I personally thought it was insulting that psu wore its practice duds during the game.
What happens to our program, if Walters does not end up getting let go this year?
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Probably more insulting to their practice squad, that likely puts up a better fight than our starting line up.
I said 5-6 and you named 2 of them, Jenkins is out of time. I agree on D Line, I wouldn’t keep any of the current started/rotation but hope to develop some guys for depth instead of starting over. The others I’d keep are Breedlove, Beasley, Grant. They are talented enough to have a good secondary just poorly coached and young. Green would be a question mark, he shows flashes of talent. There’s your 5-6.
agree. I think since we hired Walters the economics have changed enough we now can afford to get better coaches. I do think the facilities will be helpful in recruiting coaches and players.
The Brohm hire is what put us into the mess we're in right now. He said he was going to use Purdue as a stepping-stone to U of L and he did.
No, it’s not. The Walters hire is what put us into the mess we’re in.
There would have been no Walters hire if our previous carpetbagger coach had stayed.
I hate to break it to you, but Purdue Football is not a destination job for anyone who didn’t play at Purdue.
Schools have coaches leave all the time, it’s literally the AD’s job to replace them.
Right, but Louisville is a destination job. The Harvard of the Ohio River.
I didn't prove your point at all. I know Brohm was a QB at U of L. He told us that he was going there the day that we foolishly hired him.
No he didn’t.
And who would have been a better hire to put out the Haze Dumpster fire in 2016?
He got us to the btn championship game. He stayed 6 years. And the teams were fun to watch, especially the offense.
He had a chance to go to U of L after one year and turned it down.
And he drove a 2004 Accord.
Everyone knew Brohm ultimately wanted to end up back in Louisville with his family from the day he was hired. The fact that the AD didn't have any legitimate coaches on speed dial ready to interview is the real failure that's got us in this mess. Can't fault Brohm for the AD's ineptitude.
He owned a home in Louisville during the entire time he coached at WKU and Purdue. That's where he's living right now. He poached Purdue recruits and Purdue players after he quit. He now recruits against us to this day.
Brohm has no fault whatsoever in this mess. Even if you say he poached players from us or left the cupboard bare, in the portal era, the new head coach should have been a better talent evaluator. He's ride or die, mostly die, with Card even when this season is clearly lost and Card gone next year. Hopefully Walters is gone with him.
Brohm more than earned every cent we paid him to extinguish the Haze tire fire.
No, but what will be defined as failure under a new coach?
Some schools are going to be in the bottom third in any given year, and those schools are likely to be repeat bottom dwellers. Will the BTN get rid of the latter?
Yes, you don’t have to win every year but unless you are capable of bringing in and keeping a tv audience the B1G will have to show you the door. Unfortunately for us we are in the worst situation possible heading into those decisions. There is time to right the ship, but the potential for lost revenue from the coming super conference realignment should be creating action now. $9 million buyout or lose hundreds of millions starting in 2032 with the new tv contracts.
So we have until about 2030 in cfb or we get fired from the btn?
The leader in all-time btn hoops championships would be fired?
I don’t see us or any other B1G school being “fired”.
I COULD see the SEC and B1G merging, and then creating multiple tiers, with promotion and relegation, English Football style. Schools in the “Premier League” get the biggest shares of the media deal, with schools in lower divisions getting less.
Be relevant, or at least a worthy opponent for the teams with tv audience or all bets are off. The decoupling of football from other sports is the next step and there are few barriers, so our prestigious experience on the hardwood has no bearing on the future of football super conferences. At the end of the day, greed to maximize returns will result in somewhere between 30-40 teams remaining part of the big $$$ tv contracts (see professional sports). We are in a period of breaking apart traditions, reorganization around tv revenue and yes I think the clock is ticking for Purdue football.
I doubt that this happens. First of all, you need consensus, or at least a simple majority. I could see why Ohio St, Michigan, Penn State and USC might agree with it, but why would UCLA and Washington and Nebraska and Iowa and Minny and Mich St and Wisconsin and Illinois and Purdue and Rutgers and Maryland agree to it? They would be voluntarily demoting themselves.
Secondly, all of our heavyweights appear to be happy with the status quo. You never hear a word from Ohio State about unequal revenue sharing. I understand that FSU and Clemson are squealing about it in the ACC, but that’s because the their TV contract is so pitiful.
Not unusual for wealthy people to own homes in different places. His parents stayed in Louisville, and he seems very loyal to them and family - like many of us are.
Everybody recruits against us, and everybody raids our players. And presumably, we do the same.
Yeah we’re raiding Indiana State and Ball State recruits now.
I’m so confused when I hear people suggest we might get the same coach back next year. How could that even be? Is he not objectively the worst coach in Purdue history by winning %? This season we already double down on him. Does that mean next year it would be tripling down, or quadrupling down since it’s two ply times two?
If he is retained, that will be the first time in my life I have seen any sports team I’ve paid attention to in any league show increased commitment to the worst product they’ve ever produced while it’s sinking in free fall. It’s impossible to imagine any professional sports franchise making such a business decision. It’s also really hard to imagine any power conference football team doing this either, which just speaks to how screwed up the thinking must be if they retain him.
If he is retained, that will be the first time in my life I have seen any sports team I’ve paid attention to in any league show increased commitment to the worst product they’ve ever produced while it’s sinking in free fall. It’s impossible to imagine any professional sports franchise making such a business decision. It’s also really hard to imagine any power conference football team doing this either, which just speaks to how screwed up the thinking must be if they retain him.
Early in the season, @pboiler18 was insisting that Walters was worse than the Haze. I couldn’t go there, maybe because I subconsciously didn’t want to believe that could possibly be the case. But he might be right.
Cowboys? Are you referring to Mike McCarthy after his first season posting a 6–10 record during the weird COVID year? If so, that’s a much higher winning percentage than our current season, and it wasn’t the low mark in the entire Cowboys franchise history like this season is to us.
Also, Mike Norvell at FSU might be having an equally dreadful season this year, however, last year his FSU team went undefeated during the regular season. Still I see no comparison.
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I was just replying to your comment, "It’s impossible to imagine any professional sports franchise making such a business decision."
I was thinking in terms of expectations. Purdue cannot reasonably expect to be in the top third of the btn on a regular basis, if at all.
But the Cowboys, after all the usual tiresome hoopla, can expect to do well in the playoffs. After all the futility, topped by last year's first-round debacle, I would have expected a coaching change...but nope.
I hear you Riveting, but McCarthy’s at least had three winning seasons in a row and his winning percent with the Cowboys is over 60%.
Walters? 22% while posting a worse record than the previous year, each year at the helm.
I’m just trying to learn if there’s any precedent from any major program in any sport to keep an unproven coach who is sliding downhill and already the worst in their team’s decades-long history. And maybe more importantly, if we can even find an instance, how did that turn out for them in the following seasons? I’m guessing it’s gonna be really hard to find any comparison to this open-ended question.
Perhaps a better question is why is this even a question?
Walters? 22% while posting a worse record than the previous year, each year at the helm.
I’m just trying to learn if there’s any precedent from any major program in any sport to keep an unproven coach who is sliding downhill and already the worst in their team’s decades-long history. And maybe more importantly, if we can even find an instance, how did that turn out for them in the following seasons? I’m guessing it’s gonna be really hard to find any comparison to this open-ended question.
Perhaps a better question is why is this even a question?
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As a long-time sports fan, I think it is an interesting question.
When I get some time, I might look up Casey Stengel's record with the Mets, eliciting his famous quote, "This team has shown me ways to lose I didn't know existed."
The 'TD' pass within the bizarre second end zone line on Sat falls under that category.
Change is the only constant you can count on. No one saw players getting paid until 3 years ago either. The reality is that the B1G will do what it takes to survive the competition for the new tv contract. Big changes will be dictated by the tv executives who are floating the super conference stories to the press, and yes even noble Ohio State (not sure which OSU fans you know) would ditch Purdue, Indiana, Illinois, Nebraska, others in a heartbeat if it means a significant increase in funds to compete with the SEC.
