Yes and Tiller , but in today's $$$$$ it's hard to find those guys for the love of the game/Purdue. Unless you get a CMP or Brees.. type
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You think Brees would even come back to coach Purdue? His family seems to like living in San Diego area and NOLA. When you have that kind of money why throw away that quality of life for your family?
He’s 63. Not many schools looking to rebuild a program for a guy who will be 70 when his current recruits graduate. Tiller was asked to retire in his mid-60s because of negative recruiting due to his age. Not ideal to be starting from scratch then.
Yeah, but in the portal era, lots of kids are only worried about the next year, not 5 years from now.
This year was an anomaly since a lot of transfers followed their coach. I’m past years iu has leaned heavily on the transfer and it has not panned out for them. Might be different if they get a ton of NIL $.
No body is pretending that we are Alabama, but can we at least pretend that we are NIU?????
They've also failed to find a good one numerous times. If they found a good one that was willing to go to Bloomington, good for them. But their success rate is not very good.
THIS.
If you were Drew Brees, why would you? Doesn't need the money. Could only hurt his legacy with Purdue fans. Have to commit countless hours of kissing teenage butt and securing funding to keep the good players you do land. Spending extra long days during the season developing game plans for your next opponent and preparing your team with each game.
Or he could just sit back, enjoy any administrative type figurehead role he wants for Purdue while living where ever he wants and spending as much time as he wants with his wife and kids. All while remaining a darling to Purdue fans everywhere.
He may love Purdue and want the football team to succeed but I bet he loves his family and his current life much more.
This has yet to be determined, but I am inclined to agree. They went after a proven HC at a small school, much as we did with Tiller. I was surprised the hunt at Purdue went from the hype of Georgia's OC to a DC with a decent year with a mediocre program.
No, but he played for NIU head coach, Joe Novac and he played for the Ravens for five years.....
Not sure you even read what I wrote because your arguments have nothing to do with what I said. Your fascination with Cignetti’s age is interesting though. Pointing out that he’s only got 7 years left …… how many coaches has Purdue had that lasted more than 7 years in recent history? Aside from Tiller we have none and this guy will be no different. So how is having a rotating door of coaches with over half stinking up the joint less sustainable than having an older coach that can win and probably lasts longer? I’ll bet Cignetti lasts longer than Walters and wins more.
Brohm was here 6 years and everyone acts like he bolted after a brief tenure here.
I doubt cignetti lasts 7 years at iu he will be 70. Even sleepy Mike is only 66.
No way would I want Brees as the HC. Maybe as the OC or definitely a QB coach, but he has zero HC experience at any level.
They were, but the game has changed so much especially with NIL. Purdue will more than likely be a bottom feeder in football.
I look at Purdue and then I look at IU, Rutgers, Minnesota ,Iowa Northwestern and Wisconsin. None of those schools is really better than Purdue. Their facilities and salary structure is are about the same. I ask if Iowa can be successful, why can’t Purdue?
Why do the best Indiana high school offensive linemen flock to Iowa?
Why does Purdue constantly prioritize recruiting at skill positions over recruiting elite linemen? Notre Dame showed Purdue The meaning of what winning the trenches is all about. Purdue doesn’t really need 4/5 star QBs who are running for their lives or 20,000 4/5 star dbacks!
Purdue doesn’t need a passing attack that puts up 600 yards in a loss!
Why does northwestern win?
I believe the answer is part of the problem and solution. I don’t believe Purdue really knows what it wants to be! Does it want to be boring and win? Or does it want to be pass happy and flashy and look good in losing?
Do the fans really like playing tough teams? Or would they rather have wins?
Do the fans really want a passing oriented offense or would they rather have wins!
It seems from reading posts here, some fans here would rather have a flashy offense that loses against tough teams. Rather than a boring team that wins games against cream puffs.
And when you lose, you want to change the coach rather than changing the reasons why this team always keeps losing.
My thoughts are rather than changing the coach. You need to change your philosophy and start implementing a ball control offense, recruit those Indians linemen, and become a boring team with your best players in the trenches rather than at the skill positions.
Think about our recruiting. Our two best players in the past 5 years were walk-ons. We don’t really need 4/5 star QBs to be successful. What we truly need is more quality players in the trenches.
As I look to the future, the BIG 10 is not going to add 2 cream puffs to our league. Purdue’s conference schedule is going to get even harder!
You can’t have it both ways. If you love a flashy pass happy offense and tough non conference opponents then don’t complain having a losing record.
The problem is not the coach. The problem is the schedule and the wrong philosophy of what it takes to win in today’s BIG 10. People keep talking about Tiller’s success. He was successful because he initially installed an offense other big 10 teams did not have the right type of players to defend. Once other schools figured out tiller’s offense , his success disappeared.
If Purdue wants to enjoy any success against teams like usc and Oregon they need a new strategy, not a new coach. They also need to start paying coaches on actual performance and winning rather than potential!
Why do the best Indiana high school offensive linemen flock to Iowa?
Why does Purdue constantly prioritize recruiting at skill positions over recruiting elite linemen? Notre Dame showed Purdue The meaning of what winning the trenches is all about. Purdue doesn’t really need 4/5 star QBs who are running for their lives or 20,000 4/5 star dbacks!
Purdue doesn’t need a passing attack that puts up 600 yards in a loss!
Why does northwestern win?
I believe the answer is part of the problem and solution. I don’t believe Purdue really knows what it wants to be! Does it want to be boring and win? Or does it want to be pass happy and flashy and look good in losing?
Do the fans really like playing tough teams? Or would they rather have wins?
Do the fans really want a passing oriented offense or would they rather have wins!
It seems from reading posts here, some fans here would rather have a flashy offense that loses against tough teams. Rather than a boring team that wins games against cream puffs.
And when you lose, you want to change the coach rather than changing the reasons why this team always keeps losing.
My thoughts are rather than changing the coach. You need to change your philosophy and start implementing a ball control offense, recruit those Indians linemen, and become a boring team with your best players in the trenches rather than at the skill positions.
Think about our recruiting. Our two best players in the past 5 years were walk-ons. We don’t really need 4/5 star QBs to be successful. What we truly need is more quality players in the trenches.
As I look to the future, the BIG 10 is not going to add 2 cream puffs to our league. Purdue’s conference schedule is going to get even harder!
You can’t have it both ways. If you love a flashy pass happy offense and tough non conference opponents then don’t complain having a losing record.
The problem is not the coach. The problem is the schedule and the wrong philosophy of what it takes to win in today’s BIG 10. People keep talking about Tiller’s success. He was successful because he initially installed an offense other big 10 teams did not have the right type of players to defend. Once other schools figured out tiller’s offense , his success disappeared.
If Purdue wants to enjoy any success against teams like usc and Oregon they need a new strategy, not a new coach. They also need to start paying coaches on actual performance and winning rather than potential!
Ummm, Tiller’s teams had great O lines. I believe during one of Brady’s first championships he was being protected by 3 of them including Matt Light. I agree with prioritizing lines - so that your QB has time to find the best position to place the ball and you can create running gaps.
Nobody is prioritizing a high powered, flashy offense over wins. Those of us who advocate for this do so because we believe it’s historically proven to be the best chance at shaking up this major power conference. It works, and - everything else we’ve tried in decades has proven to be a dud including, unfortunately and predictably, our current situation. Not saying it’s a magic bullet, just that our most likely chance is finding a coach with a proven track record of winning with innovative passing. I actually thought that was a common feeling and that we were most certainly headed that direction before the surprise announcement of CRW.
I’d love to come back and eat crow.
Nobody is prioritizing a high powered, flashy offense over wins. Those of us who advocate for this do so because we believe it’s historically proven to be the best chance at shaking up this major power conference. It works, and - everything else we’ve tried in decades has proven to be a dud including, unfortunately and predictably, our current situation. Not saying it’s a magic bullet, just that our most likely chance is finding a coach with a proven track record of winning with innovative passing. I actually thought that was a common feeling and that we were most certainly headed that direction before the surprise announcement of CRW.
I’d love to come back and eat crow.
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I would take a chance on Jon Gruden, he needs us as much as we need him.
This is nonsensical. There are ten indiana OL on Purdue (mostly scholarship players) and one on Iowa who has yet to start. Need something new in terms of strategy? Walters has one of the most unique defense he’s the only guy in the country running it..
Also a LOT of NiL money was spent on OL this year and aside from DBs was probably our most successful position recruited. Just cut it out.
Coach Cig is exactly what I have been asking for since Coach Hep passed away.
1, Winning head coach wherever he has been. Never been fired. No losing seasons as a head coach.
2. Sees the job as a destination job.
3. Old school discipline, modern scheme principals.
Hiring coordinators without winning head coaching experience as a head coach is dangerous.Not every coordinator can learn to lead a P4 program. Kalen DeBoer is an exception. From IU Offensive coordinator to National Championship gane coach and now at Alabama. He has taken several of the staff with him along the way that he worked with at IU. They hit the ground running and have been successful.
I never understood why Purdue hired a coordinator from Illinois. There were far more successful coordinators available if that was the path they wanted to take. I thought Kevin Wilson might have been on your radar. Maybe he will be at some point. He knows how to put up points and coach QBs.
also look at Illinois, I wasn't in love w/ the hiring of Bret but I liked it because of his experience and being familiar w/ the BIG10. It's a good place to reboot your career and it looks like he's got them on a slow burn right now
both teams exhibited really good sideline to sideline tracking, on side note we did get a LB from Ill. but don't know much about him. Also was wondering what's up w/ Owen Davis?
I find it hilarious you keep tapping on this age thing. If he makes 70 he will have been at Purdue longer than our last 3 coaches … soon to be 4. He is a fantastic hire because he can win and you’re not gonna have to pay a buyout when you move to the next coach. With the transfer portal and NIL players aren’t thinking about if the coach will be there in 7 years …. They are focused on this year because next year could be spent anywhere.
starting from scratch is never ideal but winning fixes that … let that sink in for a min.
