Two seed talk
- By proudopete
- Boilermaker Men's Basketball
- 106 Replies
So a brief synopsis of the game boils down to: Purdue's Cox vs. Iowa's Dix. Whoever has the better D wins.Furst of all, this game will be the battle between Cox and Dix, since Freeman is out the emphasis will be getting the ball into TKR. If the 3 point shooting is still off it could be a game where we are trading our 2's for their 3's but even if they are hot from 3, I can't see that lasting the whole game. Our D has been good at forcing TO's but Iowa's O doesn't turnover the ball much, so something has to give in that respect. I'm sure Harding will " try" to upstage Braden, whoever is guarding Sandfort and Dix will have to stay on them and hopefully any help D will not let them 2 wide open, This game can play out similar to the game at Minny earlier this year
We have two more spots, so no scholarships have to be pulled.I agree Berg isnt the answer, but he is a big, he is depth somewhat, and I dont want to be the type of team that pulls scholarships. So unless Berg goes into the Portal himself, I dont think we have room.
Yeah I think when we are able to get turnovers we should try to get some runouts but I highly doubt we try to run with Iowa. Steady half court offense and pick their defense apart. I also agree we need to shoot better from 3.Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Tonight, it's the #7-ranked Purdue Boilermakers (17-5; 9-2) back on the road again visiting Carver-Hawkeye Arena in Iowa City to take on the Iowa Hawkeyes (13-8; 4-6). Tip is set for approximately 7:00 pm (Eastern time) with television coverage on Peacock. This will be the only regular season meeting between the teams.
Projected Starting Line-ups:
Purdue - Trey Kaufman-Renn, Caleb Furst, CJ Cox, Fletcher Loyer, and Braden Smith
Iowa - Riley Mulvey (replacing Owen Freeman), Payton Sandfort, Josh Dix, Brock Harding, and Drew Thelwell
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Iowa has dropped four of its last five games, including a 82-65 defeat at Ohio State last week. The Buckeyes led by as many as 25 points and never trailed by more than two, shooting 48 percent from the field. Iowa was held to 39 percent shooting, including 7-for-25 (28%) from three-point range. Sophomore forward Owen Freeman (16.7 PPG, 6.7 RPG and 1.8 BPG) has led the Hawkeyes this season, but unfortunately he was just ruled out for the remainder of the season with a finger injury, for which he had surgery. Iowa has a few others who will try to pick up the slack with Freeman's absence. Purdue will need to keep an eye on senior forward Payton Sandfort (16.0 PPG and 5.7 RPG), junior guard Josh Dix (13.3 PPG and 3.0 APG) and senior guard Drew Thelwell (10.7 PPG, 3.1 APG and 2.0 SPG), who are all more than capable of getting hot and providing extra scoring punch. Sandfort had 30 against Nebraska and followed that up with 23 in a win against Indiana. Dix had 31 against Nebraska and 19 at UCLA. And Thelwell had 25 points and 20 points, respectively, in the losses at Wisconsin and Ohio State. With Freeman out, they may go to a smaller line-up at times and really push the pace, which is already up-tempo most of the time.
Iowa is currently rated 65th overall in KenPom, 28th in offensive efficiency and 153rd in defensive efficiency. Adjusted tempo rating has them playing at a rather quick pace, 29th. The Hawkeyes average 85.7 points (5th nationally) and shoot 50.0 percent (3rd), including 38.6 percent from three (17th). Defensively, they surrender 78.5 points per game (332nd) and their opponents shoot 47.7 percent (348th) with a 32.6 three-point mark (150th).
Purdue is currently rated 8th overall in KenPom, 10th offensively and 30th defensively. Adjusted tempo rating has the Boilers at 290th.
Purdue will have to pick its spots this game with the pace. There will be opportunities in transition, and perhaps that may help with some of the long-range shooting woes, but it could also play into Iowa's game plan. They will absolutely need to execute well in the half court and continue to limit the turnovers. From Coach Matt Painter - "You can't turn the ball over, take bad shots and let them play in transition. When they get in transition, they are very dangerous. Anytime they have lulls, you'll see Fran really encourage them to get the ball moving, get up the floor and be more aggressive."
Even though Freeman is out, expect Purdue to go about its gameplan the same way. Also from Matt Painter - "They're at their best when they're aggressive shooting threes, driving the ball, making the right plays. They have so many different weapons, so many different guys that can shoot threes......You prepare the same way, because their style doesn't change. Obviously, he [Freeman] puts a burden on things because of the way he runs the floor, the way he plays out of ball screens — he can put the ball on the floor, he can do a lot of different things."
This is a quintessential trap game for Purdue. They are coming off two big home wins against Michigan and Indiana and have climbed within a half-game of conference leader, Michigan State. Iowa has hit a rough patch and just lost their most productive player who could put pressure on the opposing defense. However, the Hawkeyes can still score and can really get hot from outside, especially at home. Purdue has been on the short end of a few of those against Fran McCaffery's teams. Purdue has also been less than stellar, and that's putting it mildly, from long range recently, especially on the road. The Boilers' freshman have been coming along, but they still have been inconsistent on the road. Like facing a wounded animal, they have to be ready for the Hawkeye's best shot and an inspired team at home as an underdog. The Boilers need a superior mental mindset to tough another one out on the road.
This is also a game where Braden Smith and Fletcher Loyer will have to lead by example, and Purdue's defense will need to continue it's improved play. It's a particular challenge this evening because Iowa does not usually turn the ball over. The other challenge will be for Purdue to be patient at the right times and play the possession game with Iowa in the half court. They have the edge there, but they will definitely have to knock down some shots, and it would be a refreshing sight if Myles Colvin and Cam Heide could provide some of that relief.
Can the Boilers keep things rolling to stay near the top of the conference standings? Or, will the Hawkeyes get a much needed win over a contender to boost their post-season chances?
We shall see, coming up in a few hours or so.
Boiler up, my friends.
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For fukks sake!!! They didn't have a demand for black slaves. They had a demand for slaves. The Africans supplied them with what they wanted/needed.How about if the white Europeans didn't have a demand for black Africans the transatlantic slave trade would not exist. The black Africans that were sold to the Europeans were basically prisoners of war of the winning African tribe during war. So naturally they are either going to kill them or sell them to the Europeans for money, weapons, supplies what ever. Some of these tribal losers in battle were tortured to death.
The black Africans don't own any slave ships and never forced the Europeans to sail the ships to pick up the black Africans.
Super deep team - my 15 year old who is a die hard Purdue fan since birth watches all the Pistons games (well he did before Ivey got hurt but he’s in a walking boot so he will be back) and Grizzlies games. I don’t pay too much attention but Memphis plays a ton of guys so Edey doesn’t really have to play that many minutes.Memphis is really stacked. Bane and Morant have missed considerable time and yet they still keep winning.
Did that appointee advocate for slavery, or just an end to absurd DEI policies?Well here's a loaded "Riveting-style" question for you:
Forget about some Irish guy in Jamaica in the 1700's, what would be your reaction if a top Deputy appointee in the State Department said in 2024 that "Competent white men must be in charge if you want things to work. Unfortunately, our entire national ideology is predicated on coddling the feelings of women and minorities, and demoralizing competent white men."
And what do you think of someone that appointed him - with a long history of statements by this appointee that are congruent with the 2024 statement?
15 scholarship limit starting for 2025-2026 season, so we will have at least 2 open.I agree Berg isnt the answer, but he is a big, he is depth somewhat, and I dont want to be the type of team that pulls scholarships. So unless Berg goes into the Portal himself, I dont think we have room.
Confusing 'follow the science" with "I would believe the scientists" is not a lie, just a slight, meaningless difference.I said I would believe the scientists. I didn't say I follow the science. That's twice you've lied about what I said.
What is wrong with you..........that you thrive on this meaningless drivel.
Fran coached just down the road here at Siena before Iowa - sounds like his time is about up there. I think it will be close for a half.Push the ball and get Heide and Colvin some easy baskets at the rim when they are in the game - may help them get going
Not run with them necessarily just get those two some easy buckets for their confidence - I still believe we need one or both to get on track for us to have a deep run. Harris has alleviated that some lately but if either can find their 3 point shot that will go a long way.Maybe, but I don’t think we want to run with Iowa
Furst of all, this game will be the battle between Cox and Dix, since Freeman is out the emphasis will be getting the ball into TKR. If the 3 point shooting is still off it could be a game where we are trading our 2's for their 3's but even if they are hot from 3, I can't see that lasting the whole game. Our D has been good at forcing TO's but Iowa's O doesn't turnover the ball much, so something has to give in that respect. I'm sure Harding will " try" to upstage Braden, whoever is guarding Sandfort and Dix will have to stay on them and hopefully any help D will not let them 2 wide open, This game can play out similar to the game at Minny earlier this yearGreat tickets and prices available if you can make the trip over to Iowa City.
Berg isn't going to be doing anything next season. We need another big this season and he isn't doing anything, not sure why folks keep thinking we don't need another big for depth because we have Berg.
We've seen this year that only having three viable bigs leaves us vulnerable. We're only going to have three viable bigs next season too. There are better players than Berg who will fit just fine with this team and culture who will be in the portal.
Morant barely shoots some games, and they still win. He used to have to have a career night to get a W.Memphis is really stacked. Bane and Morant have missed considerable time and yet they still keep winning.
The backup center (Huff) has been very good in his limited minutes. And mostly, the defacto 4 (Jaren Jackson) is actually much more of a matchup issue for defenses when he's playing 5. Immensely athletic he doesn't have "go to" moves, instead relying on his speed and power to get past bigger, slower centers. (he's the antithesis of Zach)Why do they not play him more?!
Berg isn't going to be doing anything next season. We need another big this season and he isn't doing anything, not sure why folks keep thinking we don't need another big for depth because we have Berg.Painter was quoted as saying "I'll go in when I have to" referring to the transfer Portal.
He hasnt had a need in the transfer portal for a big man, not sure he will have a need next year with Jacobson and TKR. (Berg and Burgess too)
Technically under Keady, but during Painters first year, so he was the assistant head coach when Keady went and got Carl Landry who was a power forward.
Will we have any open scholarships next year unless we have a transfer? West in, Furst out right?
I said I would believe the scientists. I didn't say I follow the science. That's twice you've lied about what I said.I already stated a "conclusion", to which you said you would follow the science. There is no scientific consensus on this question that I know of, which is why I asked you 'which scientists" since you are following the science.
We all know about chattel slavery. It was not race based however. Africans were being enslaved by other Africans and sold off to other countries.Nope, I told y’all several times the transatlantic slave trade was based on chattel slavery. Which was race based and hatred towards the blacks. When slavery was over in 1865, if it wasn’t about race then why after reconstruction all hell breaks loose with the birth of Jim Crow, the KKK and other white supremacy groups? Compared to other forms of slavery in history. US slavery was based purely on white supremacy.
Painter was quoted as saying "I'll go in when I have to" referring to the transfer Portal.
He hasnt had a need in the transfer portal for a big man, not sure he will have a need next year with Jacobson and TKR.
Technically under Keady, but during Painters first year, so he was the assistant head coach when Keady went and got Carl Landry who was a power forward. (Berg and Burgess)
Will we have any open scholarships next year unless we have a transfer? West in, Furst out right?