Gassnola testified that Self had direct conversations with Adidas officials about the recruits and knew exactly what was happening. Supposedly, there are texts that prove all of this.
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Color me shocked. No one is going to take this whole situation seriously until the NCAA gets some sack and hammers somebody. And it cannot be just somebody - it needs to be somebody that makes the NCAA money.
Someone will be going to jail in this for sure. Way too much evidence not to see it happen.The NCAA is not tring these crooks. The Feds are. The NCAA is hoping that the crooks get a pass or the Feds lock them up so that it is out of their hands.
The FBI is already taking this seriously. They couldn’t care less what the NCAA thinks.Color me shocked. No one is going to take this whole situation seriously until the NCAA gets some sack and hammers somebody. And it cannot be just somebody - it needs to be somebody that makes the NCAA money.
The NCAA is thinking how can we not loose moneyThe FBI is already taking this seriously. They couldn’t care less what the NCAA thinks.
The Kansas AD is supposedly pissed and is considering suspending Self for the Bemidji State game.Gassnola testified that Self had direct conversations with Adidas officials about the recruits and knew exactly what was happening. Supposedly, there are texts that prove all of this.
Gassnola testified that Self had direct conversations with Adidas officials about the recruits and knew exactly what was happening. Supposedly, there are texts that prove all of this.
That would be too tough. Maybe just the first half of the game.The Kansas AD is supposedly pissed and is considering suspending Self for the Bemidji State game.
Seems harsh. How about 1st media timeout?That would be too tough. Maybe just the first half of the game.
Somebody needs to explain to me how Kansas missing the NCAA for 3 years causes the tournament to have fewer viewers, or lose money. The TV contract $$$ is the same regardless of which schools play.The NCAA is thinking how can we not loose money
This is why I'm so bitter about this whole thing. They knocked us out of the '12 and '17 tournaments.
Somebody needs to explain to me how Kansas missing the NCAA for 3 years causes the tournament to have fewer viewers, or lose money. The TV contract $$$ is the same regardless of which schools play.
Take Duke, UNC, and Kansas out of the mix and there are still 68 schools and their alumni who will be riveted to the games. Many will see those schools absence as being a better chance for their schools to advance. I don't see this as a money issue at all.
In fact, if I were an admin at one of the other schools, like Purdue, I would be extremely tough on these cheaters. The NCAA governing body is made up of the member schools, most of whom don't cheat. I can see retribution coming.
The NCAA isn't going to do anything until the FBI and the feds press charges (or don't). They might target specific players and negate their eligibility, but they aren't going to give punishments to schools until the legal stuff is done.Color me shocked. No one is going to take this whole situation seriously until the NCAA gets some sack and hammers somebody. And it cannot be just somebody - it needs to be somebody that makes the NCAA money.
We’ve already established that. Now, we’re just haggling over price.Simply put, BAB is telling us the NCAA is a whore.
Seems harsh. How about 1st media timeout?
First, thanks for replying with a pretty good perspective on this issue. No sarcasm!Advertising. You can be sure CBS and Turner Sports will be none to thrilled if the NCAA's biggest cash cows are exempt from the tournament. I believe Turner Sports pays the NCAA over a billion, yes a billion dollars a year for the media rights. Now while they are locked into a multi-year deal, it will still hurt Turner Sports ability to market games and if Turner Sports takes a huge tumble after paying over a billion dollar a years you better be sure the NCAA won't get the luxury to name their price when negotiating the next deal. Not saying it's right but there's next to a ZERO percent chance the NCAA is going to ban their cash cows from playing in the tournament for any kind of extended period of time. It's bad business.
And that money made from Turner Sports media deal gets redistributed back to the NCAA and the member schools (which Purdue is apart of) that fund scholarships and other programs for thousands of student athletes across the board. Trust me, the NCAA will suffer if teams like Duke, Kansas, and North Carolina miss the tournament for an extended period of time. If anything happens, it'll come back to the coach, not on the program. Bill Self will be given a show-cause penalty and not be allowed to coach before a program like Kansas is banned from the postseason for multiple seasons.
First, thanks for replying with a pretty good perspective on this issue. No sarcasm!
I still troubled by the missing schools mean missing dollars issue. If the public/basketball fans understand that these schools cheated and are therefore not going to play in the tournament, why would advertising fall? Are not the fans excited to see good basketball regardless of who plays it? Loyola, Gonzaga and all the other Cinderella teams generate a terrific buzz.
Next year there may be more Cinderellas than ever. Most advertisers can made a silk purse out of a sow's ear without breaking a sweat. I still think (my opinion) that nobody but the Kansas fans will miss Kansas. Maybe most fans are tired of seeing the same 4-5 cheaters in the FF, especially if they are not alums of the schools. Time for some fresh blood.
The Blue Bloods of cbball are no different than the Yankees, the Cowboys, the Lakers of the world. They are always the highest rated and most viewed games but their respective fan bases all travel well. You ever been in the same city where Kansas, UK, UNC, or Duke are playing in the tournament? It’s almost like you’re in Lexington or Chapel Hill or Lawrence. Look at the ratings of last years national title game and then compare it to the 3 prior when Duke and North Carolina x2 played in them. It’s a night and day difference. It’s that blue blood factor. Loyola and Gonzaga certainly generate a buzz and make for a feel good story, but they don’t produce ratings or sell tickets which is what the NCAA and host cities want.
Say you owned a a restaurant in downtown Indy and in a year where Indy hosted a F4, what teams/fanbases would you prefer to be in town? Kansas and Kentucky or Gonzaga and Loyola. Now as a basketball fan you may prefer the latter, but as a business man you’re dying for the former. Remember, the NCAA is a business, even though they tell you it’s for the kids. They will always be looking out for their best interest and they know not to bite the hand that feeds them. Just my .02 cents.
People loven Cinderellas. I am with mathboy. Ban the cheaters and Cinderella probability increases. TV ratings wbould be fine.
But can you really have David versus Goliath when you kill all the Goliaths?First of all, the Final Four is a sellout long before anyone knows the teams in it. So whether or not a "blue-blood" is in it has nothing to do with those ticket sales. Many fans of FF teams would like to attend but cannot get tickets from their school's allotment.
The issue of empty seats is really in the first weekend. That is why they went yo the pod system to favor high ranked teams, but not #1s, by genography. Many fans did not want to travel cross-country for a game against a team likely to be a blowout.
People loven Cinderellas. I am with mathboy. Ban the cheaters and Cinderella probability increases. TV ratings wbould be fine.
First of all, the Final Four is a sellout long before anyone knows the teams in it. So whether or not a "blue-blood" is in it has nothing to do with those ticket sales. Many fans of FF teams would like to attend but cannot get tickets from their school's allotment.
The issue of empty seats is really in the first weekend. That is why they went yo the pod system to favor high ranked teams, but not #1s, by genography. Many fans did not want to travel cross-country for a game against a team likely to be a blowout.
People loven Cinderellas. I am with mathboy. Ban the cheaters and Cinderella probability increases. TV ratings wbould be fine.
Except they aren't. Look at the F4 ratings last year compared to years where there are teams with a blue-blood(s) in them. Last years Final ratings were some of the worst of all time. Turner Sports doesn't care about the attendance of the people at the actual game. They care about ratings and viewers and how they can market games. Yes Loyola was a feel good story, but it doesn't draw near the viewers as it would if someone like Duke or Kansas were playing.
The Brewers are the feel good story of MLB this year. But you're crazy if you don't think the MLB and all the media corporations who pay for TV ratings aren't praying it's a Dodger/Red Sox World Series. Those two are some of the biggest media markets in baseball.
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/ncaa-final-four-ratings-history-most-watched-games-cbs-tbs-nbc/
Just look at the ratings on average when blue-bloods are in the F4 and/or national championship and compare them to when they aren't. Villanova is everything that is right with college basketball, yet ratings for whenever Villanova plays are some of the lowest in F4 history. And it's because it's a small school without a huge enrollment base. Nobody really cares about Villanova outside the Philly area.
So what you are saying is the general public tolerates cheaters for the love of entertainment.And to further my point, the E8 game between Duke and Kansas matched the rating of the national championship (9.2) and had almost identical viewers (15.9m to 15.4). Duke-Kansas was the highest rated E8 game since 2005. While Cinderella's are nice and refreshing story lines, they don't necessarily resonate with the casual basketball fan (which is Turner Sports goal) and ratings and viewership prove that.
http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2018/03/elite-eight-ratings-kansas-duke-viewership/
So what you are saying is the general public tolerates cheaters for the love of entertainment.
So did the blue bloods become blue bloods by cheating?
Should everyone thus cheat?
The NCAA has to take a hit here regardless. The cheaters should be eliminated from any NCAA distribution for ten years.
If the cheaters can afford to pay a player $500,000 they don't need the NCAA money. Give their share to UNC Ashville.
The cheating has to stop or it will get even further out of control.
agree with this & earlier posts.In a way yes. NCAA athletics is a business first and foremost regardless and will continue to be treated as such. People want to watch Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina, etc....they don't want to watch Loyola, Weber State, and IPFW. I'm simply saying don't hold your breath waiting for the NCAA to do something. If anything, you will see the NCAA change their rules that what today may constitute cheating no longer be. I think we're very close to seeing the NCAA allow players to be represented by agents.
agree with this & earlier posts.
hence the long running jokes that the ncaa punishes the small schools more than the big time programs. if they eliminate the top teams/blue bloods , they will suffer short term $ loss, but more importantly long term. they could lose generations of following/support/$, which would have a large long lasting impact.
the other issue: the same entity/ncaa creates the rules and enforces the rules. and for bball, they collect and distribute $ too. fans, media, even coaches have voiced concern over cheating for years-decades. until teams stop playing other teams (e.g. purdue refusing to play arizona), or fans stop showing up/tuning in (e.g. an empty Mackey arena vs louisville), the ncaa will not be incentivized to change course. and until a change, those protests just immediately hurt the teams their intended to help.
I think with the eventual final conference realignments, the power conferences could brush the ncaa aside completely - regulate themselves and keep all the money, like they already do with big $ football.
So what you are saying is the general public tolerates cheaters for the love of entertainment.
So did the blue bloods become blue bloods by cheating?
Should everyone thus cheat?
The NCAA has to take a hit here regardless. The cheaters should be eliminated from any NCAA distribution for ten years.
If the cheaters can afford to pay a player $500,000 they don't need the NCAA money. Give their share to UNC Ashville.
The cheating has to stop or it will get even further out of control.