IMHO it depends on what happens next year.If he thinks he is not going to be in Painter's rotation and he has his degree he may not stay!
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Obviously opponent dependent (also has Basil to play with). If a team has a big center, don't think Painter would be hesitant to play Taylor.
I don't know how many of the 'recruiting experts' would agree with you. MSU seems to be the lead.
don't know what's on KS mind, but in the event he leaves, then I think we offer Bane to fill KS's position.
End of season stats...PJ's Assist to TO ratio was
2.8 assists 0.6 turnovers per game. That's pretty damned good.
I have looked at the 2017 class and I know everyone says they are loaded, but it seems to me that is based on four high-level players, not a large number of players - at least in Indiana. Once you get past Wilkes, Scruggs, Jackson, Jr. and Williams, who is everyone excited about? Or are we including the rest of the nation. Those four are certainly elite players, but there are only four to spread around and the bluebloods are all over those four. I love that we are all over them too, but does four make for a loaded class?
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If PJ is the starting PG next year, we're in the same situation we had this year.
Matthias is a SG, not a PG. he's a great passer but has trouble against the tough man D and press.
Teams will press the hell out of us again next year with similar results.
Carson has to be the PG and be able to make teams pay when they press or sag on D.
I have no inside scoop, but I can tell you that I've seen CMP in FW at Williams games more than he was at Bryson's or Swanigan's. CMP has obviously made him a high priority. Being 6'11 & from FW, I like our chances. There was also a report toward the end of the season that he was making a weekend visit to MSU. I think it was during our Maryland game. Anyhow, he was at the Purdue game that weekend. That was never really reported or made a big deal of, & maybe it's not, but I thought it was interesting.
Isn't that list just the 2017 class tho or are you stating facts for examples?
Bane would be the 2016 class.
True. Good catch. I guess my thoughts remain the same, other than they are less relevant to this thread.
If PJ plays primary minutes next year's problems wil look like this year's. Better hope CE gets the chance to start. I would go for Neal as he can play either guard position. I like Taylor but don't think he gets many minutes as normally biggie will swing to the 5.
What about Basil as a PG? If he has a 3 pt shot that is. His athleticism and fire could be just what we need.
I agree. I like PJ but think he is an average pg. I am really hoping that Edwards comes in and contributes right away.
Smotherman could handle Nunn or Blackmon for awhile I think??? Just asking.
Why doesn't any of the common taters know how to say "Swanigan" until 5 mins. to go in the game?
Interesting article for those who may not have seen it....
http://www.hammerandrails.com/2016/...sketball-recruiting-desmond-bane-visit-vs-msu
http://www.hammerandrails.com/2016/...sketball-recruiting-desmond-bane-visit-vs-msu
Many examples of teams using this strategy in the tourney this year: Brandon Ingram at Duke, Thomas Walkup at Stephen F Austin, Georges Niang at Iowa State, Denzel Valentine at MSU, Michael Gbinije at Syracuse, Dan Hamilton at UConn
But VE is way closer to running this style than Basil IMHO
But VE is way closer to running this style than Basil IMHO
I would love to see a transition offense of CE, Kendall, Vince, Basil, and JT next season. I think it would work great but highly doubt Matt allows it to happen.
I would too but why have we not seen it much?
After we started to become a deeper team in years past, and had bigs like JJ, I always thought we'd see it more.
Damn, Biggie and Edwards playing 40 minutes per game? There's no way that not only our team, but any team contending for anything, will NOT have a backup big getting solid minutes on their roster. Jacquil Taylor WILL GET MINUTES THIS SEASON, barring injury. He redshirted a year, and he sat out watching for a year. The kid has talent and will get his chance to have quality minutes.
Biggie may slide to the 5 if for a few minutes per game depending on the circumstance, but neither Biggie nor Haas will get more than 30 mpg.
You are literally the only person I've ever heard doubt Basils athletic ability... You're the wrong one here.
Unless you were at practices this year how would you or anyone else know whether he has improved in any area or not?
Coach K is playing 6 or 7 deep right now depending on foul trouble and made the sweet sixteen and has a good chance to go deeper. I don't get why Painter and Purdue fans want to play 9-11 deep when we really need our best players on the court making plays
He is playing 6 because of the large drop-off in quality due to injuries. He would not do it otherwise and he has said so often. The risk is that players are more susceptible to injury when they play a lot of minutes. And their legs do wear down over time. Players who come back from missing games for whatever reasons generally have stronger legs for a while. Any team could do what Coach K is doing, at least from a play-the-game perspective, but no coach really wants a 6 man rotation and a 7 is not highly desirable. Eight can work well. Purdue does not have the large drop-off in skills for its non-starters like Duke does.
Im going to say something that will probably offend many on here, Basil will be a better and more opportunistic defender next year than Davis was this year. He has shown the ability to shut down other players and with his athleticism we will not be lacking in that specific loss. I will also make a small prediction, Basil will become a much improved threat from 3pt range.
Boiler Up my Friends!
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If Basil does not work, let's try Haas. No PG has the height to match up with Haas. Basil is not a PG,
I agree that Taylor may not be a significant minutes player yet. But I think we will go smaller by moving Swannigan into the five when Haas comes out, then rest Swannigan when Haas comes back in. This would give Taylor spot duty when one of the two has foul problems. This will improve the team athleticism.
Man I hope you are right because that combination of abilities is our missing link.
As mentioned once, Basil Smotherman and Grant Weatherford are on scholarship and were redshirting this past season. Smotherman is already a proven commodity as a role player-type that has very good athleticism, so that's added. I'm not sure on Weatherford other than Painter believing he could be similar to Chris Kramer defensively (which I don't see happening with the rule changes a couple years ago plus Kramer was/is a better overall athlete).
Carsen Edwards (assuming he's healthy) is going to get plenty of minutes. You should be able to see that just from watching highlights or games of his. The eye-test doesn't always work with recruits but it's clear from his handles, jump-shot, quickness, and overall athleticism displayed in videos that he's going to have an impact as a freshman.
I know what you're saying, I've seen his highlight tapes, but again, it's high school, not college. I'm hopeful that CE will be our starting PG after the non-conference schedule ends, but I'm not going to bet on him starting based on a 3-5minute highlight of the best plays he's made all year in high school. It does look great, I can't wait because he is exactly what we needed this year based on the highlight video. He reminds me of Trey Burke, and if he is 75% as good as Trey Burke, then this Purdue team will be a national title contender once again, and an even better team than this year. But until then, PJ has shown great strides throughout his freshmen and sophomore years, and I'm counting on him making even more strides moving forward, hopefully pushing him into the upper echelon of PGs in the BIG.
Caleb being able to knock down 3s next year will be essential. Hopefully he makes a huge developmental jump like Hayes did. Caleb's the key to a deep tourney run, in my opinion..
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