3 pt shooting down the stretch...

[bonefish1]

haven't run the numbers but seems like our 3 pt shooting has collectively gone south the last 4-5 games.
Hopefully this is just an anomaly, but we can't afford any of those 3-24 nights in the tourney or we'll see another early exit.
And in case you're wondering, I STILL disagree with Painter messing with the lineup and starting Cline.

 

[mathboy]

The last several teams we have played were well coached. One of the key things to do if you play Purdue is to guard the 3-pt line. Coaches like Collins and Izzo not going to allow our sharp shooters free access, so it is not a surprise our shooting is down lately.

 

[BoiledSteel]

And in case you're wondering, I STILL disagree with Painter messing with the lineup and starting Cline.

And I am sure he doesn't really care that you do. Starting Cline is the correct answer because CE is playing entirely too out of control at the moment. Cline while doesn't have the speed or drive capabilities of CE, he isn't a freshmen that is currently trying to do too much.

 

[lbodel]

And I am sure he doesn't really care that you do. Starting Cline is the correct answer because CE is playing entirely too out of control at the moment. Cline while doesn't have the speed or drive capabilities of CE, he isn't a freshmen that is currently trying to do too much.

I'm not sure why people get so hung up on starting line ups.

Carsen entered the game less than 4 minutes into the game and then played until 10 minutes left - after taking a bad shot. Then entered again with 7 minutes left and played the rest of the half.

He played 13 minutes in the first half (more than Cline). He was 0-5, had 0 assists and 1 turnover.

 

[lbodel]

haven't run the numbers but seems like our 3 pt shooting has collectively gone south the last 4-5 games.
Hopefully this is just an anomaly, but we can't afford any of those 3-24 nights in the tourney or we'll see another early exit.
And in case you're wondering, I STILL disagree with Painter messing with the lineup and starting Cline.

Over the last four games, Purdue is shooting 35-89 from 3 (40%). Not horrible, but not the clip we were used to.

That being said, quantity has something to do with it. Against Michigan and Penn State, we attempted 26 threes, which is a hefty number. It's also no coincidence that at least against Penn State, we were pretty limited inside. Both of those games, we were 11-26 (42%) and 12-26 (46%). Not bad percentages - but obviously you get a higher percentage closer to the basket - and we have the players to get inside shots.

Against IU and NW, we had under 20 attempts both games. NW was bad at 4-19, but IU was 8-18 (44%). So really, the only bad game statistically was the NW game. And shooting 42% is not bad - but on 26 attempts, it doesn't feel like it's great.

Also, something to point out....

Over the past four games, we are shooting a combined 72-82 from the free throw line. That's 88% AS A TEAM! That's incredible.

One factor that's not talked about a lot with our team that will be a key in March is getting to the line. It's not as easy to get to the free throw line in March, so Purdue will have to earn it. But in 3 of these 4 games, we had 19 or more free throw attempts. That's a number we need to see in March if we want to be successful, especially when you don't have a great night shooting.

 

[mryankee2397]

because getting off to a good start has been the key for our winning games. slow starts have been our nemesis in our losses. i just think ce adds more to our lineup than cline even if ce isnt hitting his shots.

I'm not sure why people get so hung up on starting line ups.

Carsen entered the game less than 4 minutes into the game and then played until 10 minutes left - after taking a bad shot. Then entered again with 7 minutes left and played the rest of the half.

He played 13 minutes in the first half (more than Cline). He was 0-5, had 0 assists and 1 turnover.

 

[lbodel]

because getting off to a good start has been the key for our winning games. slow starts have been our nemesis in our losses. i just think ce adds more to our lineup than cline even if ce isnt hitting his shots.

Just as an FYI:

vs. Northwestern, Carsen first subbed in when we were winning by 1. When he subbed out, we were losing by 5.

vs. IU, Carsen first subbed in when we were winning by 4. When he subbed out, we were losing by 3.

vs. Michigan, Carsen first subbed in when we were losing by 1. When he subbed out, we were losing by 13.

I have absolutely nothing against Carsen. And his subbing in solely does not account for losing leads or growing deficits - there's all sorts of factors at play. But there's also nothing in the last 3 games that points to Purdue having bad starts because Carsen doesn't start, which you suggest. He'll get his minutes as long as he plays well. Whether he starts or comes in 4 minutes later doesn't matter. I appreciate the competitive nature of Carsen, but this is not the time to worry about individual minutes. Not saying he's doing that, but people on here are.

 

[Dakota Girl]

The last several teams we have played were well coached. One of the key things to do if you play Purdue is to guard the 3-pt line. Coaches like Collins and Izzo not going to allow our sharp shooters free access, so it is not a surprise our shooting is down lately.

True. It seems that the best way to defend Purdue is to stay in position to defend the three then bring various post doubles. Keep our bigs guessing as to when and where the double comes from and force them to make decisions. If they do it well and we hit our open threes you will lose. If not...

 

[BoilerFan#35]

Just as an FYI:

vs. Northwestern, Carsen first subbed in when we were winning by 1. When he subbed out, we were losing by 5.

vs. IU, Carsen first subbed in when we were winning by 4. When he subbed out, we were losing by 3.

vs. Michigan, Carsen first subbed in when we were losing by 1. When he subbed out, we were losing by 13.

I have absolutely nothing against Carsen. And his subbing in solely does not account for losing leads or growing deficits - there's all sorts of factors at play. But there's also nothing in the last 3 games that points to Purdue having bad starts because Carsen doesn't start, which you suggest. He'll get his minutes as long as he plays well. Whether he starts or comes in 4 minutes later doesn't matter. I appreciate the competitive nature of Carsen, but this is not the time to worry about individual minutes. Not saying he's doing that, but people on here are.

You may say it doesn't matter but it does to Carsen. Players are just more confident when starting. I liked Carsen starting due to the fact that Mathias, PJ, Vince, and Biggie could stroke it around him. When he is in with Spike and Haas the defense can focus on his drives because there aren't as many 3 shootere out there with him.

 

[B-Westy]

Over the last four games, Purdue is shooting 35-89 from 3 (40%). Not horrible, but not the clip we were used to.

Purdue is 6th in the nation for 3 point shooting at 40.1%. So yes, that is indeed what we're used to.

 

[tjreese]

haven't run the numbers but seems like our 3 pt shooting has collectively gone south the last 4-5 games.
Hopefully this is just an anomaly, but we can't afford any of those 3-24 nights in the tourney or we'll see another early exit.
And in case you're wondering, I STILL disagree with Painter messing with the lineup and starting Cline.

If Purdue has to shoot 24 3's I don't feel good about any game being well played

 

[tjreese]

You may say it doesn't matter but it does to Carsen. Players are just more confident when starting. I liked Carsen starting due to the fact that Mathias, PJ, Vince, and Biggie could stroke it around him. When he is in with Spike and Haas the defense can focus on his drives because there aren't as many 3 shootere out there with him.

True, but Carsen is instant offense or at least try for instant offense. Does he allow Purdue to be effective on the offensive end when he subs to not fall behind? I don't have any data on any of this. However, I would love for Cline to start and win the BTT in a VERY tight game where CArsen is an important piece of that win...to get his next game (NCAA) another round at starting. I think the ideal situation for coaches is to win...but with a struggle and then turn them loose when needed.

I'm happy no matter what happens, but this first game will no doubt be with Cline starting