No.Loving v Virginia isn’t a law that directly impacts women, is it? That was Beth’s post, was it not?
No.Loving v Virginia isn’t a law that directly impacts women, is it? That was Beth’s post, was it not?
That number is incorrect. It may happen - or not- but that is not the number at this moment. I think the correct number is 1326 states have already changed things I think.
Nothing better than a man telling a woman how she should feel about a ruling that directly impacts women and not men.
Your post that Bruce1 replied was….Honestly, what are you on about? To my knowledge no one implied that Loving v Virginia did not affect both women and men. Roe v Wade affects women. Justice Thomas is married to a white woman and would be directly affected by the overturning of that ruling hence he did not mention it in his decision. mdthornb was posting about Roe v Wade.
In this case I’m talking about somebody who can give birth.
Nothing better than a man telling a woman how she should feel about a ruling that directly impacts women and not men.
How many children are born a year in Missouri due to rape or incest? And who on Twitter did you get that from?Today, in Missouri, you cannot get an abortion if you were raped or are pregnant as a result of incest.
Hallelujah. Praise God. Whatever.
Gotta be in the thousands or he wouldn’t have mentioned it.How many children are born a year in Missouri due to rape or incest? And who on Twitter did you get that from?
Or he doesn’t know and just ran with a tweet out there.Gotta be in the thousands or he wouldn’t have mentioned it.![]()
You live in a world of “if”s often. I thought my question was pretty straightforward but maybe I have to dumb things down specifically for you.If it was your daughter would you GAF how many happened annually?
What number does it have to be to make it worth changing the law? Who gets to play God?
Answer your own gd question pinhead. The number is irrelevant. Right and wrong aren't determined by numbers.You live in a world of “if”s often. I thought my question was pretty straightforward but maybe I have to dumb things down specifically for you.
So you don’t have the answer. That’s all you had to say but you had to throw an “if” hypothetical out there and then ask yourself two more questions for seemingly no reason.Answer your own gd question pinhead. The number is irrelevant. Right and wrong aren't determined by numbers.
It is relevant because we don’t know if it’s zero, one, 100, 1,000, 10,000 or 100,000. The number could justify your reasoning for bringing it up other than you seeing it on social media and posting it here in another effort to complain about what SCOTUS did.Answer your own gd question pinhead. The number is irrelevant. Right and wrong aren't determined by numbers.
Huh? Men are affected too Bucko. Why doesnt anyone talk about men and women taking responsibility to avoid getting pregnant?Nothing better than a man telling a woman how she should feel about a ruling that directly impacts women and not men.
Ever heard of contraception? Adoption?It'll still be legal in half the states. Several large companies have said they'll pay for interstate travel for employees to get an abortion. California already passed a law securing the rights of any out of staters that come to California for one. This makes it less accessible but likely won't stop anyone from getting one. I feel for the girls/woman who will decide their only option is to do it themselves. I also feel for the children born into into a life where they are unwanted.
I find it odd that the left thinks killing babies is considered "right".Answer your own gd question pinhead. The number is irrelevant. Right and wrong aren't determined by numbers.
Me tooI find it odd that the left thinks killing babies is considered "right".
Forcing women who have been raped or impregnated by their father to carry to term is the right thing to do?I find it odd that the left thinks killing babies is considered "right".
How many abortions across the country are done because of rape or incest? You keep talking about it and none of us know if this is even a real and dominating force behind justifying abortion being okay.Forcing women who have been raped or impregnated by their father to carry to term is the right thing to do?
So in your mind, because of that very small number of instances, we should allow people to use abortion as birth control (as in the vast majority of situations)? Or how about we be sensible and make a law that requires proof of a very clear hardship before we allow the murder of babies?Forcing women who have been raped or impregnated by their father to carry to term is the right thing to do?
Forcing women who have been raped or impregnated by their father to carry to term is the right thing to do?
He has no idea if it’s a small number of instances. He just keeps saying it.So in your mind, because of that very small number of instances, we should allow people to use abortion as birth control (as in the vast majority of situations)? Or how about we be sensible and make a law that requires proof of a very clear hardship before we allow the murder of babies?
He saw it on social media and is running with it.Serious people don't resort do rape and incest.
I'm willing to concede that rape does happen and a woman should not have to have a child created from rape. But, he should be able to concede that abortion in any other instance is morally wrong.He has no idea if it’s a small number of instances. He just keeps saying it.
If it was your daughter would you GAF how many happened annually?
What number does it have to be to make it worth changing the law? Who gets to play God?
Why don't you put your words in somebody else's mouth? I said nothing of the kind. I'm talking about an exception to the law. How are you going to know what's in my mind when you can't even read what I post without blowing it up into something I didn't say?So in your mind, because of that very small number of instances, we should allow people to use abortion as birth control (as in the vast majority of situations)? Or how about we be sensible and make a law that requires proof of a very clear hardship before we allow the murder of babies?
Can't remember which Cabinet member couldn't answer that question last week. Was it Grandholm? Is was hilarious. Those that wanna say this an attack on women, what do they say about letting men swim and competing against women That is a wat against women.Interesting that no one can answer the question.
What is a woman?
Can you not read? I suggested a hardship waiver in the very post you replied to. Do you agree that abortion for any other reason should be illegal?Why don't you put your words in somebody else's mouth? I said nothing of the kind. I'm talking about an exception to the law. How are you going to know what's in my mind when you can't even read what I post without blowing it up into something I didn't say?
I don't give a damn how small the numbers are. These are likely to be young women who assaulted.......and you want to take away any right THEY should have to refuse to bear the child of their attacker.
Obviously a true point , just look at our last Presidential election.Answer your own gd question pinhead. The number is irrelevant. Right and wrong aren't determined by numbers.
Wonder if that fetus feels any pain when being aborted? I bet it does.Actually, I live in a state where the overturning of Roe v Wade does not matter so I am not sure what you mean by the edge.
So your findings have uncovered that the number is small? Where’d you see the numbers for Missouri as well as the country? Back up your assertion with data if you can. You remind me of my 17 year old cousin on TikTok who just runs with whatever they see on social media.Why don't you put your words in somebody else's mouth? I said nothing of the kind. I'm talking about an exception to the law. How are you going to know what's in my mind when you can't even read what I post without blowing it up into something I didn't say?
I don't give a damn how small the numbers are. These are likely to be young women who assaulted.......and you want to take away any right THEY should have to refuse to bear the child of their attacker.
So your findings have uncovered that the number is small? Where’d you see the numbers for Missouri as well as the country? Back up your assertion with data if you can. You remind me of my 17 year old cousin on TikTok who just runs with whatever they see on social media.
If you are asking my opinion, because any baby after conception is a baby. I simply don't support abortion as a form of birth control. I can't see how it's not murder. A woman already does have a right to choose. There are plenty of birth control options out there. And of course, there is also the choice of simply not having sex.The "it's only a small number of women who got pregnant because of rape so we shouldn't allow this small group to affect the overall anti-abortion argument" is not completely without merit, but we must also consider its twin brother, that "it's only a small number of late-term abortion (93% of the abortions were performed in the first trimester, 1% in third) so we shouldn't allow this small group to affect the overall abortion argument."
Both sides want to use the extreme cases to justify their stance, but won't it be simpler to just use the extreme as exception rather than the norm to justify? So pregnancy due to rape is exempted from abortion restriction, and abortion at late term needs ultra high scrutiny? But for the vast majority of cases, like the 93% abortion done in the first trimester (within 13 weeks), why the need to ban them and taking away the right of the women to decide on her own body and the risk she must endure? At 13 weeks, a baby is less than 3-inches in size, and weighs about 25g (toothbrush with toothpaste). Why not focus on these cases?
You should tell that to the liberals who keep pushing for late term abortion up to 9 monthsThe "it's only a small number of women who got pregnant because of rape so we shouldn't allow this small group to affect the overall anti-abortion argument" is not completely without merit, but we must also consider its twin brother, that "it's only a small number of late-term abortion (93% of the abortions were performed in the first trimester, 1% in third) so we shouldn't allow this small group to affect the overall abortion argument."
Both sides want to use the extreme cases to justify their stance, but won't it be simpler to just use the extreme as exception rather than the norm to justify? So pregnancy due to rape is exempted from abortion restriction, and abortion at late term needs ultra high scrutiny? But for the vast majority of cases, like the 93% abortion done in the first trimester (within 13 weeks), why the need to ban them and taking away the right of the women to decide on her own body and the risk she must endure? At 13 weeks, a baby is less than 3-inches in size, and weighs about 25g (toothbrush with toothpaste). Why not focus on these cases?
@BuilderBob6 is this what you wanted to say but couldn’t articulate it like this poster did? Again, you could have just said you didn’t have the answer to my original question instead of calling me a pinhead. The pinhead seems to be you.The "it's only a small number of women who got pregnant because of rape so we shouldn't allow this small group to affect the overall anti-abortion argument" is not completely without merit, but we must also consider its twin brother, that "it's only a small number of late-term abortion (93% of the abortions were performed in the first trimester, 1% in third) so we shouldn't allow this small group to affect the overall abortion argument."
Both sides want to use the extreme cases to justify their stance, but won't it be simpler to just use the extreme as exception rather than the norm to justify? So pregnancy due to rape is exempted from abortion restriction, and abortion at late term needs ultra high scrutiny? But for the vast majority of cases, like the 93% abortion done in the first trimester (within 13 weeks), why the need to ban them and taking away the right of the women to decide on her own body and the risk she must endure? At 13 weeks, a baby is less than 3-inches in size, and weighs about 25g (toothbrush with toothpaste). Why not focus on these cases?
Huh? Men are affected too Bucko. Why doesnt anyone talk about men and women taking responsibility to avoid getting pregnant?
Ever heard of contraception? Adoption?
Nothing better than a man telling a woman how she should feel about a ruling that directly impacts women and not men.
Do you have children?
If you don’t think the loss of a baby, whether intentional or not, regardless the stage of the pregnancy, doesn’t also impact the man, then my guess is your answer to my question will be a “no”