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Bobo dropped the ball

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More than four years to prepare for this inevitability, yet we wait for over a week to replace the coach who all along made it clear where and when he would leave, all while players and recruits are only left to look and be carried off elsewhere.

Rather than blow a full week fishing for future defectors, Bobo should have immediately named Kevin Sumlin or/and Brock Spack to come home to stay. Boilermaker Nation deserves one of its own.

The Big Ten’s founder should never have been reduced to being a stepping stone for outsiders who have no ties whatsoever, not beyond gazing up at the same moon that Purdue graduates first and last walked upon. To hell with them and anyone who puts Purdue in this position.
 
More than four years to prepare for this inevitability, yet we wait for over a week to replace the coach who all along made it clear where and when he would leave, all while players and recruits are only left to look and be carried off elsewhere.

Rather than blow a full week fishing for future defectors, Bobo should have immediately named Kevin Sumlin or/and Brock Spack to come home to stay. Boilermaker Nation deserves one of its own.

The Big Ten’s founder should never have been reduced to being a stepping stone for outsiders who have no ties whatsoever, not beyond gazing up at the same moon that Purdue graduates first and last walked upon. To hell with them and anyone who puts Purdue in this position.
Kevin Sumlin who has crashed and burned during his last two college coaching jobs?

Brock Spack has been a perfectly serviceable FCS coach, but that ship sailed a LONG time ago.

Obviously we're all in suspense, but the right hire will correct most of our recruiting "losses." I don't even think we can see anything as a "loss" until they sign.
 
I have to believe BoBO knew Brohm would be leaving. This leads me to three questions. Is BoBo totally incompetent and didn’t have a plan? I can’t believe this announcement caught him by surprise. Did Bobo have a candidate chosen as a replacement and he went elsewhere or decided to stay where he is? Can Bobo do nothing without forming a committee first?

Maybe Bobo had lined up the TCU coach as Brohm’s replacement. But current events have changed
 
More than four years to prepare for this inevitability, yet we wait for over a week to replace the coach who all along made it clear where and when he would leave, all while players and recruits are only left to look and be carried off elsewhere.

Rather than blow a full week fishing for future defectors, Bobo should have immediately named Kevin Sumlin or/and Brock Spack to come home to stay. Boilermaker Nation deserves one of its own.

The Big Ten’s founder should never have been reduced to being a stepping stone for outsiders who have no ties whatsoever, not beyond gazing up at the same moon that Purdue graduates first and last walked upon. To hell with them and anyone who puts Purdue in this position.
Nominee for worst post of the year!
 
More than four years to prepare for this inevitability, yet we wait for over a week to replace the coach who all along made it clear where and when he would leave, all while players and recruits are only left to look and be carried off elsewhere.

Rather than blow a full week fishing for future defectors, Bobo should have immediately named Kevin Sumlin or/and Brock Spack to come home to stay. Boilermaker Nation deserves one of its own.

The Big Ten’s founder should never have been reduced to being a stepping stone for outsiders who have no ties whatsoever, not beyond gazing up at the same moon that Purdue graduates first and last walked upon. To hell with them and anyone who puts Purdue in this position.
Agree, but this is what we get when we hire a ND baseball player as our AD.
 
Nominee for worst post of the year!
Not the worst post. What a cluster. You know this day was coming. You let lil bro take charge for the bowl game while big bro is pillaging the recruiting ranks.

A press release saying we are in a position to go for a known name. A week later with no results and more than likely a up and coming coach that doesn't make any noise.

Bobo is a fart in the wind. ND alum .. send him packing if he screws this up.
 
Nominee for worst post of the year!
At least he had an original take and expressed it. My definition of the worst post of the year is for those people who don’t have the balls to express their own thoughts but love to shoot down the posts of others!

It’s obvious you don’t like or share his viewpoint. So rather than calling him an idiot, how about offering some of your own opinions?
 
My thoughts are we don’t have to use Brohm’s salary as a starting point. We could hire someone on the cheap. If they do well, give them a raise. If you hire somebody at the same pay as Brohm and they go. 6-6, you are stuck.

One of the first things Brohm did was recruit players to join him at Purdue. Our next coach will need to do the same. One of Brohm’s strengths was his ability to find players at all different levels of play.

I was shocked when Hazell arrived at Purdue he was able to retain all of Hope’s recruits. Hazell did very little recruiting on his own
 
More than four years to prepare for this inevitability, yet we wait for over a week to replace the coach who all along made it clear where and when he would leave, all while players and recruits are only left to look and be carried off elsewhere.

Rather than blow a full week fishing for future defectors, Bobo should have immediately named Kevin Sumlin or/and Brock Spack to come home to stay. Boilermaker Nation deserves one of its own.

The Big Ten’s founder should never have been reduced to being a stepping stone for outsiders who have no ties whatsoever, not beyond gazing up at the same moon that Purdue graduates first and last walked upon. To hell with them and anyone who puts Purdue in this position.
Purdue football sunk to the abyss of incompetence and losing due to the imbecilic decision-making, "thriftiness," and total lack of vision of a Purdue graduate and former Boilermaker student-athlete.

Only six years ago the concept of being a stepping stone to anything other than coaching oblivion -- the collegiate version of the fate for dismissed coaches of the Detroit Lions -- would have been ludicrous.

Bobinski is no fool. He has known that Brohm's departure was a distinct possibility, if not an inevitability. He hired Brohm, has taken proper care of Painter and his staff, moved Versyp along, and has kept Shondell. I trust him to make a thorough search and find a guy who fits the bill. And if he doesn't, he should rightfully be held accountable.
 
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At least he had an original take and expressed it. My definition of the worst post of the year is for those people who don’t have the balls to express their own thoughts but love to shoot down the posts of others!

It’s obvious you don’t like or share his viewpoint. So rather than calling him an idiot, how about offering some of your own opinions?
I missed the idiot part. Can you point it out - or is that just an involuntary reflex on your part?
 
I suspect the Nebraska hiring process took longer than a week. And it looks like a good hire
 
More than four years to prepare for this inevitability, yet we wait for over a week to replace the coach who all along made it clear where and when he would leave, all while players and recruits are only left to look and be carried off elsewhere.

Rather than blow a full week fishing for future defectors, Bobo should have immediately named Kevin Sumlin or/and Brock Spack to come home to stay. Boilermaker Nation deserves one of its own.

The Big Ten’s founder should never have been reduced to being a stepping stone for outsiders who have no ties whatsoever, not beyond gazing up at the same moon that Purdue graduates first and last walked upon. To hell with them and anyone who puts Purdue in this position.
Honestly this is kind of a ridiculous take. Purdue is not the type of program that can just call up any one of their top 3 choices on a moment's notice and land the big fish.

The college coaching landscape shifts wildly just year-to-year, so who knows what plan Bobo had/has in place and how much of it is still viable.

It's stressful and impactful to the program the longer the search goes on, but the fallout of a bad hire can linger for YEARS. I'd rather take the time to do it right, within reason, rather than make a snap decision just to shut people up
 
Kevin Sumlin who has crashed and burned during his last two college coaching jobs?

Brock Spack has been a perfectly serviceable FCS coach, but that ship sailed a LONG time ago.

Obviously we're all in suspense, but the right hire will correct most of our recruiting "losses." I don't even think we can see anything as a "loss" until they sign.

Kevin Sumlin owns better records at Texas A&M (51-26, .662) and Arizona (9-20, .310) than both of his replacements at the same schools -- Jimbo Fisher (39-21, .650) and Jedd Fisch (6-18, .250), respectively. So who’s “burned?”

Sumlin’s resume is far superior to anyone mentioned to date. And he’s one of us.
 
Purdue football sunk to the abyss of incompetence and losing due to the imbecilic decision-making, "thriftiness," and total lack of vision of a Purdue graduate and former Boilermaker student-athlete.

Only six years ago the concept of being a stepping stone to anything other than coaching oblivion -- the collegiate version of the fate for dismissed coaches of the Detroit Lions -- would have been ludicrous.

Bobinski is no fool. He has known that Brohm's departure was a distinct possibility, if not an inevitability. He hired Brohm, has taken proper care of Painter and his staff, moved Versyp along, and has kept Shondell. I trust him to make a thorough search and find a guy who fits the bill. And if he doesn't, he should rightfully be held accountable.

Five games into the 2021 season, in his fifth year at Purdue, Jeff Brohm was 22-27 -- the exact record held by Danny Hope when he was fired by popular demand.

The same fan demands led to a smoother-talking hot-item named Darrell Hazell. Up-and-coming came and went south. Ever since, the huddled masses have blamed the AD for meeting their loudly stated wishes.

Such head-up-their-hind-sights cannot erase the quarter-century in which Purdue alumnus Morgan Burke hired, retained and sustained the winningest coaches in Purdue’s history for all five major sports while rebuilding all of Purdue’s facilities for every varsity sport and gaining two Pete Dye courses for the community’s use.

Bobo would do well to be half as good.
 
Five games into the 2021 season, in his fifth year at Purdue, Jeff Brohm was 22-27 -- the exact record held by Danny Hope when he was fired by popular demand.

The same fan demands led to a smoother-talking hot-item named Darrell Hazell. Up-and-coming came and went south. Ever since, the huddled masses have blamed the AD for meeting their loudly stated wishes.

Such head-up-their-hind-sights cannot erase the quarter-century in which Purdue alumnus Morgan Burke hired, retained and sustained the winningest coaches in Purdue’s history for all five major sports while rebuilding all of Purdue’s facilities for every varsity sport and gaining two Pete Dye courses for the community’s use.

Bobo would do well to be half as good.
This argument is so old. Hope took over Purdue in as good as shape as the program has ever been when turned over to someone. Brohm took over when it was at its worst. The records are not equal.

We should all want the AD to get this right. Losing a few recruits is a tiny price to pay to get our head coach right.
 
This argument is so old. Hope took over Purdue in as good as shape as the program has ever been when turned over to someone. Brohm took over when it was at its worst. The records are not equal.

We should all want the AD to get this right. Losing a few recruits is a tiny price to pay to get our head coach right.
Embarrassed for bobinski
 
Five games into the 2021 season, in his fifth year at Purdue, Jeff Brohm was 22-27 -- the exact record held by Danny Hope when he was fired by popular demand.

The same fan demands led to a smoother-talking hot-item named Darrell Hazell. Up-and-coming came and went south. Ever since, the huddled masses have blamed the AD for meeting their loudly stated wishes.

Such head-up-their-hind-sights cannot erase the quarter-century in which Purdue alumnus Morgan Burke hired, retained and sustained the winningest coaches in Purdue’s history for all five major sports while rebuilding all of Purdue’s facilities for every varsity sport and gaining two Pete Dye courses for the community’s use.

Bobo would do well to be half as good.
Are you saying a bunch of fans held a gun to Burke's head and made him hire perhaps the worst coach to ever lead a major college team onto the field?

Comparing Hope and Brohm is not comparing like with like, not even close. Brohm inherited a complete wreck and tumbleweeds were rolling through Ross-Ade with Hazell at the helm.

While Burke's approach may have built a couple of golf courses and upgraded facilities, it frustrated Tiller and Keady no end, nearly cost us Painter, and gave us Hazell.

Making a quick hire just to have someone in place is not worth the risk.
 
This argument is so old. Hope took over Purdue in as good as shape as the program has ever been when turned over to someone. Brohm took over when it was at its worst. The records are not equal.

We should all want the AD to get this right. Losing a few recruits is a tiny price to pay to get our head coach right.

Are you saying a bunch of fans held a gun to Burke's head and made him hire perhaps the worst coach to ever lead a major college team onto the field?

Comparing Hope and Brohm is not comparing like with like, not even close. Brohm inherited a complete wreck and tumbleweeds were rolling through Ross-Ade with Hazell at the helm.

While Burke's approach may have built a couple of golf courses and upgraded facilities, it frustrated Tiller and Keady no end, nearly cost us Painter, and gave us Hazell.

Making a quick hire just to have someone in place is not worth the risk.

Hope inherited a 4-8 team that lost its record-setting quarterback, but he still finished 5-7. In year two, he beat No. 7 Ohio State and became only the second Purdue coach ever to win at Michigan. In year three, he lost all of his skill players three deep to season-ending injuries and lost his last six games. In year four, he took Purdue to a bowl and got fired. He beat OSU twice and was within 30 seconds of a third upset. Brohm took over a 3-9 team, finished 7-6 with a bowl, then followed that with three straight losing seasons. In short, he went from winning once to perennial losing until given the fifth and sixth years that Hope never had. Same school. Same conference. Same records after 49 games -- 22-27. Reality.

Hazell, whose arrival was indeed by public mandate, from rabid fans who even bitched about how Hope spoke, proved that even an 11-3 MAC Coach of the Year is not necessarily one able to build a Big Ten program.

Lest we forget.

Kevin Sumlin or Brock Spack would’ve been ready to roll last week.
 
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Hope inherited a 4-8 team that lost its record-setting quarterback, but he still finished 5-7. In year two, he beat No. 7 Ohio State and became only the second Purdue coach ever to win at Michigan. In year three, he lost all of his skill players three deep to season-ending injuries and lost his last six games. In year four, he took Purdue to a bowl and got fired. He beat OSU twice and was within 30 seconds of a third upset. Brohm took over a 3-9 team, finished 7-6 with a bowl, then followed that with three straight losing seasons. In short, he went from winning once to perennial losing until given the fifth and sixth years that Hope never had. Same school. Same conference. Same records after 49 games -- 22-27. Reality.

Hazell, whose arrival was indeed by public mandate, from rabid fans who even bitched about how Hope spoke, proved that even an 11-3 MAC Coach of the Year is not necessarily one able to build a Big Ten program.

Lest we forget.

Kevin Sumlin or Brock Spack would’ve been ready to roll last week.
Brohm: 26-25 B1G record
Hope: 13-19 B1G record

Brohm > Hope
(and I liked Danny and think he could have done better with a different AD who wasn’t playing “Moneyball”)
 
And we’re not even at a week yet.
Knowing the coaching climate at UofL, Knowing how this year's schedule was and having AOC.
Knowing Purdue Football history, BoBo had 12 months to know this was coming.
Explain the 1M buy out. I bet Brohm to UofL came up during that conversation or is BoBo that stupid....?
 
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Knowing the coaching climate at UofL, Knowing how this year's schedule was and having AOC.
Knowing Purdue Football history, BoBo had 12 months to know this was coming.
Explain the 1M buy out. I bet Brohm to UofL came up during that conversation or is BoBo that stupid....?
Brohm insisted on the $1 million buyout, everyone knew he wanted the UL job at some point.
 
Brohm: 26-25 B1G record
Hope: 13-19 B1G record

Brohm > Hope
(and I liked Danny and think he could have done better with a different AD who wasn’t playing “Moneyball”)

Brohm was 14-19 in the Big Ten before gaining the fifth and sixth years that Hope never had. That makes the score Western Kentucky 14, Eastern Kentucky 13.

And, again, Morgan Burke was the one responsible for hiring, retaining and sustaining the winningest coaches in our history for football, men’s and women’s basketball, volleyball and baseball. Can’t beat being the best we’ve ever had.
 
Brohm insisted on the $1 million buyout, everyone knew he wanted the UL job at some point.
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Brohm: 26-25 B1G record
Hope: 13-19 B1G record

Brohm > Hope
(and I liked Danny and think he could have done better with a different AD who wasn’t playing “Moneyball”)
And had no support from Morg or the Pres!!! If they had supported Purdue Football then, we could have avoided the bad hire in Haze .......
 
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More than four years to prepare for this inevitability, yet we wait for over a week to replace the coach who all along made it clear where and when he would leave, all while players and recruits are only left to look and be carried off elsewhere.

Rather than blow a full week fishing for future defectors, Bobo should have immediately named Kevin Sumlin or/and Brock Spack to come home to stay. Boilermaker Nation deserves one of its own.

The Big Ten’s founder should never have been reduced to being a stepping stone for outsiders who have no ties whatsoever, not beyond gazing up at the same moon that Purdue graduates first and last walked upon. To hell with them and anyone who puts Purdue in this position.
And some are saying that BoBo could have not seen this coming 12 months ago....... Keep in mind that BoBo is driving a 100M plus program.....
 
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Brohm was 14-19 in the Big Ten before gaining the fifth and sixth years that Hope never had. That makes the score Western Kentucky 14, Eastern Kentucky 13.

And, again, Morgan Burke was the one responsible for hiring, retaining and sustaining the winningest coaches in our history for football, men’s and women’s basketball, volleyball and baseball. Can’t beat being the best we’ve ever had.
Brohm: 26-25 B1G record
Hope: 13-19 B1G record

And Hope inherited a MUCH better roster from Tiller than Brohm inherited from Burke’s last failed hire.

Are you implying Hope was primed for a big turnaround in 2013 and 2014 to get over .500 in conference ?
 
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And had no support from Morg or the Pres!!! If they had supported Purdue Football then, we could have avoided the bad hire in Haze .......
NewPeil, we all know why Jeff asked for it, which further supports my case that BoBo should have made this coaching turn a round seamless......
I`m not a BoBo hater, I`m just surprised that this has gone the way that it has.
 
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