02BoilerUp said:

At least one if not both TKR shots were forced and one where I believe Harris was wide open on the perimeter after having the hot hand. Just thought there was some poor decision making in that stretch that could've went a long way to sealing the game.

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Oh there's plenty in the film session for Painter, and you don't even need to take a hard look at it for instruction. You'd rather that not come after a loss (especially at home), but it's all about how you deal with adversity now.....win as a team, lose as a team - players and coaches alike.

We'll see what happens Friday because that's another set of challenges in that match-up.

BBG said:

The loss sucked sure.. but no time to dwell on it with Michigan coming up in a couple days. Hopefully the loss will be a valuable learning experience and there is a huge fire on the team and we roll UM by 20.

UM is a good team and may give us some fits.. Purdue is more than capable at beating them by a truckload and also losing.. that is what happens when you're reloading.... But.. I think we win comfortably by 10+ as the team plays focused the entire game.

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We need to get our shooting back from 3 and incorporate into the offense. Harris is showing he should be sixth man off the bench for the backcourt (yep I said it finally @TwinDegrees2 ). He’s looking confident with his shot, puts pressure on the defense by driving to the hoop, and playing defense well. Colvin and Heide still should get their mins but we need them to produce 8-12 ppg and 4-8 rebounds per game (combined) for us to be really dangerous.

Ohio state woke us back up last year and hope this does the same. The 3 Pete will be tougher now, but still not impossible. If the boys can put together another 7 game win streak, theyll be in good shape.

Eager to see how they bounce back against a really good Michigan team after their first loss in 2025.

Boiler Buck said:

That is a given

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I was trying to keep the blow soft so we might get some participation from the Fauci defenders here.

DrEss said:

Yes, that was the point of the game I felt was lost it. As you say, coming back and getting the 6 point lead with momentum was great. Unfortunately we missed 3 fairly easy shots in a row at the rim, 2 by TKR, 1 by BS and 1 blocked of CF. As good as Purdue was in making those shots most of the game, missing those at that stage were critical, imho.

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At least one if not both TKR shots were forced and one where I believe Harris was wide open on the perimeter after having the hot hand. Just thought there was some poor decision making in that stretch that could've went a long way to sealing the game.

Wolegib said:

just a tad premature to be predicting a 2 seed. there is a lot of basketball left to be played. and a lot of basketball to be played against good teams.

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Mr. Hindsight

Dryfly88 said:

Yeah, Tex after we got back to a 6 point lead and had the ball I thought we were ok. Very disappointing loss for sure.

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Yes, that was the point of the game I felt was lost it. As you say, coming back and getting the 6 point lead with momentum was great. Unfortunately we missed 3 fairly easy shots in a row at the rim, 2 by TKR, 1 by BS and 1 blocked of CF. As good as Purdue was in making those shots most of the game, missing those at that stage were critical, imho.

Purdue58 said:

Give Ohio State credit they pressured Smith to the point where he started forcing up shots and took him out of his game.
Ohio State just used the blueprint on how to beat Purdue...pressure pressure pressure.
This offence does not handle pressure on the ball in half court situations.

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Usually 2 ways to beat Purdue....
1. Pressure Smith.
2. Hold down our shooting.

They did just ok, on both above, enough to get the win, because mainly our D disappeared in H2. Playing D where we allow a 45 pt half will get you beat alot. Lol

Just so the B10 makes more $. That is the important thing, right?

The travel stress, while being a student athlete is obviously effecting these kids at all schools.

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ImRonBurgandy? said:

Smith shot us out of the game in the 2nd half

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Give Ohio State credit they pressured Smith to the point where he started forcing up shots and took him out of his game.
Ohio State just used the blueprint on how to beat Purdue...pressure pressure pressure.
This offence does not handle pressure on the ball in half court situations.

Oops, I thought the game was tomorrow. Looking back, I'm glad I missed it. Eeks

jdbrees922 said:

Ever watch Loyer’s D . Don’t talk about not taking advantage of playing time . When they are in all we do is high ball screen and Smith dump it to Renn. Ever see that double screen we used to run for Dakota ?

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How did Harris score 8 pts then?

Ever watch Loyer’s D . Don’t talk about not taking advantage of playing time . When they are in all we do is high ball screen and Smith dump it to Renn. Ever see that double screen we used to run for Dakota ?

johnboiler123 said:

To me, overall team talent has been an issue for most of painters career. He’s a good coach and gets his players to play hard and as a team. But he’s never recruited at a high level and it shows at times when facing more athletically gifted teams.

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OSU is probably average athletically in Big 10 and I would say Matt has done pretty well so far.

Well he saw a team collapse and lose to a not good OSU tonight. Not the outcome you’d like for him to have witnessed…

seminolesboilers said:

Don’t use tiredness as an excuse for a loss…good teams find a way to beat a team at home who is only 2 games over .500 coming in. We sucked tonight….and have major issues playing 3 (Smith, Loyer, Kaufman-Renn) on 5. If one of those three is off …then it is very, very difficult to win. Painter isn’t helping the confidence of Colvin and Heidi by not running plays for those two. If Colvin and Heidi bolt after this season for a new start and are very productive elsewhere…that would not surprise me at all. Colvin and Heidi are talented…but Painter is not making use of that talent or does not know how , which frankly is very bad coaching!

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Put Newman in, same thing. He bolted and was a superstar and now in the NBA. Oh wait, he went to a lower tier program , got more minutes and had a mediocre career after Purdue. You have to make the most of your minutes in the game and show some consistency from game to game. Heide and Colvin have not. The fact is neither have good handles, the same thing that doomed Newman.

Purdue0023 said:

I thought sitting Smith when he got 2 fouls was a bad decision. I think we should have rolled the dice and left him in. Ended up probably being his worst shooting game of the season as a result. Was Not very happy with the refs tonight. Smith gets bowled over and they don't call anything? Hopefully we don't lose any more home games the rest of the way. If we do there is likely no way we win the regular season title. Need more from Colvin, Heide and Furst than we got tonight.

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Your last sentence is more critical than how long Smith sat.

Feels like two players came to play most of the game, Loyer and TKR.

pubill said:

Your D was good though

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My D has been strong for a long time

Pubill…
You are a dolt when it comes to basketball IQ.

seminolesboilers said:

Don’t use tiredness as an excuse for a loss…good teams find a way to beat a team at home who is only 2 games over .500 coming in. We sucked tonight….and have major issues playing 3 (Smith, Loyer, Kaufman-Renn) on 5. If one of those three is off …then it is very, very difficult to win. Painter isn’t helping the confidence of Colvin and Heidi by not running plays for those two. If Colvin and Heidi bolt after this season for a new start and are very productive elsewhere…that would not surprise me at all. Colvin and Heidi are talented…but Painter is not making use of that talent or does not know how , which frankly is very bad coaching!

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You just don’t understand.

qazplm said:

I mean what have either of them done while in there?

I get it, they can't shake out of this without opportunities but they are almost invisible when they get them.

They got 23 minutes of playing time between them tonight and they scored as many pts as I did and only got 3 more rebounds then I did.

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Your D was good though

TwinDegrees2 said:

Maybe he had a reason not to play them. Maybe.

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Because they did zero in 1st half.

jdbrees922 said:

Tell that to Painter who didn’t play Colvin at all and Heide a brief stint in the second half. And instead tried forcing it inside all game

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I mean what have either of them done while in there?

I get it, they can't shake out of this without opportunities but they are almost invisible when they get them.

They got 23 minutes of playing time between them tonight and they scored as many pts as I did and only got 3 more rebounds then I did.

Don’t use tiredness as an excuse for a loss…good teams find a way to beat a team at home who is only 2 games over .500 coming in. We sucked tonight….and have major issues playing 3 (Smith, Loyer, Kaufman-Renn) on 5. If one of those three is off …then it is very, very difficult to win. Painter isn’t helping the confidence of Colvin and Heidi by not running plays for those two. If Colvin and Heidi bolt after this season for a new start and are very productive elsewhere…that would not surprise me at all. Colvin and Heidi are talented…but Painter is not making use of that talent or does not know how , which frankly is very bad coaching!

Gman544 said:

Purdue came off a long road trip. They faced an athletic team with some big guards that made 11 3’s shooting 47% from three. They were hitting crazy shots at the buzzer at a high percentage. Purdue did not play well in the second half and were bothered by their athleticism and physical play. All the critiques here have good points. In the end Ohio State got red hot and beat a tired Purdue team in the second half.

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I mean Colvin and Heide haven't been playing forty minutes a game. This was a great time for them to step in and pick up their games and the slack.

Right now both of them are simply too passive. Heide won't take shots, and Colvin let's it get to him too much when he misses one.

We are effectively playing 8 deep with Burgess getting token minutes and our top two bench guys are giving us next to nothing too many games.

Tonight 23 minutes, 2 shots, 0 points, 3 rebounds and 2 assists.
That's just not going to work.