IronChefBBQ said:

Because if you’re 4th in your conference, you don’t deserve a chance to play for the National Championship. And, yes, I’d have Zero problem with shrinking the basketball tourney back to the size that it once was…

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64? Yeah no doubt, but you're still not going to put a cap on how many teams from XYZ conference get in. The best teams should make it.

Chi-Boiler said:

College basketball's NET rankings, explained

Here's everything you need to know about college basketball's NET ranking system.

www.ncaa.com

Also:

What is NET?
The NCAA Evaluation Tool (NET) is a rankings system used by the NCAA Tournament to assist in seeding teams for the NCAA Tournament. The system is based on game results, strength of schedule, game location and net offensive and defensive efficiency.

Is the NET the only tool used to seed teams?
No. If it were then predicting a bracket ahead of time would be very easy. NCAA Committee members are given NET as one of their tools to help them seed teams. Committee members will also look at the data points that make up the NET rankings and other metrics to help seed teams.


The key really with all of it is, what has the committee always said: Play a good schedule, play games on the road, and win. That's the point of the quads. Also, take a look at last year's NET rankings from the end of the regular season. Why didn't everyone's darling, Indiana State, make the field? Because they were 1-4 in Q1 games. Yet their NET was 28, ahead of 15!!!!! teams that actually DID make the field.

Bracketologists :: NCAA Tournament Resumes with NET Rankings.

bracketologists.com

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We have learned that playing a tough schedule - as long as you are competitive - not only helps you with seeding but helps you in March

Chi-Boiler said:

I don't think you can put a limit on it. If the 4 best teams are in the same conference, why limit them from getting in? We don't do that in the greatest tournament ever played, do we?

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Because if you’re 4th in your conference, you don’t deserve a chance to play for the National Championship. And, yes, I’d have Zero problem with shrinking the basketball tourney back to the size that it once was…

Chi-Boiler said:

The thing about it was that this year, the B1G was incredibly top-heavy, and the Indinia schedule has a LOT to do with that top-heaviness. The top 4 have a combined 4 losses going into the B1G title game, which kinda doesn't count. The top 4 in the SEC have 8 losses, again not counting Texas yesterday. That difference is huge.

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Yeah, but top to bottom the BT ALWAYS has tougher teams that play really hard and just make it so much tougher than other conferences. (tic)

pubill said:

Someone on here a couple days ago suggested this and maybe having Eden is what made him. I think he wrong.

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He played great today. Doesn't mean he always will. For the next 18 months, he will have that stigma that Edey made him better than he is. I don't disagree with the statement. Can he still be an AA candidate, POY candidate, and lead this team to great heights? Yes. But he's better with Edey than without him. No question in my mind.

pubill said:

Go away

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I’ve urged him for months to stop snacking on paint chips— to no avail.

Looks like he got ahold of a batch with an especially potent lead content….

msfboiler3 said:

glad to see smu come back last night because it was going to alabama out

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In Tuscaloosa coaches are being burned if effigy even as we speak. Maybe they can get a nice bid to the Bud Light bowl.

Purdue Grad in Texas said:

I hear you, Chi-B....I'm just with TC.....don't think a conference should have more than two.....regardless if they eventually expand to the Big 64. That's also the problem with 12 - you'll run out of what many would think are deserving teams. Penn State also had a fairly favorable schedule.

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I don't think you can put a limit on it. If the 4 best teams are in the same conference, why limit them from getting in? We don't do that in the greatest tournament ever played, do we?

PaBoiler78 said:

also think it's a pretty good hire, had him higher than Helton, Monken, and Martin

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I breathed a sigh of relief that it wasn't Monken....

cnotez624 said:

Does he have any SOLID players to bring with him that know his systems and help try to make up for EVERYTHING that's leaving?

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It looks like their starting QB is a Sr.
So, no matter what, Purdue will have a new starting QB next year.

krazychicagod said:

Do you have a source for this? I do not believe this at all but will admit to being wrong if you show me. I know exactly ho2 the quad system works and the more quad 1 and 2 wins you have and better your record vs them, the higher your NET ranking. To say the quad wins matyer but your ranking doesnt is the same thing as saying your kenpom metrics matter but your ranking based off those metrics doesnt matter.

That is to say thats an oxymoron.

Our NET will jump big time I think with this win as it had maryland 11th going into the game. Our kenpom has been updated and we dropped. Had the lead stayed 10 we would have slightly improved.

OBviously the win is what matters but that last 60 seconds was unfortunate with maryland hitting 2 chuck 3s to close it out and us missing some fts.

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Also:

What is NET?
The NCAA Evaluation Tool (NET) is a rankings system used by the NCAA Tournament to assist in seeding teams for the NCAA Tournament. The system is based on game results, strength of schedule, game location and net offensive and defensive efficiency.

Is the NET the only tool used to seed teams?
No. If it were then predicting a bracket ahead of time would be very easy. NCAA Committee members are given NET as one of their tools to help them seed teams. Committee members will also look at the data points that make up the NET rankings and other metrics to help seed teams.


The key really with all of it is, what has the committee always said: Play a good schedule, play games on the road, and win. That's the point of the quads. Also, take a look at last year's NET rankings from the end of the regular season. Why didn't everyone's darling, Indiana State, make the field? Because they were 1-4 in Q1 games. Yet their NET was 28, ahead of 15!!!!! teams that actually DID make the field - as at-large bids, not AQs.

PaBoiler78 said:

yea, that's basically our ceiling, we're not going to compete vs the Elite week in and week out

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We just need a favorable schedule and then we can snipe a couple of the OSU, PSU, UM. OR, USC every year.

krazychicagod said:

We moved down in kenpom after the win with those final 60 seconds going from 10 to 5.

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It’s December - we’ve beaten Bama, Ole Miss, NC State, and a one loss extremely talented Maryland team today - these games make you better in March - could care less what we are now

msfboiler3 said:

Conference champs shouldnt be locked into 1 seeds. Texas and Penn State got huge breaks the way the seeding played out.

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As long as you have byes, they Absolutely have to be Conference Champions. I’m so sick of hearing about how “tough” an overrated conference that doesn’t even win 60% of their non-playoff bowl games & refuses to go on the road OOC is…

cnotez624 said:

Does he have any SOLID players to bring with him that know his systems and help try to make up for EVERYTHING that's leaving?

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Just look what IU's coach did with eight players from James Freakin' Madison and a MAC QB.

Chi-Boiler said:

Current odds to 'ship...I'm fairly positive Oregon's number went up following the release, which is a little surprising because it seemed fairly certain how their road would be. But I'm pretty sure I saw them at +300 this morning. I'm also positive that Indinia was at the bottom of the odds this morning (with Alabama included) at +8000. Again, not sure what would have made them jump.

Georgia +300
Oregon +315
Texas +350
Penn St +500
Ohio St +500
Notre Dame +1000
Tennessee +3300
Arizona St +4000
Indinia +5000
SMU +5000
Clemson +6000
Boise +7000

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Indiana should be a +50000. They must have missed a 0.

Does he have any SOLID players to bring with him that know his systems and help try to make up for EVERYTHING that's leaving?

MetMyWifeAtHarrys said:

For whatever reason, it almost appeared that Maryland was content to even be in the game during last 5 mins or so...like 'whatever we will prob lose but we did well' sort of a vibe. Very good team, but not sure they have the killer instinct yet. Braden was reason we willed to a W, but just felt like MD was the better team overall.

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The battle between TKR and Queen was very interesting. I wish TKR could pass out of the post every now and then. It's becoming a black hole in there. And sometimes Smith and TKR think they're the only players on the court. Even though we didn't have a ton of turnovers, there was a bad one mid-second half that was primarily due to that issue.

Chi-Boiler said:

If I remember right, they had a very iffy touchdown in the back left corner of the south end zone that won the game. But I'm getting old.

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Just looked at the box score and Missouri won on a walk-off FG. But I know there was a questionable call in that end zone at some point.

Chi-Boiler said:

The thing about it was that this year, the B1G was incredibly top-heavy, and the Indinia schedule has a LOT to do with that top-heaviness. The top 4 have a combined 4 losses going into the B1G title game, which kinda doesn't count. The top 4 in the SEC have 8 losses, again not counting Texas yesterday. That difference is huge.

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I hear you, Chi-B....I'm just with TC.....don't think a conference should have more than two.....regardless if they eventually expand to the Big 64. That's also the problem with 12 - you'll run out of what many would think are deserving teams. Penn State also had a fairly favorable schedule.

krazychicagod said:

Ugh on that finish. Obv win is all that matters but our close score wins have given us a joke of NET ranking of 29 so far before this win.

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Go away

HUD628 said:

If I remember right they were beating us by 2 scores, then Lock threw a real bad INT and we got a fluke tipped ball completion to Hopkins that went for like 85 yards. Comeback fell short. Blough threw for damn near 600 yards in that hame

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If I remember right, they had a very iffy touchdown in the back left corner of the south end zone that won the game. But I'm getting old.

Current odds to 'ship...I'm fairly positive Oregon's number went up following the release, which is a little surprising because it seemed fairly certain how their road would be. But I'm pretty sure I saw them at +300 this morning. I'm also positive that Indinia was at the bottom of the odds this morning (with Alabama included) at +8000. Again, not sure what would have made them jump.

Georgia +300
Oregon +315
Texas +350
Penn St +500
Ohio St +500
Notre Dame +1000
Tennessee +3300
Arizona St +4000
Indinia +5000
SMU +5000
Clemson +6000
Boise +7000

For whatever reason, it almost appeared that Maryland was content to even be in the game during last 5 mins or so...like 'whatever we will prob lose but we did well' sort of a vibe. Very good team, but not sure they have the killer instinct yet. Braden was reason we willed to a W, but just felt like MD was the better team overall.