season predictions- who we beat?
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Seven plus a pizza bowl win. ECU, Nevada, Maryland, IL, MINNI, NW, POTFH and Western MI!
Yea I just finished the bottle.
Yea I just finished the bottle.
EKU: W
Cinncy: L
Nevada: W
@ Maryland: L
@ Illinois: L
Iowa: L
@ Nebraska: L
Penn State: W
@ Minny: L
Northwestern: L
Wisconsin: L
@ IU: L
Overall: 3 - 9 but the team will be competitive...but being competitive with a 3-9 record should have been the goal in year 2 not year 4. If things go as well as they possibly could for the Boilers, I could see flipping the Maryland, Illinois, Minny, and IU games for a 7-5 record. That would mean all the offensive and defensive lineman are able to play the entire year with minimal injuries and the DB's aren't being relied on to hold on at the end's of games. Replogle will also have to have a near All-American season similar to that of Ryan Kerrigan's senior year (think of his game of domination against OSU that season).
What I see could totally happen is squeezing out a win against EKU and then getting blasted by Cinncy. If that happens, the game against Nevada will probably have less than 15k in the stands and Nevada doesn't have to deal with any sort of environment at all and the Wolfpack squeezes out a win. If that happens, Hazell should be fired at that point because there is zero reason to retain him at that point.
Cinncy: L
Nevada: W
@ Maryland: L
@ Illinois: L
Iowa: L
@ Nebraska: L
Penn State: W
@ Minny: L
Northwestern: L
Wisconsin: L
@ IU: L
Overall: 3 - 9 but the team will be competitive...but being competitive with a 3-9 record should have been the goal in year 2 not year 4. If things go as well as they possibly could for the Boilers, I could see flipping the Maryland, Illinois, Minny, and IU games for a 7-5 record. That would mean all the offensive and defensive lineman are able to play the entire year with minimal injuries and the DB's aren't being relied on to hold on at the end's of games. Replogle will also have to have a near All-American season similar to that of Ryan Kerrigan's senior year (think of his game of domination against OSU that season).
What I see could totally happen is squeezing out a win against EKU and then getting blasted by Cinncy. If that happens, the game against Nevada will probably have less than 15k in the stands and Nevada doesn't have to deal with any sort of environment at all and the Wolfpack squeezes out a win. If that happens, Hazell should be fired at that point because there is zero reason to retain him at that point.
If that happens, I think we all would enjoy the heaping amount of crow coming our way.
No idea on how many games Purdue will win, but I'd be shocked if it's over 4. The fewer the better because it's time for CDH to move along.
I am interested if anyone has an over/under take on the # of games before Hazell names a new starting QB. I'm going with 4. (You know it's going to happen, it happens every year...just a matter of when).
I am interested if anyone has an over/under take on the # of games before Hazell names a new starting QB. I'm going with 4. (You know it's going to happen, it happens every year...just a matter of when).
They bad. Might have been worse than us last year. I think with our shakeup and their new coach we are probably even. This is a must win for Hazell, moreso than the Cincy game IMO.
Biggest fear is we start 4-1 / 5-0, reality hits with the heart of the schedule, and a 5-7 / 6-6 record is used as justification to keep CDH...
Yes, this will be interesting. The schedule gets tougher as the season goes along. After so many losses you wonder if they will make a change at QB? Sadly, it won't make a difference though.
Heck, I am worried that if Purdue wins 4 games they will give the clown an contract extension.
They might, but like Hope's contract renewal any new contract would have a buyout reduction.
That said, if we let Hazell have year 5 we'd only be on the hook for 1 more.
I don't see 4 wins being enough. There will be some good candidates out there we could potentially hire who would be upgrades.
We didn't bring in a new AD to let Hazell slide with 4 wins this year.
Yes, Hazell has to be feeling the pressure BIG time this season. Then again Purdue made him a millionaire and he had to do little to get it.
I'm going to have to agree. I think we only beat EKU in a sloppy showing. It's going to be another long season.
I don't get the one win stuff. That would imply the talent was more to blame than the coaching. I think we have talent but aren't deep. If we stay healthy and the OC is a huge improvement, I think 4 is our floor and 6 is our ceiling. And I expect a nice step up from Blough this year and don't expect a QB controversy unless injuries come into play.
I am waiting until after the Cinn game to make any predictions, maybe kind of lame, but I gotta see what the team looks like this year, if the team looks good and wins against Cinn, I will say 6 wins
Quick answer. Assistant coaches. Some from a previous staff. Some who've been fired.
I think we have at least average talent at RB, QB, LB, and DL. I think the OL could gel particularly if it stays healthy. The DBs are a concern; it would be great if a couple young CBs surprise us.
Average talent with an improved scheme on both sides of the ball equals 4-6 wins.
Really? The head coach isn't responsible for the talent-level...and this is year 4. Most of the talent on the team is CDH's. And, if he can't bring in talent better than that of the guy he replaced...what does that tell you? Any other excuses you want to make for the coaching staff?
I agree. I'm ok with us looking a little rusty but still pulling away from EKU in the second half. The Cincy game will be telling.
The head coach is responsible. Where did I say he wasn't? But he's not the primary recruiter.
I'm not making excuses. I'm saying we have average talent in most aspects of the field, particularly in 1 deeps. Do you not agree with that? It's a team that should win 4-6 games on a soft schedule with proper coaching and schemes. You somehow see one game. I think Shoop being gone is worth 2-3 games by itself.
FWIW - I think 4 or less and DH is gone.
Our recruiting has gotten WORSE under the Haze, not better. I think we lost 5 of our 8 most talented players this offseason. I don't see our roster being better now than it was 3 years ago. So yeah, the talent is the issue.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think Els and Malone are appreciably better than Shoop and Hudson. Especially when The Haze is dictating 3 runs and a punt like he did at UW.
I think the jury is out on Els but we know Melvin is a huge upgrade. And frankly there's no way Malone is worse.
I never said our roster was better. I simply went position group by position group and saw what I consider at least average talent at most positions at the 1 deep. Do you agree or not? I think a coach should be expected to win 5-6 games with average talent and an easy schedule at minimum. So that's my expectation. I'm not sure how much clearer I can lay it out.
8-4 (Malone wins national assistant coach of the year).
EKU: W
Cincy: W
Nevada: W
@ Maryland: W
@ Illinois: L
Iowa: L
@ Nebraska: L
Penn State: W
@ Minny: W
Northwestern: W
Wisconsin: L
@ IU: W
EKU: W
Cincy: W
Nevada: W
@ Maryland: W
@ Illinois: L
Iowa: L
@ Nebraska: L
Penn State: W
@ Minny: W
Northwestern: W
Wisconsin: L
@ IU: W
For me it is kind of the point that I just want to see a team be competitive. I just want it to be a little fun to watch.
I think we win 2 games. So sad when you consider how easy the schedule is.
I think we win 2 games. So sad when you consider how easy the schedule is.
If we can beat Cinncy, and win @ Maryland and @ Minny...we should be able to handle Illinois. They are about as thin as Purdue is at major positions and they don't have as talented a group of RB's and QB's.
The thing is, if this team actually plays up to and exceeds it's abilities (like Iowa last season), there is a potential for 8 wins in this schedule. The scary thing is that past performance tells me the team is more likely a 3 win team, even with the easiest schedule in the B1G this season. Honestly, if you set the +/- at 5, I wouldn't be shy betting the under at all. I hope that I am wrong and I can eat my crow happily, but I am too reserved and out of kool-aid this season to think otherwise.
If by some miracle, this team went 9-3...this would probably be the least talented 9 win team in P5 history and Hazell would look, on paper, like he knows what he is doing. The 2017 schedule is exponentially harder with a damn hard non-conference slate with Louisville, Ohio, and @ Missouri. Either way, it isn't doing Hazell or a new coach any favors to building W's in to the program.
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I tend to agree. Purdue has nowhere but to go up in my opinion. The schedule has very winnable games. And teams can overlook Purdue. That is how upsets occur. Look at what happened with Nebraska last year.
One thing is certain. It is do or die for the coaching staff. They should not be thinking of the 2017 season now. Don't redshirt anyone. Let it all hang out now and take chances. Because a 4-win season may not save Hazel especially if a good coach becomes available in November.
