This game just shows how piss poor of a job Painter and his staff did in preparing for that game. I'm done with hearing how great of a basketball genius he is. He chokes every single time he's put in this position...
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For the guy that predicted a national championship, one would think you'd have known the answer to that question.I was the same way. What is unbelievable is we beat 2 F4 teams last year but the big question is were we that better at the beginning of season and regressed late in the season or did Nova and NC improve that much?
Not just preparing it’s his in game adjustments and player personnel that is mind boggling to meThis game just shows how piss poor of a job Painter and his staff did in preparing for that game. I'm done with hearing how great of a basketball genius he is. He chokes every single time he's put in this position...
Trust me, I would have loved to, as, I flat love watching that kid play and how he plays.Thanks for that, but I was hoping you'd say something else.
I know. I admit I drank the Kool Aid after being a CMP skeptic in years pastFor the guy that predicted a national championship, one would think you'd have known the answer to that question.
What in-game adjustments?Not just preparing it’s his in game adjustments and player personnel that is mind boggling to me
Love would dominate our guards.We beat that a** early in the season. That included Garcia in the lineup. I do agree about their guards
Same here. No more Kool-Aid for me. He either shows the results or others on here can stop hailing him as their god...I know. I admit I drank the Kool Aid after being a CMP skeptic in years past
time to un gimp one of themUnc not playing great defense, but their guards are huge. We purposely gimped ourselves with Thompson/Sasha for some reason.
Both. I think those teams improved and Purdue didn’t. Painters big changes were Morton getting more PT which helped, IT and SS continuing to get a lot of PT which hurt, Hunter starting helped and taking Newman and Furst out of the rotation, hurt.I was the same way. What is unbelievable is we beat 2 F4 teams last year but the big question is were we that better at the beginning of season and regressed late in the season or did Nova and NC improve that much?
Think Purdue’s regression had more to do with them being a mostly finished product at the start of the season. Almost completely intact from the season prior. They hit the ground running while other teams were still figuring out how to play together.Both. I think those teams improved and Purdue didn’t. Painters big changes were Morton getting more PT which helped, IT and SS continuing to get a lot of PT which hurt, Hunter starting helped and taking Newman and Furst out of the rotation, hurt.
I'm tired of Painter playing "experience" over talent. When was the last time that worked out for us?Both. I think those teams improved and Purdue didn’t. Painters big changes were Morton getting more PT which helped, IT and SS continuing to get a lot of PT which hurt, Hunter starting helped and taking Newman and Furst out of the rotation, hurt.
No, it had a lot to do with not giving enough time to talent (Furst, Morton, Newman) for them to get developed thru the season. Instead we played 2 guys with low ceilings (Sasha and IT) because they "practiced" well.Think Purdue’s regression had more to do with them being a mostly finished product at the start of the season. Almost completely intact from the season prior. They hit the ground running while other teams were still figuring out how to play together.
If you can play players and not get in trouble for it, might as well.The real problem is very clear with the final 4 teams. UNC, Duke, Kansas. The best players money can buy. Nova is the one exception, which is just a great coach that has his best player happening to come back as a super senior. Do I want Purdue paying players? No. I don't see much changing in the future where Painter stays and Purdue racks up many S16, and maybe one or 2 F4 by the time he retires. Really need a team peaking at the right time with Purdue recruits and we actually had that with carsen and cline. The only reason the F4 didn't happen then was a one in a million shot/play by virgina to save the game. Very difficult to get much better without selling you soul, or just like the rest, you have to get lucky, which Purdue just hasn't had in 40 years.
No, but there will likely be a national Purdue choke day that will happen every March (Date TBD).It’s not national peacock day anymore.
You guys realize that without Ivey, we’re not a tournament team. He was the best Purdue player since GRob and was forced to carry this team offensively which meant he had to take a lot of chances because the supporting cast was so bad offensively.I think it all went to poop after Underwood's comments. Ivey tried to do it all on offense, but didn't elevate his defense and showed poor BB IQ.
Which has been my point since Painter offered him.Not really...Smith is a great HS player, and, just a great basketball player for that matter...but, he has some physical limitations that just can't be overcome...watching this year's tournament...he would have no chance against the Houston's or Arkansa's or Texas Tech's, and, he would have struggled just as much as our guards did against Saint Peter's likely even for that matter.
He is a better all-around guard for sure, but, I worry now about the physical limitations...he will be fine in the B1G in general just because of the style of play and lack generally of premier guards, but, against some of the teams like we just saw make runs or the true best teams in the country...he will likely struggle.
Don't disagree, but he didn't show Friday and there's no way to sugar coat it.You guys realize that without Ivey, we’re not a tournament team. He was the best Purdue player since GRob and was forced to carry this team offensively which meant he had to take a lot of chances because the supporting cast was so bad offensively.
New Pal is doing it for him. Still riding Painters nuts.I find it interesting that I haven't seen Purdue85 defending Painter on that shitshow performance...
Same here. The BLM crap makes me dislike them even morePeacocks getting plucked right now. This is the team Kentucky and Boilers thought they were going to play and didn’t know what to do when they weren’t. Could be for the underdog today but already tired of the media hyped little school that has way over achieved. Also don’t care for the activist warmup hoodies … ruins sports for me.
I think UNC beats us by double digits. They just have more talent. A lot more.No-win situation as a Purdue fan...Saint Peter's wins, and, just more annoying that Purdue choked and would have in turn likely beat UNC again...UNC smokes them, and, just as frustrating that Purdue choked against them and somehow found a way to lose.
How so? By questioning the “Fire Painter” crowd on who their genius hire is ??New Pal is doing it for him. Still riding Painters nuts.
Yeah I saw that too. That has been done and over with for a while.Same here. The BLM crap makes me dislike them even more
He may very well someday, but not currently better than Carson Edwards as a college player. His ceiling is probably higher. But, in the NCAAs? Carson was better.You guys realize that without Ivey, we’re not a tournament team. He was the best Purdue player since GRob and was forced to carry this team offensively which meant he had to take a lot of chances because the supporting cast was so bad offensively.
This isn't a serious comment, is it? You're joking, right?I think it all went to poop after Underwood's comments. Ivey tried to do it all on offense, but didn't elevate his defense and showed poor BB IQ.
LOL. They only beat the 1 and 4 seeds on the way. Hardly a free pass.You're welcome Davis for the free pass to the FF.
He had a bad tourney game just like Grob did against Duke. I agree, bad time to have a bad game, which is why we needed a secondary scoring guard and didn’t have one.Don't disagree, but he didn't show Friday and there's no way to sugar coat it.
How's that look right now? They're rolling St Pete. Absolute route. NC could win by 35 if they didn't relax. We opened up a cakewalk to the FF.LOL. They only beat the 1 and 4 seeds on the way. Hardly a free pass.
It lead to his poor performance Friday. Not denying he had some great games after Illinois, but he had several where he tried to do too much....including Friday.This isn't a serious comment, is it? You're joking, right?
There is absolutely no way Purdue wins the number of games it does without Ivey. He was literally a one man show when Sasha, IT, and other guards decided not to show up for games on end.
Too bad his cousin who happens to be on CMP staff wrestled him which messed up his back before Duke. I still believe a 100% Big Dog could have beat DukeHe had a bad tourney game just like Grob did against Duke. I agree, bad time to have a bad game, which is why we needed a secondary scoring guard and didn’t have one.
You missed my point. NC made their own way to the FF by knocking out the 1 and 4 seeds. That’s not a “cakewalk” by anyones definition.How's that look right now? They're rolling St Pete. Absolute route. NC could win by 35 if they didn't relax. We opened up a cakewalk to the FF.
I think we still would have made the tournament, but we would have probably been close to the bubble. We wouldn't have got out of the first weekend, that is for sure. Watching UNC boatrace St. Peters really does make you wonder just how bad we were on Friday.You guys realize that without Ivey, we’re not a tournament team. He was the best Purdue player since GRob and was forced to carry this team offensively which meant he had to take a lot of chances because the supporting cast was so bad offensively.
Bullshit. Painter's shit game plan lead to that performance.It lead to his poor performance Friday. Not denying he had some great games after Illinois, but he had several where he tried to do too much....including Friday.