You’re denying statistics to fit a narrative because you’re not smart. There’s a surprise. You won’t see videos of unarmed whites getting killed by police because that doesn’t advance a narrative of any kind for the Democrat media. The Democrat media also doesn’t care about white on white crime. Kind of like the Democrat media not caring about black on black crime. See a trend here? Division sells and you’ve been suckered.
Tucker Carlson gone from Faux News and Don Lemon gone from CNN
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You are one of those folks on this site that do not have the capability and maturity to debate topics without calling fellow forum members names.
You don't need any narrative to advance this issue if it is true. You don't need the media to post videos on Twitter, youtube, TikTok, or whatever. I know there are videos here and videos there but if unarmed whites are getting killed at the clip that y'all are saying there should be tons of videos. White parents of these victims aren't outraged about this? Parents don't need the media to express outrage due to the aforementioned video or social media outlets.
You’re impossible to debate with because you refuse to acknowledge truth and facts. And your name calling when it comes to Trump supporters is mature? Good to know that on top of being dumb and dishonest, you’re also hypocritical. A typical Democrat but you’re a great example of their base these days. A shameless liar obsessed with Fox News.
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let's be honest: a white person getting killed by the cops doesn't fit the MSM liberal narrative like a black person getting killed by the cops.
As for not caring, it's not that I don't care, but I've got other things I care about a lot more. In addition, the easiest way, whether you're black, white, brown or purple, to not get killed by the cops is to not do something that would require the attention of the cops in the first place. But, if you're a criminal, can't follow the rules or don't think societies laws apply to you, then the likelihood of a bad outcome with law enforcement increases substantially.
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Your first sentence is admitting that you’re a mindless slave to the narrative because the statistics prove that the “issue” you’re discussing is indeed not backed up by statistics. You don’t care though because you’ve been brainwashed by the media and the Democrats. Are you posting from some mental institution or are you running a parity account? There’s no way there are Americans associated with Purdue that can be this dumb, dishonest, and hypocritical.
And typically white parents aren’t given a platform to be outraged. They don’t have scummy lawyers like Ben Crump to stand up there and yell with them. Also, Democrats own all social media so something has to be spread by Democrats for it to go viral. Democrats have no interest in giving white parents the chance to go viral. It typically doesn’t advance a Democrat narrative.
I just told you, you don't need MSM to further the so-called narrative that you keep touting. Again if more unarmed whites are getting killed, where are all the civil lawsuits against the city and police? You don't need MSM for that.
It says “white parents”. Can you read? Yeah, because you are. Do you wake up every morning with the goal of being a lying hypocrite that will ignore facts to fit a Democrat narrative?
There have been civil lawsuits against cities and the police for white on white crime. I’ll post it again since you don’t understand the most basic of things, giving those kind of lawsuits attention does nothing to advance the Democrat MSM narrative. The public doesn’t hear about them.
maybe it's a cultural thing.
If a white multiple time violent felon gets killed by the cops, most white people probably are going to say "well, that guy should have learned his lesson the first few times"
But, when someone like George Floyd (a black multiple time violent felon) gets killed (for resisting and fighting the cops), then all hell breaks loose.
You also then get all the race hustlers like Jesse, Rev Al, Maxine Waters and much of the liberal MSM getting in front of every camera they possibly can to sell the vicitimhood, antipolice story.
Sounds like black folks care more about their people being extrajudiciously murdered by police than white folks do. Seems like a caucasian culture problem.
You do realize that like O'Rielly who was shit-canned from Fox, Tucker will start his own gig and make much more money. Lemon....he's done.
Do black folks not care that the guy had 5 prior felonies? He sounds like a menace to society and should have been behind bars, not out selling drugs and trying to pass fake bills.
Apparently, white folks don't care if so many unarmed white dudes are getting killed by police, and no outrage about it.
If they are criminals resisting arrest trying to escape, you’re right, I don’t care.
What about if it was a 14 year old white boy playing with a BB gun in a local park in an open carry state?
I don’t know. There’s a lot of different circumstances. For example, let’s say it’s dark outside and he pointed it at the officer after he was told to drop it. It would be extremely unfortunate for that to happen, but I can’t blame the officer.
Not if they're multiple time felons. Why do some people have so much trouble staying out of trouble. If you're such a bad person that being a criminal is just your lifestyle, then being taken out of society isn't a bad thing. That way, you have less of a chance of hurting innocent people.
How about in broad daylight, and the kid did not point the gun at the officers? Mainly because the cops didn’t give him a chance to as they killed him just seconds after they rolled up in the squad car just a few feet from the 14 year old white kid. No commands to drop the weapon.
Seems like now the criminals are the judge and jury as they continue to get away with crime.
Again....why do you take the side of a multiple time felon? Why do the cops not get the benefit of the doubt to be able to go home to their family at night? They're not the one committing a crime, the other guy was.
How many felonies should a person be allowed to commit before they're put away for life (in which case, they don't have a chance to be killed by the cops).
Spot on.
IMO body cams are the best friend of the honest, professional, 'heroic on a daily basis' officer. Dirtbags throw bullshit allegations at effective, honest officers all the time.
But, when there are outlier officers like Derek Chauvin (yes, they exist) that try to dish out street justice, that body camera exposes them. Those officers tarnish the perception of good officers and those vigilante officers fully deserve to be treated like the criminals they have become.
The debate on whether Chauvin murdered Floyd will rage on (Yes, I realize what the court says). But, even in that situation, what's Floyd's responsibility for his circumstance and outcome?
I mean, he's a multiple time felon, committing another crime, high on drugs, resisting arrest, etc.
I think that you look for clear violations of police department policies and standards, including but not limited to the force and deadly force policies.
Those policies exist for a very important reason - to give officers clear guidelines on what is reasonable given the circumstances. That is why excessive use of force cases are so difficult to prove; there has to be conclusive evidence that the officer could not have reasonably believed the force was necessary. Without those policies, everyone that is arrested would be less believable than the officer- the arrestee is getting charged and the officer has not been or they would not be an officer in the first place.
In Chauvin's case the evidence was as clear as humanly possible. Just because Floyd had a record does not give the police cause to use excessive force. When that excessive force causes death, whether intended or not, the crime is (2nd degree/unintentional) murder.
You will never get it……..because your core belief is that by committing a crime an individual opens themselves up to whatever abuse they may receive. They’ve given up some rights when they break the law. If you don’t want to risk getting beat by a police officer, don’t break the law, that’s your mantra.
Fortunately we are not an authoritarian state. Even a murderer who tries to evade police and resists arrest has the right not to be beaten beyond what force is needed to take him into custody. Suspected criminals have rights and are presumed innocent. That’s the most important part.
I agree with all this, but Chauvin didn't use force because Floyd had a record. Chauvin had to use force because Floyd was a huge, non-compliant threat who was resisting arrest and fighting the cops. He was also high on PCP, coke and meth which made him even more difficult to control or predict.
And you wonder why I call you a bleeding heart lefty lib.......
To your first paragraph, you're 100% correct. I have no sympathy for criminals, especially repeat offenders. When you sign up to be a law breaker, you're also signing up to accept whatever consequences come with that lifestyle. Sometimes breaking the law can have a bad outcome for the perp, like death. Too bad...You made that your choice.
Do you feel sorry for the guy who pulls a gun on the liquor store clerk but ends up getting shot dead by the other clerk he didn't see hiding? You probably do.
How many chances should a felon get? How many felonies does a person get to commit before they should no longer be a threat to society?
You see, that's one of the differences between conservatives and libs. Conservatives want people to take personal responsibility and be held accountable. Libs think every criminal is a victim of circumstance and shouldn't be held accountable.
Y'all don't like for me to bring up race. I don't care. Chauvin killed Floyd because he is a racist cowardly punk. Plain and simple. Floyd's life did not matter to him at all. If it did, Chauvin would have rendered aid soon after Floyd went into distress and passed out. Chauvin still had the knee on Floyd's neck even after the EMTs rolled up. The other 3 punk cops just stood around and didn't do crap. That is why they are going to prison also. These 4 ne'er do wells had Floyd in the car and then took him back out and murdered him. Once they got Floyd in the car that is when they should have taken him to the police station.
So, in Freddie Gray's case, whatever crime Freddie Gray committed you are ok with the cops purposely driving erratically that a handcuffed er thrown all over the place in the back of the police transporter?
So in the Nichols case in Memphis, TN, whatever the case Nichols committed, you are ok cops stopping him in the first place with no reason and then beating the crap out of him until he died? One of these cops kicked Nichols so hard that this fool is walking around limping and out of breath. The EMTs in this case got to the scene and absolutely did nothing. Nchols' life did not matter to these fools either.
