Laws tend to change when a) one party of another loses and b) because there was suspicion of fraud. OR new issues arise that were otherwise not thought of before, OR laws change to adjust with the changes to society/technology, etc.
The filibuster and the Democrats hypocrisy around the filibuster
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Yes, they are the only ones that did an audit, but long after the fact. And no, that is not what they found. If that's your knowledge of their audit, it just goes to show how inept the news you get really is.
Yes, in a recount, they found more votes for Biden, but they also found thousands and thousands of issues that needed to be investigated further to find out what was legit and what wasn't. Notably there were thousands of duplicate ballots as well as many other issues.
Why do you keep making appear that dems are too lazy to comply with any new voting laws?
Are dems really that lazy?
I hope it discourages dems from voting. It'll certainly confirm what you're implying about their laziness.
But again, if Dems were given a $100 bill if they showed up and voted in person with photo ID. they'd be boardin that church bus on Saturday, I guarantee it.
So, why aren't you harping on Delaware to change their laws? In your eyes, any strict voting laws are racist and designed to stop blacks from voting.
What’s wrong with voter ID? You need vax ID’s in certain areas and photo ID”s are required to board a plane and to enter government offices among other places as well. If the excuse is the poor can’t get an ID, I say the Republicans should propose using some of the Biden money to provide the poor LEGAL residents with photo ID’s and encourage each LEGAL resident to vote
A and B go hand in hand. It sometimes happens just because of A, but still, there is NO evidence whatsoever that these new laws will prevent people from voting. Nothing but your want to believe in it.
Man, I'll say it again, y'all are fixated on voter ID. I said this many many posts ago, it started out several years ago about voter ID. But the repubs moved on and now placed additional voting suppression laws that disenfranchise all dem voters such as drop boxes removal, removed mail in voting, absentee voting, drive by etc.
These laws don't prevent per se. They will discourage voters who may not have the opportunity to vote in person. Dems have been voting mail in for years. Or absentee for years. Blacks enjoyed voting on Sundays after church etc. A few hundred discouraged voters here a few there can make a difference in a candidate winning a state.
Sounds like the districts with long lines are in areas controlled by Democrats. Any correlation between food and gas shortages and voting machine shortages? Tic
Republicans aren’t against absentee voting. The key is verifying if they are legally registered. I’m sorry, there’s no excuse for anyone not being able to vote. The key point is making sure each voter is following the rules
Proof it discourages people? Are they that lazy?
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@BNIBoiler Ballot harvesting is THE biggest issue in voting outside of massive mail in voting that has no checks on it.
The power to create/change State election laws resides in the State Legislatures. In several states democratic governors and Secretary of States unconstitutionally sent mass mailings of ballots w/o voter initiated request citing “public health concerns.” These actions were found to exceed executive authority by State courts (e.g. PA, MI, WI) and State legislatures enacted voting integrity laws in response. These unconstitutional actions occurred in the 2020 election. Not 2016.
Do actually know what “mail in voting” is? It’s sending out ballots unsolicited. There are a couple of states that do operate mail voting but they have a very rigorous process to clean and ensure roll integrity. But I assume you know the States?
By chance did you read GA SB 202 yet. Do you now know that grandma can get a bottle of water? Did you see the statutory language says the prohibition is 150 feet from the polling place? If so, have you reconsidered your sources which have constantly told you different? #IndependentThought
Yes they are. Republican strategists analyze this stuff and found that the dems use absentee voting, mail in voting, early voting more than the repubs. Then if they restrict these methods. They hope that some will he discourage and won't. The repub strategists also know that low voter turn out favor the repubs. That's how the repubs took control of Congress in 2012.
Georgia lost those senators because Democrats promised voters money to vote for their candidates. That’s all Democrats do is give people stuff for their votes to remain in power.
It is not about being lazy. Some people work and get to the polls in person. So they vote alternatively.
How about the 2 repubs were horrible candidates, particularly Loeffler. Her debate performance against Warnock was pathetic.
In 2016 only CO, OR, and WA operated "mail-in voting." A system where ballots are sent to voters automatically and without a request. Utah added in 2018. This process was also only implemented after an intense audit of the State's voter rolls to ensure that only current and living legal voters receive a ballot, Please see info at non-partisan voter information non-profit BallotPedia:
https://ballotpedia.org/Analysis_of_absentee/mail-in_voting,_2016-2018
Therefore I award your statement "4 Pinocchios"
As I alluded to above several Democratic Governors (e.g. MI, NV, PA, WI) circumvented the State legislatures (the law- making body) and State election law and directed their SOS to mail out unsolicited ballots. If you believe in the rule of law and oppose authoritarian leaders you should agree that this action was wrong.
#ImJustABillOnCapitolHill
In Michigan, it Wasn’t uncommon for multiple ballots to be mailed to same address along to people no longer living there
I had a co-worker in DC metro tell me he got three. Not surprising given the transitory nature of the area. He was honest and tossed the other two. But he could have voted - no proof of who he was required. What I cant understand is this process (unless handled the way the 4 states did) is ripe w/integrity issues. Anybody regardless of who your candidate is or party affiliation should realize this process is not good.
In 2005 Jimmy Carter (freaking Jimmy Carter) headed a voter integrity commission after Bush v. Gore. Carter was selected as he was long a proponent of free-and-fair election throughout the globe:
Key to the Carter-Baker 2005 report's findings:
(1) increase voter ID requirements; (2) be leery of mail-in voting; (3) halt ballot harvesting; (4) maintain voter lists, in part to ensure dead people are promptly removed from them; (5) allow election observers to monitor ballot counting; and (6) make sure voting machines are working properly.
Specific to ballot harvesting:
“State and local jurisdictions should prohibit a person from handling absentee ballots other than the voter, an acknowledged family member, the U.S. Postal Service, or other legitimate shipper, or election officials,” .... “The practice in some states of allowing candidates or party workers to pick up and deliver absentee ballots should be eliminated.”
As for Voter ID, here is what Jimmy Carter (a guess now a racist?) said on Voter ID: https://www.dailycitizen.news/news/...cle_8c87793c-f62c-56b0-9210-0b6e1a5fdf2a.html
Think about it, from what we hear now uber-liberal Jimmy Carter is on the side of Bull Connor, George Wallace, and Jefferson Davis,
Carter had/has integrity that is sorely lacking in today’s Democratic Party
Oh really? You have a Republican actually saying this right? Not just a Dem suggesting that's the case.
Bullshit. With all of the time that people have to get to the polls, you can't tell me there isn't a time that everyone could make it.
It’s clearly all designed to prevent blacks from voting, except of course, the increasing number of blacks who vote Republican. Because we all know that blacks who vote Democrat and blacks who vote Republican live in totally different areas and it’s harder for blacks who vote democrat to comply with the rules.
Yes, really. Isn't that the job of political strategists to analyze voting patterns and suggest strategy to help win elections?
No it's not. A lot of times I can't make it or want to avoid long lines that I've been in before. Therefore, I prefer early voting. A lot of dems prefer early voting. Again, knowing that, early voting is another voting method that the repubs are trying to curtail in some countied.
No because BNI can't think for himself so he gets all his info from CNN.
And you guys call me race centric. I haven't even talked about blacks voting much in these discussions. I've been mainly talking about the dems in general that are disenfranchised by these laws. Heck, these laws will disenfranchised the few repubs black or white that like to vote early, Sundays, mail in, absentee etc.
1 day every 4 years.........it's pure laziness. Well, that and the church bus don't run on Saturdays.
If voting is important, you'll figure out a way to comply with the laws. If it's not, you won't.
Sorry brother, but every thing with you is about race.
All of your complaints about voter suppression are centered around blacks. You know....the whole 'souls to the polls" and the church bus don't run on Saturdays.
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