What happens to our program, if Walters does not end up getting let go this year?

[Riveting]

Good post. There is no doubt Purdue has invested in facilities. RA, the practice field, training/weight room, and locker rooms have all seen significant upgrades. All this means nothing if you don't invest in the right people to run the program.
The lightening in a bottle approach is successful at best 10% of the time. We had our one with Tiller, who in spite of successes at Wyoming was rather unknown.

It is pretty clear that on-the-job training does not work.

As far as yesterday's game went, I didn't watch. I did receive regular updates from my friends who are PSU fans who were clearly pissed off at the state of Purdue football. You know it is bad when opposing fans want the other coach fired.

If it wasnt for Keady's influence with Painter, just how bad would we have f*ck*d up that hire?

I personally thought it was insulting that psu wore its practice duds during the game.

 

[goboilers2]

I personally thought it was insulting that psu wore its practice duds during the game.

Probably more insulting to their practice squad, that likely puts up a better fight than our starting line up.

 

[POTFHBTFU]

That’s crazy talk. There’s Thieneman, Jenkins, and Heldt who have somewhat high level ability. In the secondary, you have upperclassmen Stevens and Green, both of whom are absolutely horrendous. Then the true frosh Bradford and Grant who may end up fine but they’re not right now. Sillah and Ojata both are zeroes. Yanni and Miller at LB? That’s NAIA stuff. And then you have not one good player on the DL. None. We have at best marginal talent, and they are being coached poorly, so we get our faces kicked in every week.

I said 5-6 and you named 2 of them, Jenkins is out of time. I agree on D Line, I wouldn’t keep any of the current started/rotation but hope to develop some guys for depth instead of starting over. The others I’d keep are Breedlove, Beasley, Grant. They are talented enough to have a good secondary just poorly coached and young. Green would be a question mark, he shows flashes of talent. There’s your 5-6.

 

[POTFHBTFU]

My biggest complaint towards Purdue is that they have aggressively and lavishly spent money for improvements to sports facilities but don't make corresponding investments in leadership for those teams.

Case in point, Ross Ade Stadium. Since 2002, Purdue has spent ($70M) for a new press box and stadium seating (in the 2000's) and then have just completed a $45.4M investment in the south end zone and other improvements around the stadium. If my figures are correct, Purdue has spent over $115M on Ross Ade alone since 2002.

But when it comes to hiring coaches, Purdue pulls its pockets inside out and states they can only afford young assistant coaches who have no head coach experience, and that on-the-job-training is the only way to go. They spin this with the hopes that they will find the next "lighting in a bottle" head coach.

My advice to the Purdue Athletic Department and the BoT: Cut back on your lavishly spending on sports facilities by 20-30 percent and direct that money toward strategic hires of experienced coaching staffs for all sports.

It is pretty damn stupid to renovate the football stadium into a gilded monstrosity but then cheaply hire inexperienced and unproven coaches. At best, that will only guarantee Purdue finishing in the bottom quarter of a very high-profile league.

agree. I think since we hired Walters the economics have changed enough we now can afford to get better coaches. I do think the facilities will be helpful in recruiting coaches and players.

 

[Quix0te]

The Brohm hire was a very good one, so I think they are capable of making a good hire.

The Brohm hire is what put us into the mess we're in right now. He said he was going to use Purdue as a stepping-stone to U of L and he did.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

The Brohm hire is what put us into the mess we're in right now.

No, it’s not. The Walters hire is what put us into the mess we’re in.

 

[Quix0te]

No, it’s not. The Walters hire is what put us into the mess we’re in.

There would have been no Walters hire if our previous carpetbagger coach had stayed.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

There would have been no Walters hire if our previous carpetbagger coach had stayed.

I hate to break it to you, but Purdue Football is not a destination job for anyone who didn’t play at Purdue.

Schools have coaches leave all the time, it’s literally the AD’s job to replace them.

 

[Quix0te]

I hate to break it to you, but Purdue Football is not a destination job for anyone who didn’t play at Purdue.

Right, but Louisville is a destination job. The Harvard of the Ohio River.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

Right, but Louisville is a destination job. The Harvard of the Ohio River.

You just proved my point. Guess who played there…

 

[Quix0te]

You just proved my point. Guess who played there…

I didn't prove your point at all. I know Brohm was a QB at U of L. He told us that he was going there the day that we foolishly hired him.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

I didn't prove your point at all. I know Brohm was a QB at U of L. He told us that he was going there the day that we foolishly hired him.

No he didn’t.

And who would have been a better hire to put out the Haze Dumpster fire in 2016?

 

[Riveting]

The Brohm hire is what put us into the mess we're in right now. He said he was going to use Purdue as a stepping-stone to U of L and he did.

He got us to the btn championship game. He stayed 6 years. And the teams were fun to watch, especially the offense.

He had a chance to go to U of L after one year and turned it down.

And he drove a 2004 Accord.

 

[mdclaxton]

There would have been no Walters hire if our previous carpetbagger coach had stayed.

Everyone knew Brohm ultimately wanted to end up back in Louisville with his family from the day he was hired. The fact that the AD didn't have any legitimate coaches on speed dial ready to interview is the real failure that's got us in this mess. Can't fault Brohm for the AD's ineptitude.

 

[Quix0te]

He had a chance to go to U of L after one year and turned it down.

He owned a home in Louisville during the entire time he coached at WKU and Purdue. That's where he's living right now. He poached Purdue recruits and Purdue players after he quit. He now recruits against us to this day.

 

[Quix0te]

Can't fault Brohm for the AD's ineptitude.

It's not one or the other. They're both culpable.

 

[mdclaxton]

It's not one or the other. They're both culpable.

Brohm has no fault whatsoever in this mess. Even if you say he poached players from us or left the cupboard bare, in the portal era, the new head coach should have been a better talent evaluator. He's ride or die, mostly die, with Card even when this season is clearly lost and Card gone next year. Hopefully Walters is gone with him.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

It's not one or the other. They're both culpable.

Brohm more than earned every cent we paid him to extinguish the Haze tire fire.

 

[New Pal Boiler]

He poached Purdue recruits and Purdue players after he quit. He now recruits against us to this day.

This is called “college football”.

 

[Champ_Kind_whammy]

Interesting comment, but how do you define failure?

Finishing in the bottom third of the btn year after year? Bottom half?

The status quo is failure. Do you differ?

 

[Riveting]

The status quo is failure. Do you differ?

No, but what will be defined as failure under a new coach?

Some schools are going to be in the bottom third in any given year, and those schools are likely to be repeat bottom dwellers. Will the BTN get rid of the latter?