Sisley
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It kind of reminds me of when we were recruiting Colin Hartman. Wasn't he a Purdue lean for a long time and then switched to IU late and never recovered from multiple injuries? Maybe he has been an IU lean and doesn't see a good ending committing to IU.
Yeah, CJ Cox is in Mass about ten minutes from my house. Been meaning to get to a game, but way too busy right now.
His IU commitment will always be memorable to me because he sounded like he was joining a cult rather than committing to a basketball program. Made an emotional decision instead of an intelligent one.
In hindsight, I'm glad he ended up at Indiana. I'm sure Jon Octeus was too.
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Pearl? LOL. I mean, sure, he might be foolish enough to leave Auburn and go somewhere that will expect him to hang a banner within 2 seasons.
Personally, I think he should be black balled from the Big Ten for what he pulled at Iowa.
I love it. Right or wrong I've always had the impression that part of the state was solidly IU territory. I'd like to think there are some old timers in that gym who are absolutely disgusted to see Matt Painter in their territory. The type who like to wax poetic about Bobby over coffee at the filler station on Saturday morning.
Some iU posters were saying it is a bad look that Sisley's family was liking a post pointing to the fact that 0 IU coaches were attending his playoff game.
Last year (I think) Paul Lusk was filling in for CMP on the weekly radio show. When asked about recruiting, Lusk said that he has never seen a head coach do as many trips in person to see recruits play than CMP. That is usually something the assistants do more than the head coach. CMP is just a basketball junkie and probably enjoys the visits. My guess is that Woodson doesn't enjoy that aspect of head coaching as much.
My guess is Pearl will use them to get a nice raise out of Auburn. They’d be smarter to target a coach NOT in the SEC or B1G.
Pearl is 63…turning 64. IU would have to make him the highest paid coach in the B1G and that’d be tons of pressure to win right away. Not sure he will leave Auburn with what he’s built down there but who knows. Maybe Auburn pays him more and makes him second highest paid coach in country
FWIW- Years ago I went to a Tipton game and sat in one of the folding chairs on the baseline. I think maybe Tipton (Derek Elston) was playing Fort Wayne Bishop Luers with James Blackmon coaching Deshawn Thomas. Behind me was Dakich and his asst. Meyers. We talked a bit about DJ Bryd and Derek Elston who both had already committed to Purdue and IU respectively. Dakich essentially said he didn't know why he was here, because IU just wanted him to clean up the mess and he wasn't getting hired. He went even though he was pretty confident he wasn't getting the job.
Another view is that IU has shifted away from high school recruiting and will do everything with more known commodities through the portal and with NIL?
Yeah, what he did at Iowa in the Deon Thomas scandal is how he went from a lead recruiter on a Top 20 team to coaching at Southern Indiana. Then, it was huge news when he took Milwaukee to the Sweet 16 because the topic became will a Power school hire him again and he had to play Illinois. Of course, Tennessee hires him and he gets caught cheating.
He can definately coach. That's for sure.
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Good point. Why leave Auburn at this point? You have a brand new arena. A rabid fanbase (they actually show for basketball), prime location for recruiting Georgia, Florida, Alabama, etc., and that rabid fanbase cares far more about the success of the football team.
Exactly. And I know ppl say B1G has money but so does the SEC. Pearls contract is already 2nd most in B1G…and I’m sure he will get even more after this year with IU sniffing around.
I think that is certainly a way to look at it. Granted that’s like having cracks in your walls painted instead of fixing your foundation - short term and doesn’t fix anything. I mean that is basically what they have to do assuming Woodson is back and attrition they will see.
What I don’t know is the rules on recruiting visits. Believe you are limited to the number of on campus official visits and off campus visits. What I don’t know either is, does Painter showing up to watch a kid play without talking to him count? Would assume no since it is a dude watching basketball.
@Smokestack91 nailed it with “Painter is a basketball junkie”.
Never said I liked Pearl but the guy can coach and his teams play an aggressive up tempo style that I think would have success in the B1G
That would be one plus. I'm kind of sick of watching some of these Big Ten wrestling matches with a basketball. We know Cronin (sp?) doesn't play up tempo. Do Oregon, Washington and USC? I've watched about 30 seconds combined of those 3 teams this year.
I do NOT think it counts, but I'm certainly not the expert to be taken as a definitive and yes I understand the foundation part, but couldn't a foundation be that of portal use? I'm unsure with NIL that a team must take a more traditional college approach if that place wants to build as a professional team. I personally like Matt's approach, but I have no influence anywhere...
Curious on how the recruiting limits etc work. I’m sure you have to have one persons job be to track and manage.
As to building a team, I feel like with the portal you can get single or multi year guys. Perhaps you can find the balance somewhere. Arkansas is a great example of tons of portal guys and no cohesion. Alabama is tons of guys and cohesion.
You mean good for Purdue in the long run or were you being serious, you think he'd be good for IU? He would NOT be in the long run. Sure, he might even take them to the Final Four, and that is good, but the guy is a 63 year old snake oil salesman and slimy as can be. I don't think that's the direction IU is looking for, right? And older guy just brought in for a few years that will possibly turnaround the program... and then leave it with a disaster when he is ultimately fired for some sort of ethics complaint? People are always high on Beard and Pearl but both have FAR more baggage than they are worth. I agree with many that say Pearl would just use IU to get a raise at Auburn. No way he wants all the spotlight on him and his behavior at IU. He could get away with murder at Auburn and as long as he's making the tournament and ranked... the SEC doesn't care.
Maybe this is the tipping point for a commitment? Maybe, IU is already out of the equation.
probably easiest and maybe most effective to be selective for 1 or 2 max for specific needs and even then it too is not fool proof
Probably right. Also have to leverage how visits etc are counted when you go to AAU type events.
No face-to-face talk, no visit. There are limited weeks in the year that a rep of the college can f2f ... that is what burnt Frank
I've seen him more than a dozen times. He will be a very good college player and someone painter will covet. He reminds me of Vince edwards. Good athlete (not a freak) and very skilled.
It's been a number of years but I think I remember the story as this. He taped a phone conversation with Deon Thomas about how U of I was going to give him a Blazer (car, not a jacket) and turned in Illinois to the NCAA.
I can tell you that not long ago painter or any purdue coach would have 0 chance at a kid like sisley. Dad is a big fan of our little brother and the local area is very pro iu. Matt's success and the way he handles himself in hs games is noticed by everyone in southern indiana. I heard alot of complements this season from old iu faithful people. He's been to several of trents games this season and he's won over alot of people. Doesn't hurt that iu is a dumpster fire right now but matt deserves alot of credit. He's definitely turning southern indiana into a less hostile place for boiler alums and fans.
...and honesty over time brings a lot of respect to parents and players as he goes forward. He has been able to convince players that Matt/Purdue benefits if he gets the most out of every player and will do so my laying out what is needed and how that will be measured. Everyone knows where they and other players stand.
