Morrison is refuting that key details of the call were removed from the transcript (what Vindman claimed). Vindman claims that he tried to get the key items inserted into the transcript of the call, but those advances were rebuffed. If Vindman can produce an email saying that he was asking for those items to be inserted, that would help his position a lot.
On this impeachment thing
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Wouldn't it help to restore our confidence in the future of the human race if we knew that SqueakyClean's
five stone-cold rebuttals, here, would at least have a scant effect on the perceptions of the right-wing people on this board ??
If only.....
We are all here (hopefully) for the debate and not for the "I'm right, you're wrong" conclusion.
Therefore, they similarly are hoping that your eyes are being opened about the possible consequences of this country moving towards a more socialist regime.
As long as well all learn something new at the end of the day, that's probably a good thing.
A generous approach to board civility, indeed !
Eyes being opened to the possible ramifications of a FUTURE governing philosophy such as Socialism can be welcomed.
Attempting to open eyes , endlessly and repeatedly, to the existence of PAST demonstrable facts can be argued as being noticeably different, I believe.
yea - and if there was any meat on those bones they would be the rationale for impeachment instead of what someone heard from someone else about a phone call to the Ukraine.
Yes, please educate me on the jobs Trumps kids have gotten with outside companies or the billions they have collected for a PE firm since the election.
No they wouldn't be. Those are just some instances listed.
But the reality is that the ole saying "Your network is your net worth" applies here.
That concept doesn't change because your network is made up of powerful people.
It may not be fair, and can sometime be questionable -- but it doesn't always make it corrupt.
Trumps kids are profiting from their dad's power and position. Just like many of those before them.
Now if they were getting that profit by undermining US national security or in some other illegal manner that's one thing. But there is no evidence of that -- and quite frankly there isn't any evidence of it for Hunter either.
I do agree that we seem to be swimming in a sea of hypocrisy on both sides of these issues.
We have no clue as to what Obama did. Having CNN, MSNBC, NY Times, ABC, CBS, NBC, and the rest of the media allowed him protection. He may be a great guy, but he really wasn't much better than Carter or Grant. If any.
................. Wow
Well maybe if the great Fox News wasn't so busy spewing Trump's Kenyan birth certificate hoax for years they would have had the time and resources to do real journalism and find what Obama "really" did.....
Or just maybe there was no there there and people were just left to make up stuff and regurgitate it to people who were willing to believe anything....
“I have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they’re finding."
Donald Trump, re: his Hawaii investigators about Obama's birth certificate.
He spent years spewing non sense just like that and there was never any there there.
He then did it with Emails and HRC.
Then he just tried to do it with Biden and got caught... And yet here we are still the same people lapping up the lies they've been fed year after year.
or maybe they reported nothing, because there was no scandal to report. I think that is much easier to believe than some grand conspiracy amongst like 8 media giants including Fox news who busy reporting rubbish about tan suits, birth certificate etc.
Trump is a crappy guy by any measure, even without getting into his scandals as a President. That's why he makes news.
Trump is certainly not your career politican, but I like that in him. I'm tired of those who make a living in Washington and if I could would send everyone of them home.
I don't have a clue what you are saying here, nor what that has to do with you understanding the word "facts" in juxtaposition with the word "opinions."
Your condescension is intriguing given your postings.
Your goofball, uneducated opinion on Obama's standing among all past presidents is thoroughly destroyed by
rankings listed ALL OVER the publishing world, in the past few years. If you know what a SEARCH ENGINE is, you'll have no trouble accessing at least a couple dozen respected historians, political scientists and others, who place him solidly in the top 1/4 to 1/3.
But YOUR opinion is not totally at odds with others !!…... being RIGHT THERE with the overwhelming majority of those identifying as White Supremacists.
Your posts are full of the most incomprehensible misstatements of facts outside of the Trump Twitter account.
(List the clichés ! Here's your chance !!)
Your fall back position by posting anyone who supports Trump is uneducated, misinformed and are White Supremacists is neither informed nor has any original thought
Most people who are uneducated and misinformed aren't exactly the first ones to recognize originality in the first place. Don't take this stuff so seriously...…...BS is pretty much the stock and trade of everybody on here, from time to time.
Boiler up....I see we're pounding S. Ind...…..
That I can agree on. And for the record, I don't support Trump on everything.
His Tweets are over the top, mistake abandoning the Kurds and the constant bashing of the Fed isn't helpful. We don't want to follow other countries and have negative interest rates.
Boiler Up!
BSIT........very impressed by what appears to be a genuine re-set offer...
Takin' ya' up on it.....
44-17, last I saw...late in 1st half...….Nebr. @ noon, tomorrow ? not that easy....
His post is a microcosm of how they view race and he legitimately sees no racism in that post, to him it's just a fact, black men don't stay with their families, Obama did and that's laudable but nothing else Obama did, as he sees it, is worth credit, other than maybe bin Laden.
. being RIGHT THERE with the overwhelming majority of those identifying as White Supremacists.[/QUOTE]
F you for that statement. I can run a search engine and find many differing opinions. Just like you find that supports yours.
F you for that statement. I can run a search engine and find many differing opinions. Just like you find that supports yours.
Nope, I stated and always have that I thought he did a good job raising his kids. As for running a country, I consider his efforts minimal at best. And the racism word is overused and ineffective anymore because of that. As for black men staying with their families, some do and some don't. But I will state that having a father figure in the home, no matter the pigment of the skin, USUALLY means a much bettrer environment for the kids.
Oh....THEY who?
Twin: There are legitimate, universally respected presidential historians who have updated their presidential rankings for decades, as chief executives leave office. As well as other scholars and authors with requisite credibility.
YOU could always list ONE of the above-described people who has put Obama in the bottom HALF , couldn't you ??
Since YOU'VE put him 42nd out of 44 (Carter, Grant)….that should be ridiculously easy.
Waiting.
YOU could always list ONE of the above-described people who has put Obama in the bottom HALF , couldn't you ??
Since YOU'VE put him 42nd out of 44 (Carter, Grant)….that should be ridiculously easy.
Waiting.
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There are legitimate, universally respected presidential historians who have updated their presidential rankings for decades, as chief executives leave office. As well as other scholars and authors with requisite credibility.
YOU could always list ONE of the above-described people who has put Obama in the bottom HALF , couldn't you ??
Since YOU'VE put him 42nd out of 44 (Carter, Grant)….that should be ridiculously easy.
Waiting.[/QUOTE]
Once a prick always a prick, conversations as you call them starting out with F You? Yes and I will continue to post about anything I choose to in a civil manner vs being so angry about everything . Here is a solution for you, don't continually post like an ass or for that matter post at all and your problem is solved. Have a nice day!
There are legitimate, universally respected presidential historians who have updated their presidential rankings for decades, as chief executives leave office. As well as other scholars and authors with requisite credibility.
YOU could always list ONE of the above-described people who has put Obama in the bottom HALF , couldn't you ??
Since YOU'VE put him 42nd out of 44 (Carter, Grant)….that should be ridiculously easy.
Waiting.[/QUOTE]
I actually think Obama raised the stature of Carter and Grant. The most inept of all time.
I actually think Obama raised the stature of Carter and Grant. The most inept of all time.[/QUOTE]
Actually, I would vote Warren G. Harding as by far the most inept.
Carter wasn't inept but certainly fell into a series of situations for which there were no viable rapid solutions that anyone was going be capable of achieving at that particular time, but he appropriately bore and suffered the responsibility and consequences.
EDIT: Upon further consideration I think that I would move Andrew Johnson to the head of the inept pack, then Harding...
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Since YOU'VE put him 42nd out of 44 (Carter, Grant)….that should be ridiculously easy.
Waiting.[/QUOTE]
I actually think Obama raised the stature of Carter and Grant. The most inept of all time.[/QUOTE]
Tell us the name of ONE highly respected presidential historian that ranked Obama in the lower HALF of all presidents. This is my 2nd request. Still waiting.
Waiting.[/QUOTE]
I actually think Obama raised the stature of Carter and Grant. The most inept of all time.[/QUOTE]
Tell us the name of ONE highly respected presidential historian that ranked Obama in the lower HALF of all presidents. This is my 2nd request. Still waiting.
I actually think Obama raised the stature of Carter and Grant. The most inept of all time.[/QUOTE]
Tell us the name of ONE highly respected presidential historian that ranked Obama in the lower HALF of all presidents. This is my 2nd request. Still waiting.[/QUOTE]
Obama was a worthless POS , I don't need anyone to tell me that .
Tell us the name of ONE highly respected presidential historian that ranked Obama in the lower HALF of all presidents. This is my 2nd request. Still waiting.[/QUOTE]
Obama was a worthless POS , I don't need anyone to tell me that .[/QUOTE]
Delusional. Real world facts tell a completely different story. You’re embarrassing.
My daughters are enrolled Cherokee nationals, so I get it, really well.
What an ass, I have been involved in matters with the ultimate penalty and a job loss accompanied by embarrassment is a long ways from it.
For those who suggest that the Democratic controlled House has been so focused on impeachment issues that it has failed to engage in its other business, here is an Axios article that includes a letter from Nancy Pelosi to her colleagues addressing recently bills passed by the House with which the Senate has failed to bother to act.
