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He just said trump was Fiscal conservative. He is trolling us guys. Republicans are horrible at running economies. Poor Biden has to clean up another republican recession

Trump is anything but a fiscal conservative. He's a Keynesian at heart and will do anything to tout the stock market or an economic statistic that makes him look good. But, with that being said, let's not just place a future recession on the Republican party/Trump. I abhor deficit spending, but the problem did not begin with Trump, nor will it end with him. And from what I heard from the Biden/Harris ticket, this spending is going nowhere.

Let's be real with ourselves -- neither party has been honest themselves when it comes to the economic policy, and if you think Biden/Harris will be, you're being played.
 
Russia, Russia, Russia...Will it never end?...LOL
You fools are still Obama Obama Obama. We get it. Orange man gooooooo! Also. What kind of a 70 year old man still says “lol”. Creepy.
Trump is anything but a fiscal conservative. He's a Keynesian at heart and will do anything to tout the stock market or an economic statistic that makes him look good. But, with that being said, let's not just place a future recession on the Republican party/Trump. I abhor deficit spending, but the problem did not begin with Trump, nor will it end with him. And from what I heard from the Biden/Harris ticket, this spending is going nowhere.

Let's be real with ourselves -- neither party has been honest themselves when it comes to the economic policy, and if you think Biden/Harris will be, you're being played.
Classic empty deflection. Bottomline is the economy has historically performed better under a Democratic President. Trump blew the deficit up while the Obama economy was still booming.
 
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Aka low iq people can’t tell when they are being lied too. Last thing we need is poor rural America picking who leads our country. Red states have their own problems to deal with.
We the people have spoken. It’s time for the vocal minority to step aside and let the big boys run things now.
 
Who told you this? Carrier pigeons?

I believe I read it in one of Obama's books. It was about a decade ago, so the source is not currently in the memory banks. I'm sure a simple google search should verify it for you. They were old Chicago cronies.
 
Yes, but as I've pointed out elsewhere in this thread, rescinding 230 does more than just take away their power to be "editors" as you say. It makes them liable for anything posted on their sites. Do you honestly believe that is going to lead them to being MORE open with the people/content they allow on their platform?

That's not what I'm saying, They were given the 230 liability protection, BECAUSE they were supposed to be just a conduit for chat, with minimal restriction abilities. What is causing Congress to rethink their 230 protection is that they are much more proactive Editing, than they led Congress to believe. Due to their rampant and ideologically skewed editing, Congress is considering rebranding them as a Publisher, which would make them lose their 230 protections.

Rescinding it would happen, if the Congress determines that they are a Publisher, at which point they assume responsibility for everything on their site.

Bottom line, if they want to keep the 230 protection, they need to throttle back on their Editing.
 
You fools are still Obama Obama Obama. We get it. Orange man gooooooo! Also. What kind of a 70 year old man still says “lol”. Creepy.

Classic empty deflection. Bottomline is the economy has historically performed better under a Democratic President. Trump blew the deficit up while the Obama economy was still booming.

Not deflecting-- merely stating that there is a massive problem looming if we don't get our spending under control. I'm not here to defend Trump or praise any of his policies. I simply thought that my original point wasn't very controversial.

I would also pump the brakes with your claim that the economy does better under Democratic presidents. Yes, the real GDP has grown about 1.6 times faster under Democratic presidents since Truman, but a president isn't even close to the entire story. You have external factors such as actions of the Fed, the strength (or lack thereof) of foreign economies, and changing societal trends. I'm not sure I have seen a study that has confirmed the relationship between a better economy and a Democratic president.

I think one of leading studies on this matter summed the relationship up by saying its an odd mixture of policy and good luck.
 
Trump and his followers have decided to focus on attacking people and their rights based on the color of their skin, sexuality, gender, their religion, and where they are from all while inciting violence and hate. They thought that doing well economically would cover them attacking peoples rights.

Even with that, Trump still came close to winning the election based on people leaning conservative fiscally.

His hate and his followers hate is why he lost. Their then and current fascist craziness to overthrow the election has turned most of his then supporters against him.

You have really got to stop OD'ing on CNN & MSNBC. You could not be more wrong on any of this crap. If you were looking for hate, all you had to do was tune in to CNN/MSNBC or listen to Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler & Schumer and you got all the lies & hate you could handle. What people did Trump attack and what rights did he attack?

The charges of racism are laughable. He had minorities in his cabinet and he got a greater percentage of Black votes than any Republican President in history and the percentage of minority votes increased about 50% from the 2016 election. Prior to the pandemic, minorities (Blacks/Hispanics) had the lowest unemployment rate in history and the highest rate of wage growth in history. If Trump is a racist, he sucks at it.

DNI Richard Grenell was an openly gay cabinet member.

You are laboring under a lot of misconceptions, because what you're describing just isn't true. Trump wasn't a Fiscal Conservative. You've bought into a lot of lies. Do a little research and you'll find I'm telling you the Truth.
 
No. Hannity would not rest until there was justice. It was all he talked about. Now that this happens on American soil and kills five people, it’s time to heal the country. Sort of what he says every time someone shoots up a school. He is a hypocrite.

BS. Hannity wants everyone that broached the Capital arrested and punished. He can also want to have the country heal at the same time. We're currently as divided as I've ever seen us in over 60 years and I don't see anyone on the Left wanting to bring us back together.

Pelosi still wants to get her vendetta on Trump, before he leaves town. It's almost obsessive. If she goes through with the impeachment, it will further divide the nation. Perhaps she feels all powerful, since Dems have the WH and both houses of Congress. She needs to be aware that she has a very small margin in the House and a tied Senate. If she gets too ambitious, the Dems are in danger of losing the House & the Senate in the midterms. She & Schumer are faced with a delicate balancing act.
 
This part of the story is far fetched and not verified.
She did however post that she "loved" the attack on the capital before she deleted her FB account. That is verified.
She also was has posted many negative things against the BLM movement, including things focused on peaceful aspects of the protests...for those on here trying to twist everything onto the other aspects of the by far vastly protests over the entire globe including other countries movement.

Sounds more like a fake account trying to make people believe that she's Thomas' wife. When I hear something outrageous like this, my first reaction is, why would someone in that position do something so out of character? It doesn't make any sense.
 
low iq people can’t tell when they are being lied too. Last thing we need is poor rural America picking who leads our country. Red states have their own problems to deal with.
We the people have spoken. It’s time for the vocal minority to step aside and let the big boys run things now.

You are proof positive of your first sentence.

Yup, the Blue states are being run so well, everyone is leaving them and moving to TX & FL. Cuomo has NY so screwed up that people from NY are flying down to FL to get Covid vaccine.

I read your ridiculous posts and I can't decide if you are a young child or whether doubling your IQ might raise it to double digits.

If I can teach my dog to type, I'll see if I can have him teach you about economics, since I think you would be challenged making change for a dollar.
 
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I am absolutely for free enterprise and less government, but I'm even more in favor of our Constitutional Rights. I believe the whole Freedom of Speech thing was put in the Constitution, so differing political opinions could be openly voiced, without fear of censorship or retribution. It really appears that Big Tech is trying to suppress any speech that drifts a bit Right of center. There seems to be no limit on how far Left that speech can go, but tight controls on the other side. It looks a lot like censorship to me.

Some of you can feel smug that it's not affecting you, but when some of us lose our rights, it won't be too long, before more of you will as well. That's part of being in a Socialist Utopia. The state has all the rights and the people have none. Step by step, we are going the way of Venezuela and some of you are too indoctrinated or too dense to see it.

I got a 7 day ban on FB for saying ''you aren't too bright are you'' on a local issue. That is just crazy , they said it went against community standards.
 
You are proof positive of your first sentence.

Yup, the Blue states are being run so well, everyone is leaving them and moving to TX & FL. Cuomo has NY so screwed up that people from NY are flying down to FL to get Covid vaccine.

I read your ridiculous posts and I can't decide if you are a young child or whether doubling your IQ might raise it to double digits.

If I can teach my dog to type, I'll see if I can have him teach you about economics, since I think you would be challenged making change for a dollar.

A larger percentage of NYers have received the vaccine than Floridians. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/covid-19-vaccine-doses.html

The hard-on you guys have for Cuomo is truly hilarious.

Do you ever feel even the smallest amount of remorse for spreading so much bad information?
 
I suspect it's a slanderous attack to start an internet myth. When you hear the same lie often enough it starts having the ring of truth. Things like Socialism is a good form of Government. A lot of deluded fools have heard that multiple times and are buying in.
The only myth was Sophie falsely attributing the comment to TMan rather than accurately indicating the post was referring to the suggestion that had been floated by self-proclaimed Trump lawyer, Lin Wood. At least you are correct to the extent of myth making procedures...
 
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Lol. You think the "tax cut" reference meant that's all he did?

For all your long winded replies, you rarely talk about the subject at hand........that while all you people applauded his policies you dismissed his obvious examples of deep character flaws and poor judgement.......among many other deficiencies.

His public policies had little to do with insurrectionists attacking our democracy. His narcissism and lack of morals had everything to do with it.

You told us not to pay attention to what he says,only what he does. In this case, both led directly to the assault on the Capitol.
Who has TDS now?
No Bob that tax cut is not all he did. I reeled off some other things off the top of my head he did that I liked...many that people before him should have done. Did you miss those?

Then you mention this,"His public policies had little to do with insurrectionists attacking our democracy. His narcissism and lack of morals had everything to do with it." and I wonder what you have not witnessed during the previous administrations in actions...much more powerful than words. Recalling the blaming off the "video" for Benghazi was to serve the stupid, much like we are seeing today and as I said...we have a lot of stupid people with keyboards and phones as social media has shown us. They are not confined to one side of the aisle. Did you forget that? Lies and projections are quite common, as evidence has shown for over four years.

Now somewhere and perhaps it too was missed, I talked about the "hot" topic of many years ago with the same type of reasoning on violence in TV. The bottom line there as "also" mentioned was that "VIOLENCE" on TV did NOT lead to more violence in the public. Do you see the same concern...the same reasoning....the same results, but don't see the same answer?

Trump didn't make people enter the capital. Those people wanted to do that. Trump didn't make people burn down cities, shoot cops and loot. Those people wanted to do that. This herd mentality told by the media take root in the gray areas of what should be potentially capable of some level of thought rather than being told "what" to think or more appropriately "FEEL". Blame shifting is yet "ANOTHER" form of control and here we see media doing it and YOU following along in your typing. I know the answers years ago (if in question) in the soc we took was to blame society rather than the individual and here you are indicating that someone makes another do that, what the other doesn't want to do, but does anyway absent some real threat. Think about what you are actually saying (indicating that someone makes another do that, what the other doesn't want to do, but does anyway absent some real threat). That is what you have stated. Do you not see how foolish that is? Were the actual comments Trump has made in Twitter before the election and after that different? That is a question since I don't really know, but pretty confident in how I would bet. Why was there no concern of censorship prior...afraid of some legislation that would affect them? I never went...I liked Trump's policies...why didn't I go? NONE of this has anything to do with Trump it was people that made individual choices to do what they did whether entering the capital, shooting cops, looting or burning cities. Those were people that should be held accountable and you are giving them a free pass and blaming someone that didn't do what they did. I could go on about the displays of ignorance of history concerning the statues and things, but it appears that those statues incited violence and destruction as well. How F'ing stupid are we? Seriously!

Lastly, if not already addressed above, your comment"His narcissism and lack of morals had everything to do with it." and the implication of mindless robots programmed against their will, absent any threat did what they didn't want to do makes about as much sense as an employer hiring men instead of women and losing 23% of the potential reduction in labor costs because get this....drum roll please....men don't like women and are willing to lose that resulting profit margin just to hire men. Ignore the logic...let's go find a link...

Trump obviously shows narcissic flaws. Did you have your eyes closed with Obama, someone that listed "I" many more times than "we" when speaking? Trump obviously has flaws in his morality as well (many not affecting me). Is it less moral to intentionally lie and attack those with the IRS that had different views than you held? Was it less moral to use bankruptcy as a means of treating hourly and salary different to try to buy votes? Are we reduced to treating "words" and "actions" with the same weight?

Now excuse me as I have to get some more work done and have a few things to accomplish once Trump tells me what to do...
 
Russia, Russia, Russia...Will it never end?...LOL
You tell me? If you want to ignore the fact of all the Russian ties behind Parker, do so at your own peril. I’m sure Putin will find a server farm for them to get back up and running soon.

FYI ... i hope none of you uploaded anything important there .... due to the crappy design and deployment it’s all been hacked. The good news is the FBI and others have all the data as well so it will be helpful to sort out what happened before Wednesday’s mess.

 
Work on your reading skills - Post 333

For someone who professes to be a lifelong Conservative, you sound a lot more like BuilderBob, than any Conservative I've ever seen on this board. Why am I seeing pictures of RHINOs???
You can be a conservative/republican and despise Trump and what he has done to the party. There’s a growing list of those people.

On the Twitter bans ... most all of those were short term and for very specific posts. Hegsheth posted an anti-American terrorist’s manifesto. Bongino posted the same Trump video that inflamed last week and was asked to take it down.

This is the best cumulative list of suspensions i could find. I’m not sure i disagree with many of them and they are usually short term and due to a specific potentially violent or threatening post. Nobody is being stopped from expressing their opinion or POV on a subject.

BTW ... I did note both the Ayatolah and Farrakhan on the list of suspensions.

 
Lol ... will have to agree to disagree there.
Agree, we will have to disagree. MSM gave Joe and Harris a free pass from tough questions beyond what flavor of ice cream Joe likes, and blacked out the Hunter PC story and corroboration by a former business associate. In a close election, that was enough to do it.
 
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Agree, we will have to disagree. MSM gave Joe and Harris a free pass from tough questions beyond what flavor of ice cream Joe likes, and blacked out the Hunter PC story and corroboration by a former business associate. In a close election, that was enough to do it.
I don’t disagree that left/msm gave Joe a pass. I dont think it had a huge impact ... if anything trying to suppress the story caused even more attention. Do you think any voter who cared didn’t know about it?

And let’s be honest ... Biden’s #1 most effective campaign tactic ... let Trump talk.
 
BS. Hannity wants everyone that broached the Capital arrested and punished. He can also want to have the country heal at the same time. We're currently as divided as I've ever seen us in over 60 years and I don't see anyone on the Left wanting to bring us back together.

Pelosi still wants to get her vendetta on Trump, before he leaves town. It's almost obsessive. If she goes through with the impeachment, it will further divide the nation. Perhaps she feels all powerful, since Dems have the WH and both houses of Congress. She needs to be aware that she has a very small margin in the House and a tied Senate. If she gets too ambitious, the Dems are in danger of losing the House & the Senate in the midterms. She & Schumer are faced with a delicate balancing act.

Key difference. He wants the people in the building prosecuted, but not the people that caused it. Because he would be looking in a mirror.
 
Key difference. He wants the people in the building prosecuted, but not the people that caused it. Because he would be looking in a mirror.
So we need to somehow get to the root cause of every violent tragedy in the US? None of the people who have done any of this stuff bear any personal responsibility? If you figure out how to overcome impulse control, all the more power to you. I lost a really good job due in large part to the IN Republican mafia, but I have not gone after any of these folks because, thankfully, I am not a freaking crazy person.
 
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Agree, we will have to disagree. MSM gave Joe and Harris a free pass from tough questions beyond what flavor of ice cream Joe likes, and blacked out the Hunter PC story and corroboration by a former business associate. In a close election, that was enough to do it.
Worse, the MSM supported Joe's claims that 50 former intelligence agents claimed proof of Russian propaganda.
When Bar come out and stated, on Mark Levin, that there is no proof of Russian propaganda, it was some how ignored.
 
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So we need to somehow get to the root cause of every violent tragedy in the US? None of the people who have done any of this stuff bear any personal responsibility? If you figure out how to overcome impulse control, all the more power to you. I lost a really good job due in large part to the IN Republican mafia, but I have not gone after any of these folks because, thankfully, I am not a freaking crazy person.

A rational person would say yes or are we only supposed to get to the root cause of some violent tragedies? Like many have said, lighting the match and then providing thoughts and prayers for the fire victims is abject shirking of responsibility. The people that went into the building knowing full well they weren't going on a tour need to be held responsible as do the people that fermented the mess.

Additionally, I had no problem with the Benghazi investigation. But, why are people being hypocrites now?
 
Worse, the MSM supported Joe's claims that 50 former intelligence agents claimed proof of Russian propaganda.
When Bar come out and stated, on Mark Levin, that there is no proof of Russian propaganda, it was some how ignored.

You quote the MSM as being fake and then talk about Mark Levin. Interesting take.

Barr became Trump's personal lawyer. Why do all of you not believe our intelligence agencies but believe a guy that spent four years dealing in "alternative facts"

 
A rational person would say yes or are we only supposed to get to the root cause of some violent tragedies? Like many have said, lighting the match and then providing thoughts and prayers for the fire victims is abject shirking of responsibility. The people that went into the building knowing full well they weren't going on a tour need to be held responsible as do the people that fermented the mess.

Additionally, I had no problem with the Benghazi investigation. But, why are people being hypocrites now?
Pretty much agree with your response. Here is another example of why this stuff really irks even reasonably intelligent people. I am working as a consultant on a legal case invoiving the Marriott Vacation Club. It's a long story, but when it changed to a points system it basically imho stole the fixed time share weeks from tens of thousands of people. It's a very elegant $3-4 billion white collar crime. Once we challenged this, in short order Marriott got a couple of state legislators in FL, where all the timeshare companies are domicled, to push through some changes to FL timeshare law that is going to make challenging this very difficult. When pressed, the guys who sponsored the legislation have admitted the really had no understanding of what they pushed through.

Upon doing some digging, these two guys and other FL legislators have pretty much been in Marriott's pocket for a long time. Now today, with much fanfare, Marriott comes out with its "values' based stand" on these campaign donations but apparently Marriott does not have any problem greasing these FL republican state legislators so it can continue to steal from its timeshare owners. This is why people like me find what's going on very difficult to tolerate. It's also a matter of public record, that the four Marriott execs who created this saw their comp triple in less than 18 months.
 
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Pretty much agree with your response. Here is another example of why this stuff really irks even reasonably intelligent people. I am working as a consultant on a legal case invoiving the Marriott Vacation Club. It's a long story, but when it changed to a points system it basically imho stole the fixed time share weeks from tens of thousands of people. It's a very elegant $3-4 billion white collar crime. Once we challenged this, in short order Marriott got a couple of state legislators in FL, where all the timeshare companies are domicled, to push through some changes to FL timeshare law that is going to make challenging this very difficult. When pressed, the guys who sponsored the legislation have admitted the really had no understanding of what they pushed through.

Upon doing some digging, these two guys and other FL legislators have pretty much been in Marriott's pocket for a long time. Now today, with much fanfare, Marriott comes out with its "values' based stand" on these campaign donations but apparently Marriott does not have any problem greasing these FL republican state legislators so it can continue to steal from its timeshare owners. This is why people like me find what's going on very difficult to tolerate. It's also a matter of public record, that the four Marriott execs who created this saw their comp triple in less than 18 months.

Tony, when you realize 95% (or more) of all politicians are crooked, it all makes sense.

I really don't think that Trump and his sycophants wanted a revolution, but his media, his social media influencers, and the politicians as well as himself, saw this as a money making opportunity.

Trump collected (I think) over $300M in donations due to the election nonsense from average Americans of which mostly all of it went directly to his PAC. Ted Cruz, Rubio and others from Congress were doing fundraising through all of this. One of the new Qanon reps in the HOR was sending out text messages during the capitol incident to raise money. Sydney Powell was taking donations to her personal account.

Before any of you come back and do whatabouts, the same holds for the Dems. Smart people don't take low paying jobs in government without using it as a way to make money.
 
Tony, when you realize 95% (or more) of all politicians are crooked, it all makes sense.

I really don't think that Trump and his sycophants wanted a revolution, but his media, his social media influencers, and the politicians as well as himself, saw this as a money making opportunity.

Trump collected (I think) over $300M in donations due to the election nonsense from average Americans of which mostly all of it went directly to his PAC. Ted Cruz, Rubio and others from Congress were doing fundraising through all of this. One of the new Qanon reps in the HOR was sending out text messages during the capitol incident to raise money. Sydney Powell was taking donations to her personal account.

Before any of you come back and do whatabouts, the same holds for the Dems. Smart people don't take low paying jobs in government without using it as a way to make money.
And this is why you have not seen a single CV-related drug approved from a small biotech company. OWS has given billions to Fortune 50 companies yet OWS' FDA representative, Janet Woodcock, has gone on record lamenting that many of these companies don't have trials with large enough sample sizes to make the FDA's math on these trials as defensible. Why? Because running these trials is very $$$$. Why has OWS not thrown $$$$$ at these smaller trials? They certainly could! I think we all know why - because no one at OWS or the FDA has a career path going forward at these small companies.

What frosts me on here is that the echo chamber group on here acts like only the Trump-related politicians are the problem. Tell me how Maxine Waters, or any congressperson of either party amasses a $20 million + net worth on a $175,000 salary when you have to maintain two residences. Just don't preach to me on here that it's only the republicans that do this. That's just blind total bullsh*t. You know it and the echo chamber group knows it.
 
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And this is why you have not seen a single CV-related drug approved from a small biotech company. OWS has given billions to Fortune 50 companies yet OWS' FDA representative, Janet Woodcock, has gone on record lamenting that many of these companies don't have trials with large enough sample sizes to make the FDA's math on these trials as defensible. Why? Because running these trials is very $$$$. Why has OWS not thrown $$$$$ at these smaller trials? They certainly could! I think we all know why - because no one at OWS or the FDA has a career path going forward at these small companies.

What frosts me on here is that the echo chamber group on here acts like only the Trump-related politicians are the problem. Tell me how Maxine Waters, or any congressperson of either party amasses a $20 million + net worth on a $175,000 salary when you have to maintain two residences. Just don't preach to me on here that it's only the republicans that do this. That's just blind total bullsh*t. You know it and the echo chamber group knows it.

Maybe I am misreading, but I said that in my last paragraph.
 
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