who is Tim Waltz? Is he sleezy enough to fit in?

[Boiler Buck]

The law, which went into effect January 1, ........Republican lawmakers had failed to amend the bill so that it would apply only to girls' bathrooms.

I think Repubs tried to amend, but Dems voted it down.

 

[tjreese]

Exactly. They are not just "black Jobs".

true but that doesn't change speaking to an audience about their interest. We all were exposed in com114 to understand the targeted audience

 

[BNIBoiler]

true but that doesn't change speaking to an audience about their interest. We all were exposed in com114 to understand the targeted audience

The problem is that Chump was not speaking to a black audience. He said this crap about "black jobs" during the the debate with Biden. So, that was far from a targeted black audience.

 

[tjreese]

The problem is that Chump was not speaking to a black audience. He said this crap about "black jobs" during the the debate with Biden. So, that was far from a targeted black audience.

I was only aware of the other day. Certainly he should have been more verbose with Biden if time allowed and said why blacks are at bigger risks than poor whites since of the three sectors with under $30,000 pay 2 of the 3 were heavily dominated by blacks. All poor people are at risks, but the dominance of blacks that I previously listed in the sectors at risk should have been more clearly articulated. It isn't the first time and won't be the last that Trump does NOT express himself well. It is nice he was aware of the problem with illegals.

 

[Riveting]

Yeah it’s really too bad that Minnesota ranks highly in many economic categories and that school kids get free lunches. What a demon.

Again, it would be great if anyone could argue on policy but it’s clear some of you would hate Jesus for helping the needy.

Happy to argue that defunding police, delaying on protecting people and small businesses from rioters, and welcoming illegal aliens to Minn are all bad policies. Do you disagree?

 

[Riveting]

Any reason to believe that actually happened? Even once? Per your post, the language of the bill was to put them in all bathrooms used by people who menstruate. Seems like that wouldn't solely cover girl's bathrooms -- it would also cover bathrooms that are single person and therefore used by girls at times.

So-- is there any reason to believe that they were put in (or required to be put in) boy's only bathrooms? Even once?

It seems there is a reason because the bill's author was quoted as saying 'not all students who menstruate are female."

2024 will kick off with menstrual product requirement in boy and girl school bathrooms

A new law requiring Minnesota public schools to stock free menstrual products in bathrooms used by students in 4th through 12th grade goes into effect Jan. 1...

www.americanexperiment.org

 

[TheGunner]

So then you should be mad at republicans then, no? They failed to amend the bill.

In the meantime, that law impacts you in no way, shape or form. Are you against free lunches? Because if so, that counters your argument that you really care about what goes on in a bathroom if you don’t care that kids are starving. I get that some folks aren’t gonna like it. And I guess if you’re a single-issue voter and that’s the issue, then that seals the deal. But looking big picture, it’s really hard to argue with how well Minnesota is doing across the board as a whole.

Why would the Republicans be responsible for amending Walz bill? Are you saying it’s the liberal position that tampon machines must be in every restroom including boys? That would not surprise me, nor would it surprise me if that’s Walz position.

 

[Riveting]

So then you should be mad at republicans then, no? They failed to amend the bill.

In the meantime, that law impacts you in no way, shape or form. Are you against free lunches? Because if so, that counters your argument that you really care about what goes on in a bathroom if you don’t care that kids are starving. I get that some folks aren’t gonna like it. And I guess if you’re a single-issue voter and that’s the issue, then that seals the deal. But looking big picture, it’s really hard to argue with how well Minnesota is doing across the board as a whole.

I am against free lunches for kids from affluent families. Aren't you?

 

[Joetboiler]

So then you should be mad at republicans then, no? They failed to amend the bill.

In the meantime, that law impacts you in no way, shape or form. Are you against free lunches? Because if so, that counters your argument that you really care about what goes on in a bathroom if you don’t care that kids are starving. I get that some folks aren’t gonna like it. And I guess if you’re a single-issue voter and that’s the issue, then that seals the deal. But looking big picture, it’s really hard to argue with how well Minnesota is doing across the board as a whole.

If it’s doing so well how come they are #41 in net migration? Losing population. States doing “so well” attract people.

I also checked the numbers. 1/2 of public school students in Minnesota cannot read or do math at grade despite being a high spending Stats.

Additionally illegal immigrants have access to drivers licenses, can joint the subsidized state health insurance exchange, and are eligible for free college tuition. Who pays for the aforementioned 3 items?

Also under TW the State of MN ranks #1 in Covid fraud.

 

[TheGunner]

I am against free lunches for kids from affluent families. Aren't you?

Nah, liberals are for anything free…especially “free lunches” (hopefully you know the reference in economics…aka “there are no free lunches”)

 

[Joetboiler]

Happy to argue that defunding police, delaying on protecting people and small businesses from rioters, and welcoming illegal aliens to Minn are all bad policies. Do you disagree?

He waited 3 days to call in the Guard to protect the people of Minneapolis. People lost their businesses, livelihoods, and homes. Many of them minority. And those neighborhoods for the most part have not recovered.

Yeah Gov. Tim!!!

 

[Boiler Buck]

He waited 3 days to call in the Guard to protect the people of Minneapolis. People lost their businesses, livelihoods, and homes. Many of them minority. And those neighborhoods for the most part have not recovered.

Yeah Gov. Tim!!!

Mr & Mrs Walz might be the most wacko leftist extremist couple introduced to Americans......oh wait, wait... Kamalot on line 1.

 

[Joetboiler]

Nah, liberals are for anything free…especially “free lunches” (hopefully you know the reference in economics…aka “there are no free lunches”)

As a conservative I have to disagree. Federal school lunch is an excellent investment in our country. Hungry kids don’t pay attention and don’t learn well. The NSLP also supports the domestic agricultural industry. Kids eating school lunch and school breakfast also eat better and has benefits on long term health costs such as access to calcium, phosphorus and vitamin D. I also support universal free and hope to post-career work the legislation with my conservative Rep. With correct bureaucratic relief is a win. Universal free also eliminates much of the lobbyist and grifters because like taxes you eliminate a lot of rule writing. When the government complicate things you create inefficiency.

 

[TheGunner]

As a conservative I have to disagree. Federal school lunch is an excellent investment in our country. Hungry kids don’t pay attention and don’t learn well. The NSLP also supports the domestic agricultural industry. Kids eating school lunch and school breakfast also eat better and has benefits on long term health costs such as access to calcium, phosphorus and vitamin D. I also support universal free and hope to post-career work the legislation with my conservative Rep. With correct bureaucratic relief is a win. Universal free also eliminates much of the lobbyist and grifters because like taxes you eliminate a lot of rule writing. When the government complicate things you create inefficiency.

If you read and interpreted my post, the “free lunches” was in quotes and the explanation was in parentheses (aka economic “free lunches”).

There Ain’t No Such Thing as a Free Lunch: Meaning and Examples

"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" is an expression that speaks to the idea that everything ultimately has a cost and nothing is truly free.

www.investopedia.com

BTW, I am all for real free lunches for middle and low class kids. I’m not sure I’m aligned with free lunches for everyone (aka rich school age kids).

 

[bonefish1]

Any reason to believe that actually happened? Even once? Per your post, the language of the bill was to put them in all bathrooms used by people who menstruate. Seems like that wouldn't solely cover girl's bathrooms -- it would also cover bathrooms that are single person and therefore used by girls at times.

So-- is there any reason to believe that they were put in (or required to be put in) boy's only bathrooms? Even once?

I mean geez - if a bi-partisan bill that Walz signed off on, and that has zero real-world examples of misuse is one of the best inflection points for criticism of the guy? That would be some really weak sauce.

2024 will kick off with menstrual product requirement in boy and girl school bathrooms

A new law requiring Minnesota public schools to stock free menstrual products in bathrooms used by students in 4th through 12th grade goes into effect Jan. 1...

www.americanexperiment.org

 

[bonefish1]

Thank you for laying out numbers and putting your thoughts into this. And I’m certainly not going to change your mind.

These things don’t make him a “radical socialist “ as some are trying to paint him, though. That’s the kind of nonsense gibberish that invalidates arguments someone is trying to make. (I’m not saying you said it but others have).

This is the kind of discussion I was looking for on here. Thank you.

You asked for proof that Walz increased taxes in MN. I proved it. You lose this discussion.

 

[Joetboiler]

If you read and interpreted my post, the “free lunches” was in quotes and the explanation was in parentheses (aka economic “free lunches”).

There Ain’t No Such Thing as a Free Lunch: Meaning and Examples

"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch" is an expression that speaks to the idea that everything ultimately has a cost and nothing is truly free.

www.investopedia.com

BTW, I am all for real free lunches for middle and low class kids. I’m not sure I’m aligned with free lunches for everyone (aka rich school age kids).

Thing is upper income kids have a lower take rate than lower income kids. They have the money to go a la carte and bring lunch from home.

However the universal free reduces the bureaucratic costs of administration on FPL and all the auditing, review, and software for oversight.

Maybe someday you can DVR my testimony on C-SPAN. I’ll be sure to roll my eyes several times at dumb questions.

 

[bonefish1]

Alright, maybe a different approach. I’m just baffled at your consistent bashing of one of the smallest slivers of the population out there. And I freely admit to being biased here based on what I’ve already shared about my cousin.

But you act like this is some national crisis and I can assure you that it’s not. The bigger threat in the bathroom by far is a clogged toilet. The bigger threat in the bathroom by far is a straight man going into the women’s bathroom and hurting someone. The bigger threat in the bathroom by far are fights. But you never factor that into your discussions. Why not? I can appreciate that this is a big issue for you. But it’s not rooted in any kind of reality, and frankly it just looks like you’re picking on a group of people just to be a bully

You keep going to the 'threat'..
What you're failing to see or understand is the 'threat' to what's right and wrong. Tampons in boys bathroom, by any measure and viewed by any person with a level of clear thinking, is wrong.

Your cousin is still a (whatever he/she was biologically born), despite what she wants, believes or feels.

 

[Riveting]

Thing is upper income kids have a lower take rate than lower income kids. They have the money to go a la carte and bring lunch from home.

However the universal free reduces the bureaucratic costs of administration on FPL and all the auditing, review, and software for oversight.

Maybe someday you can DVR my testimony on C-SPAN. I’ll be sure to roll my eyes several times at dumb questions.

Good thought on the bureaucratic costs. I had not considered that.

 

[tjreese]

Mr & Mrs Walz might be the most wacko leftist extremist couple introduced to Americans......oh wait, wait... Kamalot on line 1.

I don't know how to take this. She never made this decision without some feedback. Most thought she would try to get someone a bit more moderate and yet she didn't. Why? Does she already believe she has the votes in the bag like Biden did due to some illegal votes and knowing the media will run interference for her leaving no fears of getting enough ballots to win or is this just the way she would manage this country? Don't you think that if this the way she wants to manage she would hide it "some" unless she believes she is already the winner...

 

[Riveting]

I don't know how to take this. She never made this decision without some feedback. Most thought she would try to get someone a bit more moderate and yet she didn't. Why? Does she already believe she has the votes in the bag like Biden did due to some illegal votes and knowing the media will run interference for her leaving no fears of getting enough ballots to win or is this just the way she would manage this country? Don't you think that if this the way she wants to manage she would hide it "some" unless she believes she is already the winner...

I heard a theory on Watters last night that seems plausible. That is, Obama did not want Harris to be the pick but Biden made that likely by endorsing her right away after the dem heavies forced him to sign out of the campaign. Obama then placed Holder in a position to pick the VP, with the plan to pick a really bad one (eg, Walz) so that Harris will be certain to lose. Then, in four years, Obama will be clear to arrange things like he wanted to all along.

 

[Joetboiler]

Good thought on the bureaucratic costs. I had not considered that.

There are a lot of strong elected conservative supporters of the NSLP and SBP program. The argument is with some of the nuances. Which universal free eliminates. And people who do these studies never consider the savings at state and local level which chew up budgets. But government projections are always flawed (see Obamacare).

 

[BNIBoiler]

I heard a theory on Watters last night that seems plausible. That is, Obama did not want Harris to be the pick but Biden made that likely by endorsing her right away after the dem heavies forced him to sign out of the campaign. Obama then placed Holder in a position to pick the VP, with the plan to pick a really bad one (eg, Walz) so that Harris will be certain to lose. Then, in four years, Obama will be clear to arrange things like he wanted to all along.

Great day in the morning!! And y’all wonder why I call that network Faux News. I’ve never heard of a network that spread conspiracy theory after another. Then you actually think anything that a fool like Jesse Watters says is plausible. And y’all have the nerve to beat me up for listening to urban radio.

 

[tjreese]

I heard a theory on Watters last night that seems plausible. That is, Obama did not want Harris to be the pick but Biden made that likely by endorsing her right away after the dem heavies forced him to sign out of the campaign. Obama then placed Holder in a position to pick the VP, with the plan to pick a really bad one (eg, Walz) so that Harris will be certain to lose. Then, in four years, Obama will be clear to arrange things like he wanted to all along.

I had not heard about Holder, but someone other than Joe was "fundamentally transforming" the country and it wasn't Kamala either. Joe did put an Obama appointee in the SCOTUS, but it was obvious Obama didn't want Kamala. He probably had a more discreet person in mind to make changes he desired. I'm not convinced she cannot win because there are too many opportunities for illegal voting to take place and not sure her approach wouldn't elevate division between people to a very concerning place.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Great day in the morning!! And y’all wonder why I call that network Faux News. I’ve never heard of a network that spread conspiracy theory after another. Then you actually think anything that a fool like Jesse Watters says is plausible. And y’all have the nerve to beat me up for listening to urban radio.

Yeah. Conspiracy theories like…

“the Democrats are gonna force Slow Joe off the ticket”….

and

“Hunter’s laptop was found at a computer repair shop and shows that The Big Guy was getting 10% kickbacks “

Like those ?

 

[Boiler Buck]

I don't know how to take this. She never made this decision without some feedback. Most thought she would try to get someone a bit more moderate and yet she didn't. Why? Does she already believe she has the votes in the bag like Biden did due to some illegal votes and knowing the media will run interference for her leaving no fears of getting enough ballots to win or is this just the way she would manage this country? Don't you think that if this the way she wants to manage she would hide it "some" unless she believes she is already the winner...

With the short window, they obviously have a game plan modeled after the Biden basement strategy.

Might work? I know Georgia fixed their voting system. Not sure PA, Wisc, Mich did anything relevant? I could be wrong, but I believe the same ballot harvesting and other flexible rules in some of those states still exist? So unless I missed it, which is possible ...they might be counting on blue wall there.

Trump is looking better out West in NV & AZ. He will need to hold that. That might be a big ask. Trump is a poor candidate & poor debater. Hopefully, he can maintain focus and improve his messaging.

As far as her going with Walz, I believe it is just another bad decision by Kamalot. But really, does the VP really matter anyway?

 

[tjreese]

With the short window, they obviously have a game plan modeled after the Biden basement strategy.

Might work? I know Georgia fixed their voting system. Not sure PA, Wisc, Mich did anything relevant? I could be wrong, but I believe the same ballot harvesting and other flexible rules in some of those states still exist? So unless I missed it, which is possible ...they might be counting on blue wall there.

Trump is looking better out West in NV & AZ. He will need to hold that. That might be a big ask. Trump is a poor candidate & poor debater. Hopefully, he can maintain focus and improve his messaging.

As far as her going with Walz, I believe it is just another bad decision by Kamalot. But really, does the VP really matter anyway?

Kamala and Trump revealed the type of people that represent their desires for the country and JD and tampontim are very different

 

[Boiler Buck]

Kamala and Trump revealed the type of people that represent their desires for the country and JD and tampontim are very different

Yep that's for sure.

Walz is Kamalot's soul mate, & reinforces who we already knew her to be by picking him.

 

[JBoiler23]

Kamala and Trump revealed the type of people that represent their desires for the country and JD and tampontim are very different

On this, we very much agree.

 

[Purdue95Grad]

So do you agree with neighbors snitching on neighbors?

I told you I thought it was stupid. Where is the disconnect here, Joe?

 

[Purdue95Grad]

I am against free lunches for kids from affluent families. Aren't you?

I honestly don’t care. Define affluent? Sounds like you just want to police everything. Kids get fed. End of story. And that bothers you somehow. Get a grip.

 

[bonefish1]

Yeah. Conspiracy theories like…

“the Democrats are gonna force Slow Joe off the ticket”….

and

“Hunter’s laptop was found at a computer repair shop and shows that The Big Guy was getting 10% kickbacks “

Like those ?

Everything the lefty lib dems disagree with is a 'conspiracy theory'.....until it's proven to be true. Then they just try to ignore it. "Move on, nothing to see here"

 

[bonefish1]

With the short window, they obviously have a game plan modeled after the Biden basement strategy.

Might work? I know Georgia fixed their voting system. Not sure PA, Wisc, Mich did anything relevant? I could be wrong, but I believe the same ballot harvesting and other flexible rules in some of those states still exist? So unless I missed it, which is possible ...they might be counting on blue wall there.

Trump is looking better out West in NV & AZ. He will need to hold that. That might be a big ask. Trump is a poor candidate & poor debater. Hopefully, he can maintain focus and improve his messaging.

As far as her going with Walz, I believe it is just another bad decision by Kamalot. But really, does the VP really matter anyway?

I really believe if Trump can be a more 'mature' candidate in the next 3 months (stay away from the name calling and those types of antics and focus on what she's accomplished, or more accurately, hasn't accomplished), then he'll win over a lot more undecideds just based on 3 issues: Economy, immigration, global stability.

 

[BNIBoiler]

I really believe if Trump can be a more 'mature' candidate in the next 3 months (stay away from the name calling and those types of antics and focus on what she's accomplished, or more accurately, hasn't accomplished), then he'll win over a lot more undecideds just based on 3 issues: Economy, immigration, global stability.

Dude, that ain't happenin' and you know it. Chump staying away from name callin', are you kidding me? Narcissists don't ever change.

 

[Telling The Truth]

2024 will kick off with menstrual product requirement in boy and girl school bathrooms

A new law requiring Minnesota public schools to stock free menstrual products in bathrooms used by students in 4th through 12th grade goes into effect Jan. 1...

www.americanexperiment.org

Well that's ridiculous. The legislature shouldn't have written it that way. When they noticed the needed clarifying language they should have added it. When they didn't add it Walz should have sent it back for modification.

Pretty sure that in the grand scheme of things it is not an important issue. If signing off on that is the worst anecdote about Walz?

 

[Telling The Truth]

I really believe if Trump can be a more 'mature' candidate in the next 3 months (stay away from the name calling and those types of antics and focus on what she's accomplished, or more accurately, hasn't accomplished), then he'll win over a lot more undecideds just based on 3 issues: Economy, immigration, global stability.

Trump gonna Trump.

If maturity is what the Republican base wanted they would have nominated Haley, DeSantis, or anyone but Trump. Instead, the Republican base voted for old, narcissist, and crazy con man in droves. Potential Republican voters would have greatly preferred something else, but the Republican base wants Trump.

 

[bonefish1]

Dude, that ain't happenin' and you know it. Chump staying away from name callin', are you kidding me? Narcissists don't ever change.

Trust me...I often wonder why his campaign team don't sit him down and have a tough love conversation. I agree, maybe he is that hard headed and doesn't want to care about changing.
I'll use the Bobby Knight analogy again: I didn't like Knight as a person, most people didn't, but you couldn't argue with his success as a coach.

 

[bonefish1]

Well that's ridiculous. The legislature shouldn't have written it that way. When they noticed the needed clarifying language they should have added it. When they didn't add it Walz should have sent it back for modification.

Pretty sure that in the grand scheme of things it is not an important issue. If signing off on that is the worst anecdote about Walz?

I disagree. It's a very important issue, especially with the amount of attention men competing against women has gotten in the last year or 2, and even in the olympics.

I also believe that anyone but the far left libs (especially moderates) would look at that and agree that putting tampons in boys bathroom is ridiculous, and even extreme, but definitely radically liberal.

 

[Telling The Truth]

I heard a theory on Watters last night that seems plausible. That is, Obama did not want Harris to be the pick but Biden made that likely by endorsing her right away after the dem heavies forced him to sign out of the campaign. Obama then placed Holder in a position to pick the VP, with the plan to pick a really bad one (eg, Walz) so that Harris will be certain to lose. Then, in four years, Obama will be clear to arrange things like he wanted to all along.

I heard a theory that Trump installed himself as Republican nominee, even when the majority of the voters that lean Republican in the general election would have greatly preferred someone else.

I know - sounds far fetched! There's some craaaaazy theories of evidence out there - cannot imagine where people come up with this wacky stuff:

1. These whackadoodles are saying that Trump wasn't required to participate in Republican primary debates!
2. They also are saying that all Republican candidates were required to take a pledge to support the nominee, even if it were Trump in jail!
3. And here's the craziest one: Some of these conspiracy theorists are saying that Trump's daughter-in-law was inserted as the chair of the Republican Party!

 

[bonefish1]

Trump gonna Trump.

If maturity is what the Republican base wanted they would have nominated Haley, DeSantis, or anyone but Trump. Instead, the Republican base voted for old, narcissist, and crazy con man in droves. Potential Republican voters would have greatly preferred something else, but the Republican base wants Trump.

I know I used the word 'mature', but I wasn't implying Trump was immature. I think some of his tactics are immature. But an immature person wouldn't have all the bad actors around the globe cowering at the thought of how Trump would retaliate if they crossed a line he drew.
Those same bad actors are going to look at Harris and believe it's open season to do whatever they want, like we've seen them do under Biden.