Bobo dropped the ball
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Brohm must have waved a magic wand over that worse roster and finished 7-6. Apparently he then waved that wand in reverse for three straight losing seasons with his own roster. Only in year five did he finally find Hope.
And now we’ve become the feeder program for the feeder program for the feeder program for Wisconsin. Soon we’ll have another one groomed to go.
For Hope, it was a blessing that he was fired. Alumni Morg was a company man and he was not going to push the Pres.
I have shared this before and I will now again. In 1996 I was setting in the press conference less than 10 ft away from Morg when he publicly stated that "Purdue has no ambitions of Purdue ever being a football school" and look where we are at today
In today's environment it seems like seamless is 7 Days or less with the proper advanced vetting.
We both hope that I am wrong... You are one of the most realistic posters on this forum.
If it takes two weeks and we get the right guy than that's great with me!!
I'm hearing DL Coach from IL and not from Purdue Forums either.....
If that's the case I have mixed thoughts about the process....
Send him packing. This hire sucks. What a bunch of shit. They can kiss my ass when they call for donations and money next year.
Walters is pretty much the opposite of what I was expecting… would have much preferred Helton.
No P5 Head Coaching experience and I bet at the beginning of the season, he would not have been on half of the MAC`s short lists for coaching hires....
Lets see how much $$ BoBo gives him to work with for staff?????
Well this news today was a major bummer. I thought the lesson had been learned that we need a proven pass-first coach. I thought we were getting a big name, all the national sports pundits were saying Purdue is quite the destination right now between the winning season and all the Big Ten money coming in. I believed Bobinski that this hire would be a big one because all the pieces were finally lined up when we needed a football coach.
At least there’s basketball, for now. Hopefully Painter doesn’t retire during Bobinski’s tenure.
At least there’s basketball, for now. Hopefully Painter doesn’t retire during Bobinski’s tenure.
Just because sports pundits are saying that we're now a destination, that doesn't mean any of the coaches we want are going to reciprocate.
It def feels like a more underwhelming hire than I would have thought given a reasonable expectation of who we might be able to get, but Bobo's track record has been pretty good. I feel like we need to give him the benefit of the doubt at least for now
Nope. When Purdue makes an underwhelming hire like Hazel, it’s obvious from the beginning. That’s the case here too. Didn’t follow the only formula that has ever shown success at Purdue. He’s going to have to prove me wrong. It’s going to be an uphill battle, and I’m not giving the benefit of the doubt if we suffer through low-win seasons and field a boring product.
On a sidenote, the world has one less offensive genius today with the news of Mike Leech.
This was a gutless hire. Bobinski knows if Walters doesn't work he can fall back on I hired a top coordinator. If he had gone with Shepard he probably felt he would be more open for criticism. No guts no glory.
how soon we forget that hazell was the guy who recruited 95% of the players that brohm guided to a bowl win in his first year. Brohm may have been a better overall recruiter than hazell, but Hazell didn't leave the cupboard barren.
let's look at the last 4 hires. Tiller, Hope, Hazell, Brohm and now Waters. Does anybody see a trend? all were young(except Tiller). none of them were a big name, experienced coach. None were a successful power 5 head coach. I know everybody here loves Tiller. But how many Bowl games did Tiller win at Wyoming?
is this the best that purdue can do? if so......... then the next 5 hires will be exactly the same as the last 5.
the Bucket game should be an exciting, even match-up.
is this the best that purdue can do? if so......... then the next 5 hires will be exactly the same as the last 5.
the Bucket game should be an exciting, even match-up.
Bobo had proven he is not a division 1 AD. Maybe high school.
Maybe Bobo got inspiration from that Seinfeld episode where George does everything the opposite.
The good news, or maybe the bad news, is after this hire no one is going to be interested in poaching our AD. Anyone randomly selected off this board could do a better job.
I knew Morgan very well. Maybe so did many of you. He had a president who was not sports driven. So the money went to academics. I supposed he could have quit. This is what worries me with a new incoming president who might see money from BTN as a grab bag.
At this point I would welcome that. At least we would be putting the money to good use and it really won't change the number of wins and losses.
Brohm took over a program that was 3-30 in the Big Ten the 4 years before he got there. Brohm is the best coach we had since Tiller and it’s not even remotely close.
Hope tanked a good roster to his record.
Hope underachieved greatly and Brohm overachieved greatly. Kinda hard to believe you cant see that.
If Walters goes 14-19 his first 4 seasons it will be very different than Brohm doing it and he would likely pay with his job.
As stated above …
Hope inherited a 4-8 team that lost its record-setting quarterback, but he still finished 5-7. In year two, he beat No. 7 Ohio State and became only the second Purdue coach ever to win at Michigan. In year three, he lost all of his skill players three deep to season-ending injuries and lost his last six games. In year four, he took Purdue to a bowl and got fired. He beat OSU twice and was within 30 seconds of a third upset. Brohm took over a 3-9 team, finished 7-6 with a bowl, then followed that with three straight losing seasons. In short, he went from winning once to perennial losing until given the fifth and sixth years that Hope never had. Same school. Same conference. Same records after 49 games -- 22-27. Reality.
Since Nobel Keizer head coaching success in the 1930’s, no matter the experience of the following coaches, Purdue always went into the football wilderness after a successful coaching tenure. So WTF give the young coach a chance. History is against him.
Hope took over a team that had an average recruiting class around 50th in the country for the roster and they had won 13 Big Ten games the last 4 years. He then proceeded to recruit worse and not improve the record.
Brohm took over a team whose average recruiting class ranking was 80th in the country and had won 3 Big Ten games in 4 years. He then proceeded to take them to two bowl games immediately (4 bowls in 6 years) and improved recruiting by a ton including one top 25 class.
Brohm is 10X the couch Hope was. Record doesn’t tell the whole story.
Nope. Wins and losses are the result. Everything else adds context. The context in this case resulted in more years, more fan support, and ultimately the best two year stretch in 20 years.
But you do you.
Yes and:
Brohm = over .500 in conference.
Hope = way below .500 in conference.
Brohm = way better than both of Burke’s last 2 failed hires.
