Great view point and I respect ur opinions I actually do. I’m a mother who has been around the block a long time in this basketball circle and I can handle what some will say. Im ok but my son has been criticized and critique about his game for a long time nothing he or I haven’t encountered it’s how you respond to it is what makes you stronger. My son has gone through adversity in his 18 years of life especially when he broke his ankle back in 2015 and thought he would never play basketball again, but my didn’t cry or complain about what happen, but prayed to god about it and he got to rehab and worked his tail off to come back and that is what he did. This is small potatoes to some of the things he has endured in his young life. Right him off if some want to like many have in the past and now but I no who will continue to work to get better. He’s a great and humble kid who loves this game and quite frankly he don’t have to prove anything to anyone but only to himself who he is that is all he needs to do. Write him off that’s cool some others did and he proved them wrong.
Relax Nojel
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This,
"Gonna get a shooting coach to help him with his shot which will help with his FT shooting. "
makes me happy as a Boilermaker, but makes me even happier to know Nojel will move towards making a nice living playing a game he loves...after he pays the price to to get to where he wants to go. Basketball shares many things with life adn you always like for good things to happen to all people...but especially a person considered a good person that does the right things.
Be patient and remind yourself it is tough to get in the flow when there is so limited minutes, but also know...this is a great time to learn and be ready to make a mark on his own later on. You know... a lot of people think that a smart person will learn from his mistakes, but a really wise person will learn from the mistakes of others and thereby reduce to potential mistakes that could happen. This is a young year still, and sometimes it all comes together in a split second and a step is taken.
When he was being recruited and committed, the word tossed around by a lot of sources was just how nice of a kid Nojel was. He is still that, fresh out of high school playing against some of the best ball players in the world around his age. There is no question the demands are significantly greater than any high school. The players are more mature, stronger, faster, quicker adn much more skilled. and Tell him to keep his chin up...help him keep his chin up and understand the learning curve is different for different teams, positions and players. I'm not worried at all about Nojel being a fine contributor to Purdue as an athlete and as a person...and I'm estatic that he is going to work on his shooting so that he can become as good as he wants...
Was glad to see him get more involved. He made some good plays, just didn't finish them (and we know they were finish-able...).
Yes Mom, you are spot on. Living here in IL, I followed him in newspapers and watched him on TV thru his junior and senior season. He made Evanston the Great team they had last year. Seen a couple sit down interviews he did with Chicago Sports Media, man he was fun to listen too.
He will be fine, he will for sure turn some heads this year with great plays.
He will be fine, and BoilerNation is Happy he is here!!
LMAO. Funny post. And let's all be honest here. He did not play well and I was hollering for Matt to yank him. He has a good future. However let's not risk losing a game just to get a promising freshman extended PT. Really liked Eifert effort out there last night. And I was thinking if Pitino was on the sideline then we'd somehow found a way to lose that game...
Only thoughts on Nojel are when he played in the WUG the other teams would instantly double him hoping for the TO (thinking Lith here) and lately he's settled down enough not to let other teams take advantage of his youth. He's got a ways to go but he's got the effort necessary to make him be special.
Yeah, I still yelled at the tv when he missed that dunk. I'm trying to get better.
Yeah, I still yelled at the tv when he missed that dunk. I'm trying to get better.
You sir are the reason he works hard on his game that will prove you the naysayers wrong.
C'mon, people. We can't name one single player that we can claim played particularly well last night. Bad, BAD turnovers. Dumb fouls. Shooters missing shot they usually make. Bigs missing shots at the basket. The players would admit this. But overall, the team rebounding was better (in the 2nd half, at least) and the team defense had some fight in it. That's why they won.
Take what I say with a grain of salt. It's just my opinion. Doesn't mean others aren't right. Just my 2 cents.
Look at Michael Jordan or Steve Kerr. Their right shoulder protrudes forward and towards the center of their body so their shooting arm is more close to the center of their body (because I agree with you, you don't want to shoot it over your natural shoulder position). Then look at the arm alignment. These guys rarely missed left or right because of their shoulder -> elbow -> hand alignment and strong follow through in line with hand up. After some time, it's just a strong flick of muscle memory. It's either short or long, which become more touch and feel. They (MJ, Kerr, Mark Price) were also great free throw shooters because of it. always straight in line, just have good follow through and slight bend at the knees for touch. Were there great shooters that didn't do this? sure. Reggie Miller comes to mind. So, not saying it HAS to be this way. However, many great shooters follow these mechanics. The main thing as a shooter is you want to limit unwanted motion and anything that causes you (particularly your follow through) to shoot across your body either side at all, it brings in an element of missing right or left. If you can get this shooting form down, then it's a matter or squaring your shoulders and let er rip.
All of this. And please tell him to stay away from this board. There are a lot of frustrated people here who link their personal happiness to how he plays. When he doesn't play to their expectations, their personal misery somehow becomes his fault.
Just be grateful he didn't want to go to IU. This is like a picnic compared to their fanbase.
One thing to keep in mind with the negative posters (some take it farther than others) on this board (applies to other boards as well). Many are long time Purdue fans and want to see the team win and go far (hopefully FF). So, in a way, negative posters want something badly and are 'pressing'.
The negatives, after a loss, say things that they would likely never have the courage to say in front of the actual person they are talking about and often say things from a place of other life frustrations, etc. (I try not to do it, but - heck - I probably have. So, don't mistake this as a 'holier than thou' type post). It's hurtful nonetheless when it's about you. I know how much it would offend me if it were about one of my family members or loved ones. I probably would avoid the message boards entirely (that's just me personally).
Your son's commitment to Purdue has raised the teams overall ceiling in my opinion. Many of these same negative posters were praising and were/are truly grateful your son and you decided to commit to Purdue. Truly, they still feel that way, they just don't show it in these moments of frustration. In my opinion and the opinion of others, he is a higher caliber of guard than Purdue has had historically.
I can only speak for myself, but I'm really excited about Nojel's future. I think he has all the tools to excel at the collegiate level and beyond. He also seems like a kid that was raised well, so much respect to you and your parenting. Look forward to watching his development and helping Purdue win some more games.
I would say you speak for many if not most of us.
I wasn't trying to copy what a great shooter does. I've seen great shooters with bad form adn that form doesn't work for many. I may be agreeing with you...I don't know. Here is an old video of Dick Baumgartner and around the 37minutes and 50 seconds Dick talks about alignment.
If you have a few decades behind you its possible you recall that Dick was the shooting instructor that colleges and some professionals used. You may recall the old basektballs with a hand imprinted on the surface on how to hold a ball. Dick was very mechanical, but recognized as a shooting coach. Later his son Rick ran the camps. Rachel in the video was a girls basketball coach (JV) at Western ...I'm guessing sometime in the 90s.
Here is Ernie Hobbie the original shot doctor and at 3:45
you can see that he too has the elbow slightly out. Over the last 40 years I would say these two were some of the most if not the most recognized shooting coaches that actually taught players how to shoot and adjusted their forms to improve their shooting. No matter what...it is possible to find good shooters that don't shoot with good form...and Reggie Miller is one that comes to mind
I think you have to understand this is a message board about college hoops. We are all on here to discuss are favorite team for fun not make personal digs at your son. Nobody here expects Nojel to read this (i would hope no players will) and we all expect the Purdue coaching staff to make the best decisions. We are just discussing for fun what might change.
There will always be trolls or dumbasses just look on twitter at people sending hatemail to kids over basketball, this however is not that. Its not personal Even if I thought your sun was the worst thing to happen to Purdue basketball I would hope he succeeds in his life, and at the very least improve his basketball.
I believe from what I see, Nojel is doing exactly what Coach wants from a Freshman on a veteran team.
Painter has always wanted the young guys to get it going on Defense. The young man is doing it. As the season moves on he will see more minutes.
I don’t know what was expected at this stage.
Painter has always wanted the young guys to get it going on Defense. The young man is doing it. As the season moves on he will see more minutes.
I don’t know what was expected at this stage.
I'm not a naysayer. He is a freshman that played poorly on offense and I'm sure he'd be the first to admit it. When you are playing a great team like Louisville, you want your best players on the court at ALL times. You will agree with this when NE is a starter and upper classman and for some reason Coach has a promising freshman on the court that isn't helping the team.. it's all about team and winning. I have seen every single player on this team play poorly and have hollered to Matt to yank him. Every one has had games and there is nothing wrong with admitting the truth. You can't improve otherwise.
Simple stuff really:
1) Lower your center of gravity when bringing the ball up the court. (Reduces the chances of getting the ball stolen from the smaller defender that is usually on him)
2) Pass the ball off (always look to pass first) and use your size to prepare for the rebound. (Besides passing the ball and defending this is the category NE can contribute the most with his size on both ends and will lead to how he will score most of his point this year)
3) If in the flow of the offense drive the ball to the basket with your skill and size or post up your smaller defender if that is the play called. (I feel he doesn't need to take a shot outside 8 feet. With his size he should be getting put weak side rebounds/put backs all night)
Love his size and skill set but it can be used against him if matched up against a smaller PG who is quicker and has a lower enter of gravity.
The way to flip that script is to lower his own center of gravity on offense when the ball is in his hands in the half court.
In the open court use that size to see over the defense and pass the ball and then get in position to rebound and get put backs.
NE has great court vision, size, skill and basketball IQ......all of that will translate to being a stud on the court in the next few years, but this year just bring energy, defense, rebound and pass the ball.......that is all that is asked of him.
Excited he is a Boiler and love his passion to learn and get better and become an all around player.
Can't wait for CMP to run some plays for him posting him up down low on smaller guards or running him off the ball around screens to the weak side for slashing dunks.
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1) Lower your center of gravity when bringing the ball up the court. (Reduces the chances of getting the ball stolen from the smaller defender that is usually on him)
2) Pass the ball off (always look to pass first) and use your size to prepare for the rebound. (Besides passing the ball and defending this is the category NE can contribute the most with his size on both ends and will lead to how he will score most of his point this year)
3) If in the flow of the offense drive the ball to the basket with your skill and size or post up your smaller defender if that is the play called. (I feel he doesn't need to take a shot outside 8 feet. With his size he should be getting put weak side rebounds/put backs all night)
Love his size and skill set but it can be used against him if matched up against a smaller PG who is quicker and has a lower enter of gravity.
The way to flip that script is to lower his own center of gravity on offense when the ball is in his hands in the half court.
In the open court use that size to see over the defense and pass the ball and then get in position to rebound and get put backs.
NE has great court vision, size, skill and basketball IQ......all of that will translate to being a stud on the court in the next few years, but this year just bring energy, defense, rebound and pass the ball.......that is all that is asked of him.
Excited he is a Boiler and love his passion to learn and get better and become an all around player.
Can't wait for CMP to run some plays for him posting him up down low on smaller guards or running him off the ball around screens to the weak side for slashing dunks.
Boiler Up!
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Please know that pretty much everyone on this team has been critiqued by the “experts” on this board...”Haas should dunk more”, “PJs too short”, “Vince needs to be more aggressive”, “Dakota’s not athletic enough”, “Carsen takes too many bad shots” etc, etc...I wouldn’t be surprised to see someone criticize Haarms for being too tall at some point...please disregard all of it.
And also keep in mind that those you mention can probably barely bounce a basketball more than once without it hitting them in the face.
Good stuff I love the criticism keep them coming he gonna be just fine sir. Have a wonderful day.
I can't wait for NE to prove all these 'experts' wrong. Just remember that they are in a very small minority of the Purdue fanbase.
He is too tall. Can you imagine getting in an elevator and having to bend over until it reaches your floor? Seems unnatural to me.
His time is coming and you sir I no you are right that not everybody on this board are bad fans It’s always a few bad ones that show there ignorance to hate on a kid. 8 games into the real season and many many more to go.
Memo to poster. Eastern IS one of Purdue's best players. Carry on.
The great part about this is sometimes a person's critics can fuel somebody to go from good to elite at what they do. It's a perfectly healthy thing. It drives a person even more. I fully expect great things from your boy. Oh btw I don't care if he shoots the ball, shoot away
With all due respect, nearly all of the comments that I see pointing out issues with NE are actually very supportive of him and specifically indicate that the posters not only hope but readily expect him to be a huge contributor to the program, so I really don't see what you are awaiting to be proven wrong.
Haarms is too tall! When Purdue goes off site to play..finding a bed at the hotel desired is sometimes difficult and the rest of the team suffers a good nights sleep to accompany Haarms!
Just go re-read the threads during the game as an example let alone the things his very own mother is referencing and you will see the inference.
Not trying to be a smart ass, but I don't really understand what you are saying, or how it rebuts my comment.
If you are saying that there are some people who are "anti-NE", then there may be some instances shown (although I really don't recall any) but, if they do exist, they in no way repudiate anything in my post.
Sorry, I am a grad and a fan of Purdue and love it dearly but have no interest in becoming a rah-rah toady who is unwilling to express an honest view in, what I hope is, a courteous form.
Eastern is too talented to leave on the bench. You have to play him even if he makes freshmen mistakes. His style of play is something we desperately lack. An aggressive, smart, athletic playmaker who can finish around the rim. It's hard for him to score because we have 4 seniors and an outstanding sophomore who score most of our points. His will come in time, he needs to just worry about playing basketball and having fun. The dude is the real deal
I certainly would like to see him get more PT, but I no team can live with too many "freshman mistakes" particularly in close games. He generally seems to play through misplays pretty well.
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