... Somebody please stop me from dreaming.
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It has to do with the saga of his academic ineligibility for the second semester of his senior season (2003-2004 season). He was given an F in one of his classes and it had to with not taking his final (I believe Booker said he had to go back home to visit a sick family member but the prof wouldn't give him any leniency. It was something like that.) Yeah, they would have been better with him and probably made the NCAA Tournament, but I don't think they would have won the national title or anything like that: not talented enough guard play at the 1 (a recurring theme for much of the program's history) and they weren't that great at the 4's, either.
WTF? This is just an awful post. You are trying to make up crap about Purdue that just isn't true. That was a hell-of-a-good team with great guards. Ken Lowe was on that team, and he was an excellent guard. Sorry, but it doesn't seem to fit with the current, self-pity party line of "we never get good guards because Keady and Painter don't like 'em". No need to make up sh1t to support this lie.It has to do with the saga of his academic ineligibility for the second semester of his senior season (2003-2004 season). He was given an F in one of his classes and it had to with not taking his final (I believe Booker said he had to go back home to visit a sick family member but the prof wouldn't give him any leniency. It was something like that.) Yeah, they would have been better with him and probably made the NCAA Tournament, but I don't think they would have won the national title or anything like that: not talented enough guard play at the 1 (a recurring theme for much of the program's history) and they weren't that great at the 4's, either.
Kenneth Lowe was also a great defender. DPOY in the B10 at least once.I love how you try to make a theme out of everything.
First off, the team was pretty darn good. They had just beat #2 Duke on a neutral court and later lost by 2 at a top 10 Oklahoma team. They also had 2 good guards in Lowe and Teague. If you remember, Lowe was not only a good player, but a great leader.
To count them out as not doing anything special, let alone making the tournament, that year is silly.
WTF? This is just an awful post. You are trying to make up crap about Purdue that just isn't true. That was a hell-of-a-good team with great guards. Ken Lowe was on that team, and he was an excellent guard. Sorry, but it doesn't seem to fit with the current, self-pity party line of "we never get good guards because Keady and Painter don't like 'em". No need to make up sh1t to support this lie.
That Booker team walloped #1 or #2 Duke in the Great Alaska Shoot out, and was ranked pretty high until Booker flunked out. How many "factory schools" does that happen at? Imagine that... our star player ineligible due to grades. Wouldn't happen at UK or Duke, or OSU or MSU for that matter. UNC might be the worst. Obviously, we need to get our academic requirements in line with these better schools (sarcasm).
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I find Mathboy to be one of the more reasonable long-time posters and generally a peacemaker on the board. He's called me out a few times for things that I post.Mathboy, you are delusional and come off as overly emotional. They played very well against Duke but it was one game. They were good but not great. Booker was still playing when they lost at Oklahoma and then to a very average SMU team at home. I'm putting you back on ignore because you don't bring much to the table other than overreactions and blind homerism.
Agree. Mathboy is hands down one of the more knowledgable posters on here. Calling him emotional and then ignoring him because he calls you out on a post you make is silly.I find Mathboy to be one of the more reasonable long-time posters and generally a peacemaker on the board. He's called me out a few times for things that I post.
Ignore? Really? Seems you don't handle very well opinions contrary to your own. But somehow I think he will survive.
What are the chances we end up with Biggie and Kostas?
What kind of leverage does Kostas have anyway? What high major program can he "play right away" anyway?
There's no way he's a 1 and done player anyway, so if he comes to Purdue he could be the first guy off the bench and backup the 3 and 4 spots and he can start next year when Biggie is likely gone.
I find Mathboy to be one of the more reasonable long-time posters and generally a peacemaker on the board. He's called me out a few times for things that I post.
Ignore? Really? Seems you don't handle very well opinions contrary to your own. But somehow I think he will survive.
Agree. Mathboy is hands down one of the more knowledgable posters on here. Calling him emotional and then ignoring him because he calls you out on a post you make is silly.
He's done to me in the past and was right to do at the time.
And that is your right to disagree. You just might be in the minority in your view and that is okay.I disagree. He's had these same type of reactions repeatedly over the last few years and I just don't think he has any substance to back up his opinions.
Agree. Mathboy is hands down one of the more knowledgable posters on here. Calling him emotional and then ignoring him because he calls you out on a post you make is silly.
He's done to me in the past and was right to do at the time.
has Kostas set any date when he will make a decision?
Well you certainly have sauce. Or is it you're on the sauce?I thought I was the most knowledgable poster here? (Lenniel)
Alright that is it. You have left me no choice that if we ever meet in person I have to buy you a beer. You've been "warned".Now that BBG leaves me scratching my head often.![]()
That might be arranged. As an occasional traveling man. Looking forward to next spring when I become a man of leisure!!!Alright that is it. You have left me no choice that if we ever meet in person I have to buy you a beer. You've been "warned".![]()
Nag, I usually enjoy reading your posts. You called me delusional, and I stand as guilty! However, I would use the term "optimistic" rather than "delusional", but that is just a matter of perspective.Mathboy, you are delusional and come off as overly emotional. They played very well against Duke but it was one game. They were good but not great. Booker was still playing when they lost at Oklahoma and then to a very average SMU team at home. I'm putting you back on ignore because you don't bring much to the table other than overreactions and blind homerism.
I too have never put anyone on ignore as I always want to challenge my thoughts...not that I always change my thoughts, but if I cannot defend them..then perhaps i should change them? My thoughts many times go to basketball in general what I consider advantages and disadvantages with different approaches and they were not formed the last few years...Nag, I usually enjoy reading your posts. You called me delusional, and I stand as guilty! However, I would use the term "optimistic" rather than "delusional", but that is just a matter of perspective.
I objected to the post, not you. I try not to call people names unless they truly exhibit that they are trolls. You certainly do not fit that description. I went back and reread my post and no where in it did I call you names. Sorry you need to put me on "Ignore". I guess it might be the best way to keep any conflicting facts or opinions from getting in your way. You are welcome to control your world anyway that suits you.
You see, I thought you post about the Booker/Ken Lowe team was off base, and sounded way too much like you were revising history to fit the current minority criticism of Painter and his guards. It struck my BS alarm, so I objected to your post, and not to you as a poster. Big difference.
By the way, I have never found a poster on this board that I put on "ingnore", and there have been some real stinkers over the years.
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Yeah sure but if you ignore everyone who makes emotional-long winded-inaccurate-overly biased in any given direction-insulting-blowhard posts your list will have maybe two people showing on it. Oh hell you can't see this one either!. Making no judgements either way guys...just having fun. Save ignore for trailer trolls.He has some of the same blindly-support-Purdue-at-all-costs-even-when-things-obviously-need-to-be-changed-or-improved views that you do so that doesn't surprise me. He's typically more extreme about it. I don't like some opinions contrary to my own but I don't mind if someone can actually make good points on their views without always resorting to insults as their rebuttal. I don't believe that he explains his viewpoints in a very mature or thought-out manner (emotional reactions would be a better description) and I generally just don't think he's very knowledgeable or accurate in his assessments about all things Purdue.
LOL! Now THAT is an over the top emotional response. Just because someone doesn't join the whine-fest and publicly demand that people be fired when a basketball team fails to reach a Final Four, you assign that label to them? Hyperbole, thy name is nagemj02.He has some of the same blindly-support-Purdue-at-all-costs-even-when-things-obviously-need-to-be-changed-or-improved views that you do so that doesn't surprise me.
Oops! I always get you and Mathboy confused. Your opinions are like photocopies of each other.I thought I was the most knowledgable poster here? (Lenniel)
Been gone from the board for awhile and thought I would come see what's been going on since I'm having new Shaw carpet put down today. Yep, 20 year guarantee not to buckle. I might be dead before it buckles. My wife hates buckles and points at them frequently....so I hate buckles too.
Anyway, this thread is like a tasty juicy burger, dripping of world changing opinions along with the extra dills. There is the addictive name-calling, ignore-threatening postings I remember fondly and cherished. I'm back. I missed you guys but you're all nuts....
but then again, aren't we all? We are Purdue fans. Perpetual Hope. So there! Buckle-up Boilers!
LOL! Now THAT is an over the top emotional response. Just because someone doesn't join the whine-fest and publicly demand that people be fired when a basketball team fails to reach a Final Four, you assign that label to them? Hyperbole, thy name is nagemj02.
Wow. This where the "off with his head crowd" loses me. If every school fired a coach every time he made a recruiting mistake, or a poor decision in a game, you would actually have gotten your chance to show what you can do as a D1 head coach because Duke just fired there 4000th coach. Kwrezevski (sp?) was the best ever, he lasted two weeks.Not really, it's more like an accurate description because you constantly defend Painter, even when it's obvious he's made some dumb decisions (in games, on the recruiting trail, etc.). You refuse to acknowledge that he should be held accountable for making bad decisions.
Just a piece of advice, you know how you called others overly emotional? Yeah that is exactly how you are coming across now.Not really, it's more like an accurate description because you constantly defend Painter, even when it's obvious he's made some dumb decisions (in games, on the recruiting trail, etc.). You refuse to acknowledge that he should be held accountable for making bad decisions.
Wow. This where the "off with his head crowd" loses me. If every school fired a coach every time he made a recruiting mistake, or a poor decision in a game, you would actually have gotten your chance to show what you can do as a D1 head coach because Duke just fired there 4000th coach. Kwrezevski (sp?) was the best ever, he lasted two weeks.
The clown up in Minnesota has earned a good firing. Painter has done what Purdue has always done. If that's not good enough for you well, OK, I get wanting to be in the FF all the time, but I suggest you become a Kentucky, Duke, NC, or Kansas fan. Is my attitude defeatist? I think it's realistic. College sports is not played on a level playing field. It is grossly tilted toward the team's willing and able to spend huge amounts of money and / or to compromise their academic standards the most for a very small subset of their student body. Can it change? Sure. But I'm not gonna waist my time trying to fire a guy doing a decent job on the off chance that the next one might be better. He might be worse. If only we had an example of that scenario (Hazel).
Just a piece of advice, you know how you called others overly emotional? Yeah that is exactly how you are coming across now.
And quite honestly you are wrong about 4sure. Just because he and others that post similarly to him aren't on here yelling for Painter to be fired after every little thing, it doesn't mean they aren't critical. They just look at it differently than that.
It's one thing to critique a coach, it's entirely another thing to take it to the extreme like so many of the "experts" on here do.
You guys can't handle him being criticized. I think that's the root cause of this rift.