling me that people would stop wanting to come to the US LEGALLY? Why? They wouldn't want to get paid a fair rate? They wouldn't want protections under the law? Please explain why people would stop wanting to come here. I just don't understand that logic.
 
Since you think OJ Simpson was totally guilty of murder, I would have thought that you would have learned that it's not what you know, it's what you can prove. The LA prosecutors could not prove that OJ committed the murders. That does not mean that he did not do it. Similar to the Mueller investigation. He could not prove that Chump colluded with Russia. That does not mean that he did not collude with Russia. The Mueller report sure did not exonerate Chump that's for sure. You can't have it both ways.
Well then the people investigating Trump on ALL of the things they have accused him of are either extremely incompetent or Trump is a criminal mastermind and knows how to cover his tracks. OR they don't really have a case in any of the area's and they've been trying to politically assassinate him. Using the court of public opinion to keep him out of office.

I know which one is true. Do you?
 
You're still stuck in the 60's my man. The US higher education and college system is a bastion of liberalism. You don't think they're going to do everything in their power to admit as many minorities as humanly possible? They live for that $hit.
As long as you have governors, republicans like DeSantis, and others that do not like diversity, will ban DEI in public institutions.
 
You can't be serious. You're telling me that people would stop wanting to come to the US LEGALLY? Why? They wouldn't want to get paid a fair rate? They wouldn't want protections under the law? Please explain why people would stop wanting to come here. I just don't understand that logic.
No. I'm talking about the illegal folks. You know who I'm talking about. It's against the law to hire illegal immigrants, correct? Enforce that law and perhaps a lot won't bother to come. Again a right winger said that if you get rid of the illegal immigrants it would turn the construction industry upside down.
 
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