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The pending Biden investigation

I can't understand why the president is so fixed on what Schiff said. I agree it was uncalled for and stupid considering the gravity of the situation.........but it means nothing. We have the transcript of the call, we know what Schiff said was not real.....and not meant to be.

He’s fixated on it (as are others on here) because they have nothing else and are trying to deflect and divert attention. Trump also knows his base is simple and will believe anything he says.
 
Let’s see, the president makes fun of people every day and that’s fine. Schiff does a parody (he shouldn’t have by the way) but he should be flogged. Do I have that right?
No, you should set the same standards for your liberal heros as you do the Prez.

Did you miss the part where i said Schiff shouldn’t have done that?

I’ll patiently wait while you say Trump should start acting presidential.....
 

:48 - please go ahead
2:21 - what's the nature of the kompromat?
3:00 - would the materials you are providing the committee corroborate...
3:22 - so you have recordings discussing the compromising material?
5:23 - well obviously we would welcome the chance to get copies of those
7:52 - we will be back in touch through our staff to make arrangements to obtain these materials for our committee and the fbi

Again, you're leaving out the full quotes to make it seem like something different.

Caller: Sure, of course. When they were in Ukraine we got their conversation by the phone where they are discussing those compromising materials. We are ready to provide it.

Schiff: So you have recordings of both Sobchak and Buzova where they are discussing the compromising material on Trump?

Caller: Absolutely, and we also know who was a mediator between Trump and Russian government who met with ex-advisor of Trump, Mr. Flynn. It was Russian singer, very famous singer, Arkadiy Ukupnik, who met with Mr. Flynn on Brighton Beach in Brooklyn in special Russian café Langeron.

Schiff: Okay. Well obviously we would welcome the chance to get copies of those recordings. So we will try to work with the FBI to figure out along with your staff how we can obtain copies of those.


They discuss the recordings. That's what they keep coming back to, does the caller have the call recordings where the blackmail was discussed. And he also comes back to working with the FBI to make sure everything is proper. How you continue to spin this to Schiff asking for naked pictures defies all logic. You don't have to admit it to me, but I hope you take a minute to think about this and realize the lies you were told. There's an opportunity for a lesson to be learned here.
 
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Again, you're leaving out the full quotes to make it seem like something different.

Caller: Sure, of course. When they were in Ukraine we got their conversation by the phone where they are discussing those compromising materials. We are ready to provide it.

Schiff: So you have recordings of both Sobchak and Buzova where they are discussing the compromising material on Trump?

Caller: Absolutely, and we also know who was a mediator between Trump and Russian government who met with ex-advisor of Trump, Mr. Flynn. It was Russian singer, very famous singer, Arkadiy Ukupnik, who met with Mr. Flynn on Brighton Beach in Brooklyn in special Russian café Langeron.

Schiff: Okay. Well obviously we would welcome the chance to get copies of those recordings. So we will try to work with the FBI to figure out along with your staff how we can obtain copies of those.


They discuss the recordings. That's what they keep coming back to, does the caller have the call recordings where the blackmail was discussed. And he also comes back to working with the FBI to make sure everything is proper. How you continue to spin this to Schiff asking for naked pictures defies all logic. You don't have to admit it to me, but I hope you take a minute to think about this and realize the lies you were told. There's an opportunity for a lesson to be learned here.
no they discuss both. They discuss both the material and the recordings. The material at first, then that they have recordings of people discussing it. You are purposely being obtuse at this point. The facts are there for those who care.
 
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In the military, but more so in intel, there was a saying that one screw up takes the place of a thousand attaboys. Rough places. He should realize that, know who he works with, what committee he is chair of, and how it came across.
In the military, but more so in intel, there was a saying that one screw up takes the place of a thousand attaboys. Rough places. He should realize that, know who he works with, what committee he is chair of, and how it came across.
Fine.
In a world where the Trump/Rudy marblemouth machine has garnered most of the ridicule in the room, the Schiff moment was a welcomed respite for the opposition.
But unlike the "military" or skydiving, this one 'screw up" will obviously not prevent Schiff from performing his duties in the upcoming Impeachment hearings with the esteem that he has earned, intact.
Being ripped by Trump still endows some degree of credibility from everyone BUT the Trumpers.
 
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no they discuss both. They discuss both the material and the recordings. The material at first, then that they have recordings of people discussing it. You are purposely being obtuse at this point. The facts are there for those who care.
Dude, what world are you living in? It's one thing to be proven wrong and slink away because you don't want to admit you were wrong. It's another thing entirely to continue to lie when the facts are right there in black and white. Be better than the propaganda that you've been consuming. You have an opportunity to learn a real lesson and be better, please take it.
 
Or he was willing to take any chance on getting literally any dirt on Trump? What a pathetic person. Then when Biden actually is corrupt, it's still all Trump's fault. Those are impressive gymnastics boys. How do you take your own logic trains seriously.

Shifty Shiff is digging his own grave. He was out of line in his initial press conference following the Ukraine call and now, there's some evidence that he had knowledge of, and potentially personal dealings with the WB prior to it going to the intel committee.
He's on a slippery slope that's now on an incline and he's looking for something, anything, related to Trump that could help save him.
 
Shifty Shiff is digging his own grave. He was out of line in his initial press conference following the Ukraine call and now, there's some evidence that he had knowledge of, and potentially personal dealings with the WB prior to it going to the intel committee.
He's on a slippery slope that's now on an incline and he's looking for something, anything, related to Trump that could help save him.

Good little soldiers you all are.
 
Shifty Shiff is digging his own grave. He was out of line in his initial press conference following the Ukraine call and now, there's some evidence that he had knowledge of, and potentially personal dealings with the WB prior to it going to the intel committee.
He's on a slippery slope that's now on an incline and he's looking for something, anything, related to Trump that could help save him.
Now y'see, Bone, there's gonna be one dangling component of your post, here, that becomes the KEY question ??

When you state that there's " SOME " evidence of.............
You're gonna have to expand on just what "SOME" means.
Problem is....it's HARDLY ANYTHING !!
See ya' later. As always, nice try.
 
Fine.
In a world where the Trump/Rudy marblemouth machine has garnered most of the ridicule in the room, the Schiff moment was a welcomed respite for the opposition.
But unlike the "military" or skydiving, this one 'screw up" will obviously not prevent Schiff from performing his duties in the upcoming Impeachment hearings with the esteem that he has earned, intact.
Being ripped by Trump still endows some degree of credibility from everyone BUT the Trumpers.

I suppose. I just look at it as your behavior stands on it s own. And Schiff is not exactly real clean in this Ukraine qpq issue, although will say his issues are not foreign government related.
 
Let’s see, the president makes fun of people every day and that’s fine. Schiff does a parody (he shouldn’t have by the way) but he should be flogged. Do I have that right?

No. I thought the goal was for better behavior than Trump and quite a few others in elected officials.

Anyway, I screw off and talk garbage quite often. That said, time and place man, time and place.
 
Now y'see, Bone, there's gonna be one dangling component of your post, here, that becomes the KEY question ??

When you state that there's " SOME " evidence of.............
You're gonna have to expand on just what "SOME" means.
Problem is....it's HARDLY ANYTHING !!
See ya' later. As always, nice try.

Don't worry, the democrat spin and cover-up machine will get unraveled, just like it did with Hilary's emails, and Bills private meetings on a plane, and Biden's video of influence to benefit family members.
Don't forget, Trump has plenty of loyal people on the inside giving him information as well.
 
Dude, what world are you living in? It's one thing to be proven wrong and slink away because you don't want to admit you were wrong. It's another thing entirely to continue to lie when the facts are right there in black and white. Be better than the propaganda that you've been consuming. You have an opportunity to learn a real lesson and be better, please take it.
Dude, if the facts were there in black and white, Pelosi would have started the Impeachment process already.
 
Don't worry, the democrat spin and cover-up machine will get unraveled, just like it did with Hilary's emails, and Bills private meetings on a plane, and Biden's video of influence to benefit family members.
Don't forget, Trump has plenty of loyal people on the inside giving him information as well.
It's already begun Bone. It began with the Shifff lies, and it's now uncovering that Shiftt's legal staff are involved with writing the "note".
 
It's already begun Bone. It began with the Shifff lies, and it's now uncovering that Shiftt's legal staff are involved with writing the "note".
Where do you get this stuff? Let's see your link of Schiff's staff writing the note. At this point we have the phone call, text messages, and video admissions proving the whistleblower's complaint was accurate.
 
Where do you get this stuff? Let's see your link of Schiff's staff writing the note. At this point we have the phone call, text messages, and video admissions proving the whistleblower's complaint was accurate.
Where does Twin " get this stuff " ??
Not from the right-wing media.
From the flamethrowing, grenade launching battalion of the right-wing media.
 
Don't worry, the democrat spin and cover-up machine will get unraveled, just like it did with Hilary's emails, and Bills private meetings on a plane, and Biden's video of influence to benefit family members.
Don't forget, Trump has plenty of loyal people on the inside giving him information as well.
1) Just how many of Bill Clinton's "meetingS " on planes were there ??
Other than the Loretta Lynch one ??
2) the "Biden 'video' " ? Evidence of WHAT ??
3)Trump has plenty of "loyalists" ??? Oooooh !! you mean plenty of co-conspirators, don't you ???
 
I suppose. I just look at it as your behavior stands on it s own. And Schiff is not exactly real clean in this Ukraine qpq issue, although will say his issues are not foreign government related.
And Schiff will never have to be subjected to the mountain of criticism that the President brings upon himself for his outrageous behavior.
Schiff is a gentleman.
 
The same place you get your shit about Trump.
That response doesn't' even make any sense. You see the news reports on Trump are backed up by evidence of witness accounts, text messages, emails, phone recordings. I mean you have Trump and Giuliani going on camera and admitting to crimes, not sure how you can explain that away. The news is not reporting that Schiff's staff wrote the whistleblower complaint. So we're clearly not getting our information from the same place. Where did you get that little nugget of fake news?
 
1) Just how many of Bill Clinton's "meetingS " on planes were there ??
Other than the Loretta Lynch one ??
2) the "Biden 'video' " ? Evidence of WHAT ??
3)Trump has plenty of "loyalists" ??? Oooooh !! you mean plenty of co-conspirators, don't you ???

1) Do you even understand what the meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch was about? Do some research. Nevermind, i'll summarize it for you: It was basically to try and keep Hilary out of trouble.
2) Evidence of what? Umm, how about "you either fire that prosecutor investigating the company my son sits on the board of, or you don't get the $1B dollars" If that's not QPQ, I don't know what is.
 
That response doesn't' even make any sense. You see the news reports on Trump are backed up by evidence of witness accounts, text messages, emails, phone recordings. I mean you have Trump and Giuliani going on camera and admitting to crimes, not sure how you can explain that away. The news is not reporting that Schiff's staff wrote the whistleblower complaint. So we're clearly not getting our information from the same place. Where did you get that little nugget of fake news?

if there were 'crimes' the impeachment would have already occurred.
What you have is the Dems taking what Trump says, and trying to twist it with innuendo, inference and what they 'think' he was implying.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way.
 
1) Do you even understand what the meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch was about? Do some research. Nevermind, i'll summarize it for you: It was basically to try and keep Hilary out of trouble.
2) Evidence of what? Umm, how about "you either fire that prosecutor investigating the company my son sits on the board of, or you don't get the $1B dollars" If that's not QPQ, I don't know what is.

lol Trump straight up asking other nation states to investigate his political opponents is something you don't care about. BUT THE TARMAC MEETING SHOULD NEVER BE FORGOTTEN OR FORGIVEN.
 
The playbook is demonize the opponent. The problem is while the Trumpies are busy demonizing poor Joe, Miss Elizabeth will sneekin there and steal the show.
 
lol Trump straight up asking other nation states to investigate his political opponents is something you don't care about. BUT THE TARMAC MEETING SHOULD NEVER BE FORGOTTEN OR FORGIVEN.

Context my friend.....context.
Trump didn't ask them to investigate Biden to bring up current dirt. What he was suggesting is that they investigate they own internal actions based on Biden's role in getting that prosecutor fired because it certainly seems like Biden used his position as VPUS to influence what was an internal Ukraine investigation.
He's basically telling them to investigate their internal corruption because Biden might have had something to do with it.
 
The playbook is demonize the opponent. The problem is while the Trumpies are busy demonizing poor Joe, Miss Elizabeth will sneekin there and steal the show.

You mean Elizabeth "the socialist, raise your taxes, I'm an native American" Warren?

She's only about 1 step removed from Bernie.
 
lol Trump straight up asking other nation states to investigate his political opponents is something you don't care about. BUT THE TARMAC MEETING SHOULD NEVER BE FORGOTTEN OR FORGIVEN.

Context my friend.....context.
Trump didn't ask them to investigate Biden to bring up current dirt. What he was suggesting is that they investigate they own internal actions based on Biden's role in getting that prosecutor fired because it certainly seems like Biden used his position as VPUS to influence what was an internal Ukraine investigation.
He's basically telling them to investigate their internal corruption because Biden might have had something to do with it.

Hear that, miksta? All you have to do is focus on the context. Because when you do that, asking a commie country to investigate your political rival is absolutely fine. Duh. I’ll have to remember that during the next natural disaster. Sure that hurricane decimated everything for hundreds of miles. But at least it wasn’t thousands of miles because context.
 
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1) Do you even understand what the meeting between Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch was about? Do some research. Nevermind, i'll summarize it for you: It was basically to try and keep Hilary out of trouble.
2) Evidence of what? Umm, how about "you either fire that prosecutor investigating the company my son sits on the board of, or you don't get the $1B dollars" If that's not QPQ, I don't know what is.

1) My question to you was predicated on your use of the plural "meetings", you know - with an "s"-with regard to Bill Clinton's " private meetings on planes ", as you put it. WHAT OTHER MEETINGS DID MR. CLINTON HAVE ON PLANES ABOUT WHICH YOU CARE TO ELABORATE ?? HUH ??
2) I don't need to do one more damn SECOND of research on the Clinton/Lynch meeting. Was totally familiar THEN about it, and STILL AM. You'll now be glad to link me and others, here, with a connection to the documented record of the DOJ's investigation of this, and its CONCLUSION that " it was to try and keep Hillary out of trouble "
3) " If that's not QPQ, I don't know what is. "

You got that right: You DON'T know what is.
 
Context my friend.....context.
Trump didn't ask them to investigate Biden to bring up current dirt. What he was suggesting is that they investigate they own internal actions based on Biden's role in getting that prosecutor fired because it certainly seems like Biden used his position as VPUS to influence what was an internal Ukraine investigation.
He's basically telling them to investigate their internal corruption because Biden might have had something to do with it.

lol c'mon now.
 
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Doing the same thing in China cuz Biden got some government officials fired there too..... It just hasn't been reported yet. No worries, Trump will get around to it.

Biden is clearly the most pressing and egregious instance of corruption happening in both Ukraine and China. Thank goodness Trump is on top of it and not worried about the optics. A true man of integrity.
 
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The sworn affidavit states that Poroshenko asked him to resign “due to pressure from the U.S. Presidential administration, in particular from Joe Biden.”
 
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